battlegrounds sucks!!!

Strategic

I used to love BGs! It was the best and possibly only good part of MCOC recently.
But now with shorter timers and no nodes and the new stupid scoring system it's a matter of who has the biggest roster! No skill involved.

I'm thronebreaker with a decent roster and I'm F2P and been playing for 7 years and 100% act 7 so I do have some skill.
But this BGs week is just complete BS!!! No skill involved when you're up against P2W players with a all the possible R4s this game can offer against my mostly R2s and a bunch of R3s and 1 R4! Not much I can do to compete against the newest champs all awakened at R4!

I'm super pissed off and completely think about quitting playing BGs altogether. Wasting my time and energy on a win every 3 or 4 fights for nothing!

Also, haven't seen anyone complaining about how the "next round screen" animation taking like 5 seconds of your 15 seconds timer when it's your turn to place. Is it just me?
Also, Why do we need to waste 15 seconds on each post fight screen to see how bad we got our butts kicked and 15 seconds at the end of the match to show us that we lost for 15 seconds with no option to skip the screen???

This game has become completely frustrating and starting to think maybe it's time to retire completely...

Now to wait and see if this gets shut down, ignored or laughed at by trolls...

BitterSteel

So I do think there’s a few valid points here that can be answered by “it’s still a beta”, but a couple that are wrong.

Of the ones that can be answered by the fact it’s a beta, stuff like no nodes, shorter timers, 15 second post fight screens, point system etc. These can all change in the final product, and I for one would prefer kabam to try out a variety of combinations of nodes, timers, points etc to figure out what works best. Even if we have one we like as a community, it’s worth trying out different ways to see how it impacts our enjoyment.

Now, none of that means you shouldn’t give that feedback. It’s important so our voices are heard, but I don’t think you need to say “I’m quitting the game/BGs because the points system sucks”. That can change.

As for what is wrong, it’s the point on PTW players and how you’re losing 3 out of 4 matches.

Paying players will have an inherent advantage in every aspect of the game. Roster, items, rank ups, champions everything. Spenders get more stuff, which makes sense. While I appreciate it’s frustrating to see someone with 10 R4s and the rest R3s of all the newest and best champions, they spent money to get those and deserve that as an advantage.

What alternative is there? Put caps on who you can pick for your deck, X R3s allowed? That seems kinda sucky. And then what if someone FTP worked for that, but then couldn’t get their advantage. No, that doesn’t seem fair.

As it goes, BGs is probably one of the most FTP friendly parts of the game. You can easily maintain a high rating with few matches as long as your win ratio is high, it’s only based on your roster which you can work on as a FTP player, and remember that every other game mode is based on roster like AW, AQ and Arena, so spenders have an equal benefit for BGs as everywhere else. Overall it’s pretty FTP friendly as it goes.

As for losing too much, unfortunately that just means your rating is too high for your skill/roster level. BGs ratings is essentially a % chance for you to win, if you match someone the same rating you’ll likely have a 50% chance of winning. That’s the point.

Sometimes someone will be better than they’re rated and be on the way up, in which case they’ll have a higher chance of winning or someone will be on the way down and vice versa.

If you’re losing more often, then it means you’re on the way down and you’ll settle at a point where people match you and have a 50% chance of winning.

At that point, you’ll sometimes match with someone with a big roster who isn’t so skilled, or someone with a small roster who is more skilled.

It’s not that it’s about no skill, even with the shorter timers (though I agree I’d prefer longer ones, they’re more fun and they do mean skill is more important).

I hope you don’t think I’m laughing or shutting down, just addressing some of the points as I see it.