How the heck did we lose this Off-season War

We had 1 Defender kill more than the opponent
We finished War in less duration than the opponent
We Still lost

What the heck is going on with the calculations
@Kabam Miike

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TheBair123

That is super weird

TheParasite

@TheBair123 I think even War Results are based on RNG as the crystals. It seems like one

What if it is a bug and this affects the upcoming season @Kabam Miike

DanielRodriguez0716

What in the actual fatty is that @Kabam Miike or any kabam employee

Worknprogress

We had 1 Defender kill more than the opponent
We finished War in less duration than the opponent
We Still lost

What the heck is going on with the calculations
@Kabam Miike

Some of your defender kills didn't "count" bc they were after any attack bonuses had already been lost to that fight

Worknprogress

Actually, ABs are tied as well looking at it again.

TheBair123

We had 1 Defender kill more than the opponent
We finished War in less duration than the opponent
We Still lost

What the heck is going on with the calculations
@ Kabam Miike
Some of your defender kills didn't "count" bc they were after any attack bonuses had already been lost to that fight

Even then, their fight duration is lower, so they should’ve won

TheParasite

i know 1 didnt count because they gave 4 kos on rintrah boss, so it made 17-17 @Worknprogress
So we tied with points thats ok, but we had less fight duration than them and they won the war..
isnt it so silly on calculations.. even a kid can calculate things better

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SummonerNR

Fight Duration (lower is better) is indeed supposed to be the tie- breaker.

And even if they further calculate the flat duration time into the average time PER FIGHT or PER DEFENSIVE NODE (just in case other points were tied even though different amount of Explore %), before using that as the decider, it should still favor you.

Other team would have only had 1 more overall fight than yours, as evidence by both 100%, 50 attacker kills, and just that single excess fight that was 4+ attempts. That 1 extra fight in now way would overcome a 13% duration difference to make a “per fight” swing the other way.

TheParasite

the duration of getting a defender kill should be calculated as a whole, even if they fight 25 times on a single fight
how can they calculate things like this % wise,
does the RNG rule apply to this too
be practical on things mate
It is the incapability of the opponent(in this case) in the first place to finish late. So how does that come into consideration. @SummonerNR

TheParasite

we have won wars in the past with few points difference in fight duration. this is not the first time we are getting tie. It is absolutely busted here

TheParasite

everything gets affected by this one mistake, we are pushed to next lower tier next war, we are losing the loyalty. Now we will be matched with some lower tier opponents which give 3-4 less war rating for the upcoming war. It also affects the war rating which we will be starting at for the next season

This is a serious issue to be addressed. It affects the whole system

SummonerNR

the duration of getting a defender kill should be calculated as a whole, even if they fight 25 times on a single fight
how can they calculate things like this % wise,
does the RNG rule apply to this too
be practical on things mate
It is the incapability of the opponent(in this case) in the first place to finish late. So how does that come into consideration. @SummonerNR

(Re-emphasizing, this would in now way have affected your situation, which indeed seems to be the wrong result)
But saying just in cases where less fights, or less defenders, are done. You would essentially get to count ZERO time for passing over an empty defensive node, or skipping whole paths and thus not fighting.

Thus I was hypothesizing that the Fight Duration might be converted into time per-fight or per-node before being used as the tie-breaker, Just so that you don’t get to SKIP having fight time for fights that aren’t even done (skipped or empty).

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(edit) Just as a very extreme example, if opponents not places a Boss on the whole map. You could explore and finish it with a Total Fight Duration time of say 180 seconds (full 3 min, single fight).
And if you only placed Boss and 1 other guard on whole map, if opponents did full 3 min on boss and quick 20 seconds on guard. By duration along 180 beats 200, but on average it would be 180 vs 100.

TheParasite

is that fair pointing system???

SummonerNR

(“only placed” a boss)

TheParasite

that is so hilarious (on edit)

TheParasite

if we raise a ticket on this... those ppl respond after 6-7 days answering that
"if it was a current situation they have records, since the war has ended a week back, they dont have data to backtrack things and cannot help"

that is how the ticket response is

DanielRodriguez0716

I don’t see how it is not a bug.

TheParasite

@DanielRodriguez0716 the system knows to calculate the time duration and display on the status report. but the system doesnt know to operate on what it says. Bug just before the start of the new season

Ghostboytjie

Their gaming chairs were just better.

InsaneSkull

LoL. Even interns can code better than these kabam employees. Silly bugs

TheParasite

@Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Jax
don't bother me to be rude, you guys are banning the players who use ban with the terms of service. First you need to ban the support team for using bots to send automated messages which is no where related to the question.

Can anyone from Kabam take something serious about this situation.
We lost war ratings from the war we won -16 points, we are pushed to the lower tier this war. matchmaking doesnt give enough war rating when played on lower tier. even if we win this match we will receive 15 points
Which is a total loss of (current rating - 16 + 15) 1 war rating from these two wars

If your calculations were right then we could have got a solid (current rating + 15 + 15) total of 30 war rating if we win this current war.

Because of your miscalculation in war results we lost a solid 29-30 war rating which totally affects the upcoming season start. Even a single war rating decides the match making and ranking of the season. Please take a look into it ASAP

Firstly ban the support team for using bots to send automated messages. And find a solution for this

TheParasite

Their gaming chairs were just better.

just their gaming chairs were better

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Angryneeson52

Did some of your defenders get 4 kills etc because only 3 count to points other then that it looks super wierd tbh

That wouldn’t matter. Points for the war were tied and they had lower fight time.

TheParasite

@booscka2536 yes they had 1 extra KO on boss (4) that will make the defender kills 17-17 equal. So our points were tied. But that is not the case here. See the fight duration, that is the deciding factor when the points are tied. We finished war faster than them and still they won

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Snizzbar

Is it their lower war rating that was the tiebreaker? If they started on 2052 and you started on 2063 then does the system think they did better if it was a tie?

Havanaknight

First off, congrats for being the first person to ever have a legit complaint about war score.

Grasping at straws, but what rewards did you get? Is it possible this is a visual bug but the rewards were consistent with a win (yes, highly unlikely, just thinking outside the box).

TheParasite

First off, congrats for being the first person to ever have a legit complaint about war score.

Grasping at straws, but what rewards did you get? Is it possible this is a visual bug but the rewards were consistent with a win (yes, highly unlikely, just thinking outside the box).

War DEFEAT