Outraged at my BAD LUCK??

Dear Kabam,
I played this candy rift event so far everyday, one day I got 2 mil Gold and one day sig stones. Rest of the days only candies. Please tell me how is this fair? When one person can do same fights and get 3 Awakening gems, 6* shards and all cool stuff in the mix.

Meanwhile me, a player who played the same quest and same difficulty gets candies to buy some candy shards, just to pull 5* (3 of them only). While others duping knull and pulling other cool champs as 6*.

Please tell me how is that fair, Why should I be motivated to be pissed on by my bad luck( call that RNG, Call that algorithm). Why ??? Why can't we have definite rewards. makes me angry, makes me sad. What the hell is this system. Atleast last time we could have selected a path of our choice on last day. But that too isnt possible this time.

Where do I go with my this outburst? Am I overreacting? Is this fair in any sense?

Comments

CoatHang3r

The game isn’t at a place where it wants to (or can) give all players all those rewards in a monthly quest. You would not have had the chance at any of the extra items from a monthly side quest if it wasn’t offered at a low probability.

It is fair because everyone had the same chance.

And finally this is a game founded on gacha mechanics, make peace with gacha or be forever frustrated by the game.

unknown

This content has been removed.

BestAnand

The game isn’t at a place where it wants to (or can) give all players all those rewards in a monthly quest. You would not have had the chance at any of the extra items from a monthly side quest if it wasn’t offered at a low probability.

It is fair because everyone had the same chance.

And finally this is a game founded on gacha mechanics, make peace with gacha or be forever frustrated by the game.

You really think everyone has same odds? Really? You don't think there's any algorithm interfering that?
If it was all LUCK, some people would have had all trash champs and some would have had all Awesome champs .. it's possibility if its completely random, yet we all eventually get champs that will get us through content. Think about it, how is somehow everyone has a balanced roster?

GroundedWisdom

The game isn’t at a place where it wants to (or can) give all players all those rewards in a monthly quest. You would not have had the chance at any of the extra items from a monthly side quest if it wasn’t offered at a low probability.

It is fair because everyone had the same chance.

And finally this is a game founded on gacha mechanics, make peace with gacha or be forever frustrated by the game.

The game isn’t at a place where it wants to (or can) give all players all those rewards in a monthly quest. You would not have had the chance at any of the extra items from a monthly side quest if it wasn’t offered at a low probability.

It is fair because everyone had the same chance.

And finally this is a game founded on gacha mechanics, make peace with gacha or be forever frustrated by the game.
You really think everyone has same odds? Really? You don't think there's any algorithm interfering that?
If it was all LUCK, some people would have had all trash champs and some would have had all Awesome champs .. it's possibility if its completely random, yet we all eventually get champs that will get us through content. Think about it, how is somehow everyone has a balanced roster?

No. There is no sabotage algorithm.

Snakep

Yeah, luck has to go in this game. Rifts are luck driven, need to go. Cavalier crystals need luck to get a six star, get rid of them. Mythic crystals? Out of here. Grandmaster and premium hero crystals? Bye. Then in a six star basics you have to have luck to pull a good champion so let’s axe them as well. Same for five, four, and three star crystals. After we get rid of all of those then this game will be fair and fun for all!

DNA3000

You really think everyone has same odds? Really? You don't think there's any algorithm interfering that?
If it was all LUCK, some people would have had all trash champs and some would have had all Awesome champs .. it's possibility if its completely random, yet we all eventually get champs that will get us through content. Think about it, how is somehow everyone has a balanced roster?

Everyone doesn't have a balanced roster. My first five 6* champs were Loki, Nebula, Sabretooth, Gladiator Hulk, and Cap WWI (more or less in that order). Does that look like your roster?

The vast majority of players get champs that will get them through content because first of all most champs are perfectly fine for most content. People whine about not having the god tier champs, but the vast majority of players just pull what they pull and they use what they pull. My first 5* was OG Captain Marvel, and back in the day I used her for her poison immunity. Because that's what I had. If you just want to play the game and get through most content, at least to a moderate level of difficulty, you don't need great champs, you just need champs.

And second of all, eventually players pull so many champs that random chance will cause them to pull most of all the champs that exist. At some point you aren't going into the forest, you're going out of the forest. Once you have more than half of all the champs that exist you aren't so much pulling new champs as you are filling in the holes in your roster. Eventually everyone has only a small number of holes. The holes can be different, but what they have is mostly the same. Because it has to be.

And third, while we all get (mostly) random champs, we don't all rank mostly random champs. There are strong external influences that encourage players to rank the same champs - Doom, Ghost, Herc - so that while everyone's roster might look different in total, their top champs are much more homogenous. So if you just look at the top of player's rosters and not their entire roster, you might think everyone was pulling the same champs. But that isn't the case, rather it is everyone is ranking the same champs when they pull them. But everyone pulls them at different times. And some not at all: we don't all have Herc, we don't all have Kitty, we don't all have Doom.

The longer you play, the more likely you will eventually get any one particular champ, because while they keep making new ones there is still only a finite number of them. But the only players with relatively identical rosters are the players who basically have everything. If you compare the rosters of two players with about half the total number of champs in a particular rarity, say about one hundred of them, you'll find their rosters are substantially different. There will be some overlap, but a lot of differences.

Chatterofforums

Dear Kabam,
I played this candy rift event so far everyday, one day I got 2 mil Gold and one day sig stones. Rest of the days only candies. Please tell me how is this fair? When one person can do same fights and get 3 Awakening gems, 6* shards and all cool stuff in the mix.

Meanwhile me, a player who played the same quest and same difficulty gets candies to buy some candy shards, just to pull 5* (3 of them only). While others duping knull and pulling other cool champs as 6*.

Please tell me how is that fair, Why should I be motivated to be pissed on by my bad luck( call that RNG, Call that algorithm). Why ??? Why can't we have definite rewards. makes me angry, makes me sad. What the hell is this system. Atleast last time we could have selected a path of our choice on last day. But that too isnt possible this time.

Where do I go with my this outburst? Am I overreacting? Is this fair in any sense?

You luck is not bad, it is slightly below average. Based on 90% chance to get candy, odds state you should have 2 to 3 non candy runs at this point. I just got my second non candy lane today myself (both non candy have been 2 million gold).

Anyone who has gotten more than 2 to 3 non candy paths has had good to great luck. Anyone with 0-1 non candy paths has had bad luck.

Those who have gotten the big prize, the 6* AG have had amazing luck as it's only 1% chance to get, meaning on our 30+ attempts, odds are most players will not get it.

DNA3000

Dear Kabam,
I played this candy rift event so far everyday, one day I got 2 mil Gold and one day sig stones. Rest of the days only candies. Please tell me how is this fair? When one person can do same fights and get 3 Awakening gems, 6* shards and all cool stuff in the mix.

Meanwhile me, a player who played the same quest and same difficulty gets candies to buy some candy shards, just to pull 5* (3 of them only). While others duping knull and pulling other cool champs as 6*.

Please tell me how is that fair, Why should I be motivated to be pissed on by my bad luck( call that RNG, Call that algorithm). Why ??? Why can't we have definite rewards. makes me angry, makes me sad. What the hell is this system. Atleast last time we could have selected a path of our choice on last day. But that too isnt possible this time.

Where do I go with my this outburst? Am I overreacting? Is this fair in any sense?

If that's how you look at the game, it isn't fair. Everyone doesn't get exactly the same stuff for exactly the same effort. But nothing is fair. Nothing is fair. No competition is fair. Competitions reward people with some skills and properties over other players who don't have them. If someone has really fast finger reflexes and someone else is really good at hiking and someone else does calculus really well, one of them will have an arbitrarily high advantage in clearing Abyss of Legends. Is that fair? Why?

Its a game, and the game has rules. One of them is we reward players who can tap accurately on a screen. We don't reward players who can do the 100 meter dash fast. That is just how it is. It is not fair, except in context. We accept that it is a game about tapping a screen, and so we accept that tappy tappy people will have an advantage, and that's that.

This is also a game with random rewards. You have to accept this. We don't all get the same result from random rewards. We all get similar opportunities to earn those rewards, but not the same results from those opportunities. We accept the fact that in the long run random chance will (roughly) even out for all players. We get a bad pull here, but we'll eventually get a good pull there. Over time, random chance affects everyone evenly, so in the context of the game random chance is fair.

If you can't accept that definition of fairness, then games with random rewards are not for you.

nephewstew

Noone in my alliance got the ag or the 10k 6 star shards..so u not alone

Panchulon21

Oh god stop crying.

Squirrelguy

First, I will note that if you don't like RNG, you may be playing the wrong game. Not to oversimplify a worldview, but don't do things that make you extremely upset.

Second, while this game has large amounts of RNG influences (and that is not a bad thing), there are actually a lot of aspects of guaranteed rewards. If you don't like the aspects of the game that heavily feature RNG-based rewards, focus on ones with guaranteed rewards.

BestAnand

Yeah, luck has to go in this game. Rifts are luck driven, need to go. Cavalier crystals need luck to get a six star, get rid of them. Mythic crystals? Out of here. Grandmaster and premium hero crystals? Bye. Then in a six star basics you have to have luck to pull a good champion so let’s axe them as well. Same for five, four, and three star crystals. After we get rid of all of those then this game will be fair and fun for all!

Can you go more extreme? Imagine doing abyss and getting random rewards like you either get t5cc or t6 iso... I bet [meanies] like you will come saying... Oohhh this is luck based game... Accept it

BestAnand

Oh god stop crying.

Oh God stop kissing ass. Or buzz off. It's my opinion, my rant, Got problem with community posts like this? Cry more.

BestAnand

First, I will note that if you don't like RNG, you may be playing the wrong game. Not to oversimplify a worldview, but don't do things that make you extremely upset.

Second, while this game has large amounts of RNG influences (and that is not a bad thing), there are actually a lot of aspects of guaranteed rewards. If you don't like the aspects of the game that heavily feature RNG-based rewards, focus on ones with guaranteed rewards.

It's competitive game. I can complete with my skills, I can't compete with luck. It's one thing to make better use of claire than doom. It's your skill if you can use quake better than any stronger science. It's my skill to do so. But how do I compete with ones who are awakening champs by doing 10 mins run and I had to explore act 6 and abyss for the same?

Panchulon21

Oh god stop crying.
Oh God stop kissing ass. Or buzz off. It's my opinion, my rant, Got problem with community posts like this? Cry more.

I’m not kissing, the game is the way the game is. Most mobile games have an rng based system. You complaining about something that’s been the way it is for 7 years makes you look like……. Something I won’t say so I don’t get banned.

BestAnand

And to all those who are saying "iTs RnG bAsEd gAme, rAndOm rEwArds aRe OkAy, iTs fAir tO have LuCK in rEwArds"
Why aren't there random rewards in story quests? Why not in event quests? That should be fair too.

BitterSteel

Oh god stop crying.
Cry more.

Does it smell like projection here to anyone?

OP, just a tip, I’d probably not insult anyone who doesn’t agree with your opinion - it makes your argument look weak(er).

BestAnand

Oh god stop crying.
Oh God stop kissing ass. Or buzz off. It's my opinion, my rant, Got problem with community posts like this? Cry more.
I’m not kissing, the game is the way the game is. Most mobile games have an rng based system. You complaining about something that’s been the way it is for 7 years makes you look like……. Something I won’t say so I don’t get banned.

What? Crybaby? Stupid? F word? Say it... I won't mind.
Just because something has been for 7 years doesn't mean it needs to stay the same. It's called evolution, it's called improvement

And what exactly has been around for 7 years? Rifts? Previous rifts had selectors to make up for it.... What game have been playing which had RNG based side quest rewards.

Only thing that should be RNG based are crystals.... Anything otherthan that... Make them hard to grind, don't give to random players with good luck to come on top of you. We must earn things not this lottery.

BestAnand

@Kabam Zibiit please let me know if I'm being unnecessarily offensive to anyone. I am fairly new to these community posting, I didn't know I will get jumped for presenting my thoughts.

Hort4

Oh god stop crying.
Oh God stop kissing ass. Or buzz off. It's my opinion, my rant, Got problem with community posts like this? Cry more.
I’m not kissing, the game is the way the game is. Most mobile games have an rng based system. You complaining about something that’s been the way it is for 7 years makes you look like……. Something I won’t say so I don’t get banned.
What? Crybaby? Stupid? F word? Say it... I won't mind.
Just because something has been for 7 years doesn't mean it needs to stay the same. It's called evolution, it's called improvement

And what exactly has been around for 7 years? Rifts? Previous rifts had selectors to make up for it.... What game have been playing which had RNG based side quest rewards.

Only thing that should be RNG based are crystals.... Anything otherthan that... Make them hard to grind, don't give to random players with good luck to come on top of you. We must earn things not this lottery.

Why do you accept that crystals are okay as RNG? There is a huge disparity in champions. I would gladly give up an AG for Hercules. I accept RNG in the entire game. Had horrible luck on the latest 6* feature. Hope to have better luck next time. Had candy every run so far but one where i luckily go a T5C mystic which I already have 3 with no pressing need for it.

BestAnand

Never understood why virtually every Indian on the net mentions "crying" when blowing off steam? Is crying a big thing in your culture? Or did you all attend the same school?

Idk which country you're from but surely you weren't taught to pay attention, explains your dimwit. Check who mentioned crying before genius

Demonzfyre

The game isn’t at a place where it wants to (or can) give all players all those rewards in a monthly quest. You would not have had the chance at any of the extra items from a monthly side quest if it wasn’t offered at a low probability.

It is fair because everyone had the same chance.

And finally this is a game founded on gacha mechanics, make peace with gacha or be forever frustrated by the game.

The game isn’t at a place where it wants to (or can) give all players all those rewards in a monthly quest. You would not have had the chance at any of the extra items from a monthly side quest if it wasn’t offered at a low probability.

It is fair because everyone had the same chance.

And finally this is a game founded on gacha mechanics, make peace with gacha or be forever frustrated by the game.
You really think everyone has same odds? Really? You don't think there's any algorithm interfering that?
If it was all LUCK, some people would have had all trash champs and some would have had all Awesome champs .. it's possibility if its completely random, yet we all eventually get champs that will get us through content. Think about it, how is somehow everyone has a balanced roster?

I've gotten 100% candy paths with all objectives 100% so far. The fact that you got 2 different parts while I've had the same one the entire time means there is no algorithm. It's 90% for one of the paths.

Also, you are completely wrong about what it means to have luck or not. There are plenty of examples of people with less than ideal rosters and the post about it constantly here. People have "balanced rosters" because you continue to open crystals and the .ore you open, the better the chance to get something you want.

But hey, the tinfoil conspiracies are fun too I guess.

Panchulon21

This cry baby about to get bannnnnnedddddd

BestAnand

Oh god stop crying.
Oh God stop kissing ass. Or buzz off. It's my opinion, my rant, Got problem with community posts like this? Cry more.
I’m not kissing, the game is the way the game is. Most mobile games have an rng based system. You complaining about something that’s been the way it is for 7 years makes you look like……. Something I won’t say so I don’t get banned.
What? Crybaby? Stupid? F word? Say it... I won't mind.
Just because something has been for 7 years doesn't mean it needs to stay the same. It's called evolution, it's called improvement

And what exactly has been around for 7 years? Rifts? Previous rifts had selectors to make up for it.... What game have been playing which had RNG based side quest rewards.

Only thing that should be RNG based are crystals.... Anything otherthan that... Make them hard to grind, don't give to random players with good luck to come on top of you. We must earn things not this lottery.
Why do you accept that crystals are okay as RNG? There is a huge disparity in champions. I would gladly give up an AG for Hercules. I accept RNG in the entire game. Had horrible luck on the latest 6* feature. Hope to have better luck next time. Had candy every run so far but one where i luckily go a T5C mystic which I already have 3 with no pressing need for it.

Yeah it's okay to have RNG or crystals, otherwise everyone will have same top champs and then stop grinding forever. Game will loose fun. But RNG on wheather you get crystal is lame.

Hope that helps

DragonMCOC

Based on how this event was structured, I assumed I would only get candy...and I have. So, you've had better 'luck' than me and many others.

I'm happy with utilizing the basically free candy to buy stuff...

BestAnand

Based on how this event was structured, I assumed I would only get candy...and I have. So, you've had better 'luck' than me and many others.

I'm happy with utilizing the basically free candy to buy stuff...

No arguments, but my original point was Is it fair to have huge reward like 6* awakening gem as Luck? Give everyone a fair chance to get it. Why is it like if everyone does same thing some might get 6* gem and others end up stuff to buy gold, highly prices 6* shards and some 10-15% t5cc.

In my opinion it's not fair. But this community chose to jump on me anyways.

Doosra

Dear Kabam,
I played this candy rift event so far everyday, one day I got 2 mil Gold and one day sig stones. Rest of the days only candies. Please tell me how is this fair? When one person can do same fights and get 3 Awakening gems, 6* shards and all cool stuff in the mix.

Meanwhile me, a player who played the same quest and same difficulty gets candies to buy some candy shards, just to pull 5* (3 of them only). While others duping knull and pulling other cool champs as 6*.

Please tell me how is that fair, Why should I be motivated to be pissed on by my bad luck( call that RNG, Call that algorithm). Why ??? Why can't we have definite rewards. makes me angry, makes me sad. What the hell is this system. Atleast last time we could have selected a path of our choice on last day. But that too isnt possible this time.

Where do I go with my this outburst? Am I overreacting? Is this fair in any sense?

Got 2m and sig stones, still complaining
Me who got 34 days of candy still hoping to get the premium reward which we couldn't get previously in any sidequest

BestAnand

Never understood why virtually every Indian on the net mentions "crying" when blowing off steam? Is crying a big thing in your culture? Or did you all attend the same school?
Idk which country you're from but surely you weren't taught to pay attention, explains your dimwit. Check who mentioned crying before genius
They may be Indian too; in case you're unaware, there are close to 1.5B of you.

I'm guessing you're a scrawny bespectacled little boy who in the real world would jump out of his skin if confronted by your own shadow. Bravado on the net amounts to jack diddly.

That's cool racism... I guess that's okay here. And yes we are 1.5Billion. Yes we are third world country people and yes we got internet so late that whole world is ahead of us in many things. Yes we have limited vocabulary given than we have so many languages and our education system is not upto the mark to be fluent in English. So yes we sound dumb on internet, maybe we are.....but you are no one to judge my guy.

@Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit whoever oversees forum posts/comments, here's a racist for you guys to handle.

BestAnand

Dear Kabam,
I played this candy rift event so far everyday, one day I got 2 mil Gold and one day sig stones. Rest of the days only candies. Please tell me how is this fair? When one person can do same fights and get 3 Awakening gems, 6* shards and all cool stuff in the mix.

Meanwhile me, a player who played the same quest and same difficulty gets candies to buy some candy shards, just to pull 5* (3 of them only). While others duping knull and pulling other cool champs as 6*.

Please tell me how is that fair, Why should I be motivated to be pissed on by my bad luck( call that RNG, Call that algorithm). Why ??? Why can't we have definite rewards. makes me angry, makes me sad. What the hell is this system. Atleast last time we could have selected a path of our choice on last day. But that too isnt possible this time.

Where do I go with my this outburst? Am I overreacting? Is this fair in any sense?
Got 2m and sig stones, still complaining
Me who got 34 days of candy still hoping to get the premium reward which we couldn't get previously in any sidequest

Yes, I am complaing. Because this luck based rewards system interferes with me being a competitive player. Bite me.

Demonzfyre

Based on how this event was structured, I assumed I would only get candy...and I have. So, you've had better 'luck' than me and many others.

I'm happy with utilizing the basically free candy to buy stuff...
No arguments, but my original point was Is it fair to have huge reward like 6* awakening gem as Luck? Give everyone a fair chance to get it. Why is it like if everyone does same thing some might get 6* gem and others end up stuff to buy gold, highly prices 6* shards and some 10-15% t5cc.

In my opinion it's not fair. But this community chose to jump on me anyways.

You have a fair chance to get it. You have the same chance as everyone else. How is that not fair?