Anyone else feel this way on BG?

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  • I3loodAngelI3loodAngel Member Posts: 30
    edited November 2022

    Only reason matchmaking needed a change is because people with higher tier champs didn’t want to face whales since they have triple the size of an account but making people face whales and cav face easier opponents is just really unfair at times like I go on a 2 win streak against people my size and then facing 6 whales back to back purely unfair matchmaking needs another change to be more fair for everyone not just the lower players since this mode is mainly played by paragons and tbs

    What is whale then? I have 9 rank 4s now. Am I a whale? Do I need more rank 4 to be a whale?

    It’s easy to complain, but when you can’t even define, how can the match making do it?

  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    This thread is 100% true.

    The current matchmaking discourages using your best roster if you are a Paragon. Starting everyone at 0 is awful. It's just so stupid. They tried it with AW and it failed miserably. Now they're brought it to BGs.

    Some of the suggestions in these threads that for some reason they rtefuse to introduce:
    -Start people in different tiers.
    -Have different competitions for people at different levels.
    -Give higher multipliers to beating higher players.
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,671 ★★★★★

    This thread is 100% true.

    The current matchmaking discourages using your best roster if you are a Paragon. Starting everyone at 0 is awful. It's just so stupid. They tried it with AW and it failed miserably. Now they're brought it to BGs.

    Some of the suggestions in these threads that for some reason they rtefuse to introduce:
    -Start people in different tiers.
    -Have different competitions for people at different levels.
    -Give higher multipliers to beating higher players.

    I don’t agree your first statement at all. I’m paragon, and I went from bronze 3 to diamond 3 losing only 1 match.

    I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you seem to suggest.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    LiLbee2 said:

    lol this is stupid
    because you are playing BG to get the rankup materials and rewards
    if you dont rankup champs for it then whats the point of playing? just dont.

    why not rank up as much as you can
    Try your hardest
    once in a while you will meet super whales but we all are in the same bracket sometimes you will win against them if you get a good draw and play skillfully enough sometimes you will lose.

    you deciding to not rankup is your choice BGs isnt making you do that.

    with a smaller roster you may get out of victory track but wont make it too high in glad circuit
    and considering i havent even tried sandbagging or anything and yet easily enough make it to glad circuit by grinding BGs in week3 of season I would say that not ranking up champs is not beneficial at all in long run.

    First, zero need to be rude. Second of all, who said I have a "small" roster? You are making many incorrect assumptions. I have 3.5 million rating roster, 15.7k prestige and have 100% all content in the game.

    My current roster is more than enough to do everything I need in the game with zero reason to believe it won't be enough for quite a while. My point is with an already strong roster, all I'm doing by increasing it more is narrowing down even more of who I will get matched with, with makes zero sense to me.

    Additionally, fairly high in GC last season despite not putting in much effort. The point is, the way it currently stands, it's far easier to get to GC by having or using a small roster. I agree bigger rosters are better in GC, but GC is the endgame part of BG. Plus, I have no intention of trying to finish in top of the BG, I'm more than Happy with my 35k -40k BG chips at seasons end.
    You dont make any sense with such big account and skills to 100% all content, you should be on level where no match up should be hard, more like even. You will only lose because your drafts or skills are poor
    This has to be one of the worst arguments I've ever seen. That's like a pop warner coach saying it must be easy for NFL coaches to win games because they're the best coaches and have professional players. Who do you think they're playing against?
  • ChatterofforumsChatterofforums Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    This thread is 100% true.

    The current matchmaking discourages using your best roster if you are a Paragon. Starting everyone at 0 is awful. It's just so stupid. They tried it with AW and it failed miserably. Now they're brought it to BGs.

    Some of the suggestions in these threads that for some reason they rtefuse to introduce:
    -Start people in different tiers.
    -Have different competitions for people at different levels.
    -Give higher multipliers to beating higher players.

    I don’t agree your first statement at all. I’m paragon, and I went from bronze 3 to diamond 3 losing only 1 match.

    I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you seem to suggest.
    Congrats, I'm in diamond 1 myself currently, but for the most part I didn't use my top roster. I absolutely did some roster manipulation along the way, primarily using 4 and 5*s.

    My question is did you use your absolute best BG champs (same you will use when you are in gladiator circuit) or did you use any form of using weaker roster at any point?
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,671 ★★★★★

    FiiNCH said:

    This thread is 100% true.

    The current matchmaking discourages using your best roster if you are a Paragon. Starting everyone at 0 is awful. It's just so stupid. They tried it with AW and it failed miserably. Now they're brought it to BGs.

    Some of the suggestions in these threads that for some reason they rtefuse to introduce:
    -Start people in different tiers.
    -Have different competitions for people at different levels.
    -Give higher multipliers to beating higher players.

    I don’t agree your first statement at all. I’m paragon, and I went from bronze 3 to diamond 3 losing only 1 match.

    I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you seem to suggest.
    Congrats, I'm in diamond 1 myself currently, but for the most part I didn't use my top roster. I absolutely did some roster manipulation along the way, primarily using 4 and 5*s.

    My question is did you use your absolute best BG champs (same you will use when you are in gladiator circuit) or did you use any form of using weaker roster at any point?
    Being 100% honest, I used the best champs available in my roster. All 30 6* rank 3 or 4.

    I’m not trying to flex here, merely showing my experience isn’t matching the feedback in this thread.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    This thread is 100% true.

    The current matchmaking discourages using your best roster if you are a Paragon. Starting everyone at 0 is awful. It's just so stupid. They tried it with AW and it failed miserably. Now they're brought it to BGs.

    Some of the suggestions in these threads that for some reason they rtefuse to introduce:
    -Start people in different tiers.
    -Have different competitions for people at different levels.
    -Give higher multipliers to beating higher players.

    I don’t agree your first statement at all. I’m paragon, and I went from bronze 3 to diamond 3 losing only 1 match.

    I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you seem to suggest.
    What's your prestige and that is the prestige of the guys you're beating? I'm 15.7 and am getting 15.9+ in Silver when using a full deck. You are either super lucky or have a lower deck, which isn't giving you the top accounts.
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,671 ★★★★★

    FiiNCH said:

    This thread is 100% true.

    The current matchmaking discourages using your best roster if you are a Paragon. Starting everyone at 0 is awful. It's just so stupid. They tried it with AW and it failed miserably. Now they're brought it to BGs.

    Some of the suggestions in these threads that for some reason they rtefuse to introduce:
    -Start people in different tiers.
    -Have different competitions for people at different levels.
    -Give higher multipliers to beating higher players.

    I don’t agree your first statement at all. I’m paragon, and I went from bronze 3 to diamond 3 losing only 1 match.

    I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you seem to suggest.
    What's your prestige and that is the prestige of the guys you're beating? I'm 15.7 and am getting 15.9+ in Silver when using a full deck. You are either super lucky or have a lower deck, which isn't giving you the top accounts.
    Wrong again I’m afraid.

    My prestige is 14000 and I’ve been getting regular matchups with 3mil plus accounts with way over 15000 prestige.

  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    This thread is 100% true.

    The current matchmaking discourages using your best roster if you are a Paragon. Starting everyone at 0 is awful. It's just so stupid. They tried it with AW and it failed miserably. Now they're brought it to BGs.

    Some of the suggestions in these threads that for some reason they rtefuse to introduce:
    -Start people in different tiers.
    -Have different competitions for people at different levels.
    -Give higher multipliers to beating higher players.

    I don’t agree your first statement at all. I’m paragon, and I went from bronze 3 to diamond 3 losing only 1 match.

    I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you seem to suggest.
    What's your prestige and that is the prestige of the guys you're beating? I'm 15.7 and am getting 15.9+ in Silver when using a full deck. You are either super lucky or have a lower deck, which isn't giving you the top accounts.
    Wrong again I’m afraid.

    My prestige is 14000 and I’ve been getting regular matchups with 3mil plus accounts with way over 15000 prestige.

    Actually no, that proves my point. You're a 14k Paragon so you're getting other low-level Paragons. It seems like you're in the sweet spot of the matchmaking. High enough to have a good roster to win but low enough that you don't get the best of the best.
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    I can tell you that with a full roster I've never been matched with a 14k Paragon, ever.
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,671 ★★★★★

    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    This thread is 100% true.

    The current matchmaking discourages using your best roster if you are a Paragon. Starting everyone at 0 is awful. It's just so stupid. They tried it with AW and it failed miserably. Now they're brought it to BGs.

    Some of the suggestions in these threads that for some reason they rtefuse to introduce:
    -Start people in different tiers.
    -Have different competitions for people at different levels.
    -Give higher multipliers to beating higher players.

    I don’t agree your first statement at all. I’m paragon, and I went from bronze 3 to diamond 3 losing only 1 match.

    I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you seem to suggest.
    What's your prestige and that is the prestige of the guys you're beating? I'm 15.7 and am getting 15.9+ in Silver when using a full deck. You are either super lucky or have a lower deck, which isn't giving you the top accounts.
    Wrong again I’m afraid.

    My prestige is 14000 and I’ve been getting regular matchups with 3mil plus accounts with way over 15000 prestige.

    Actually no, that proves my point. You're a 14k Paragon so you're getting other low-level Paragons. It seems like you're in the sweet spot of the matchmaking. High enough to have a good roster to win but low enough that you don't get the best of the best.
    I don’t think so, I’ve gone through my results and I’ve had several matchups with accounts 4mil+ and 15.8k prestige. If what you say is true, I shouldn’t be getting these match-ups…
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,671 ★★★★★

    I can tell you that with a full roster I've never been matched with a 14k Paragon, ever.

    Then why am I getting matched with accounts with the same or higher prestige than you…
  • Ironman3000Ironman3000 Member Posts: 1,958 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    FiiNCH said:

    This thread is 100% true.

    The current matchmaking discourages using your best roster if you are a Paragon. Starting everyone at 0 is awful. It's just so stupid. They tried it with AW and it failed miserably. Now they're brought it to BGs.

    Some of the suggestions in these threads that for some reason they rtefuse to introduce:
    -Start people in different tiers.
    -Have different competitions for people at different levels.
    -Give higher multipliers to beating higher players.

    I don’t agree your first statement at all. I’m paragon, and I went from bronze 3 to diamond 3 losing only 1 match.

    I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as you seem to suggest.
    What's your prestige and that is the prestige of the guys you're beating? I'm 15.7 and am getting 15.9+ in Silver when using a full deck. You are either super lucky or have a lower deck, which isn't giving you the top accounts.
    Wrong again I’m afraid.

    My prestige is 14000 and I’ve been getting regular matchups with 3mil plus accounts with way over 15000 prestige.

    Actually no, that proves my point. You're a 14k Paragon so you're getting other low-level Paragons. It seems like you're in the sweet spot of the matchmaking. High enough to have a good roster to win but low enough that you don't get the best of the best.
    I don’t think so, I’ve gone through my results and I’ve had several matchups with accounts 4mil+ and 15.8k prestige. If what you say is true, I shouldn’t be getting these match-ups…
    "Several" and "only" are two different things.

    Basically if what you're seeing is different from everyone else in this thread then there's a reason for it. The only thing I'm seeing different about you is that you're a very low-prestige Paragon.
  • ChatterofforumsChatterofforums Member Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    I can tell you that with a full roster I've never been matched with a 14k Paragon, ever.

    Then why am I getting matched with accounts with the same or higher prestige than you…
    Well I'm not the only one who feels like something is off because it sure doesn't match my experiences and sure doesn't some of the others. I'd love to see screenshots of match history.
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,671 ★★★★★

    FiiNCH said:

    I can tell you that with a full roster I've never been matched with a 14k Paragon, ever.

    Then why am I getting matched with accounts with the same or higher prestige than you…
    Well I'm not the only one who feels like something is off because it sure doesn't match my experiences and sure doesn't some of the others. I'd love to see screenshots of match history.
    PM me your line and I’ll be happy to send across screenshots. I can’t share them on here.
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  • K00shMaanK00shMaan Member Posts: 1,289 ★★★★
    There is also a criteria for matchmaking that people don't comment on a lot and that is how long it took a match to queue. You'll notice that people at the top of GC sometimes take many minutes to find a match. Going through Bronze to Platinum I don't think I ever had a queue reach more than maybe 40 seconds, average being probably like 15 seconds. The assumption is that the matchmaking becomes wider as you spend time in the queue (which I'm all for, no wants to waste time). To those of you who complain about outlier matches, can you recall if they were preceded by longer than normal wait times?
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,573 ★★★★★
    So because you're judging their Roster compared to your own, you're asserting their Matches are easier for THEM? Interesting.
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