You can do TBEQ with 5*'s. If you're relying on R4's to do that quest, you really are a terrible player.
Meh, I’m OK.
Yes, I made my single pass with mostly 5* champs, because many of them are my best champs.
It sucked. It wasn’t fun, at all.
I have a few decent 6* champs as well, but not enough ranked up high enough to fill the gaps that many of my 5* champs provide.
That said, I won’t be exploring TB … maybe 1st two chapters? … and if it’s similar next month, I won’t touch it. Then I’ll probably quit again, because OH, WELL.
You still never answered my question, by the way.
Exactly the point.. u need to fill those gaps...What is a 2nd r4 gonna solve? Just your comment about powering through made me wonder and i am 99% sure i will be right... Your r4 is Hercules and all u do is hope u can "power through" on his inmortality
No. I almost didn’t use Herc for anything at all, to be honest.
My most common team on general content is R3 Void, R5* Fury, R5* Quake (the evade synergy helps me not want to lose my mind from dropped inputs and I can quake-shake very well), R3 Hood and R3 Mysterio (for Hood Synergy) or unduped R3 Doom and Warlock.
I change it up a little based on needs, but those are most of my best champs.
Used Void for AM (after failing hard once) and an R2 unduped Valk for BZ (with revives because im still getting used to her).
I soloed level 5 SEQ Herc and QS with my 5* Fury and soloed OS with Corvus.
Listen dudes, I’m not a terrible player and I’m not an idiot. I’ve been playing this game for a long time and have recently come back from a long break.
It’s clear to me a lot has changed (the vitriol in the community is apparently a gold standard) and I see a Kabam has painted itself into a corner selling deals to cash in and allow people to pay to advance and they’re having terrible problems keeping the content balanced for everyone.
My spot in the contest is different than yours, no doubt … and there are myriad reasons why.
With that said, my frustrations with finding the right balance between content growth, roster growth, skill growth and the time I choose to waste on this godforsaken game are no less valuable than anyone else’s.
You’re happy where you are. I get it. I’m happy for you too.
The right balance is roster growth first before content you’re having difficulties with. That’s not a hard concept to follow.
Having the ability to rank up your champs to help compensate for lack of skill and/or RNG-based diversity is also part of roster growth. That’s not a hard concept to follow.
Yes but you should be ranking up a variety of champs, and you don’t need R4 materials for a R5 5*, R2 or R3 6* to do that. You’re trying to sprint before you’ve learned to walk.
You can do TBEQ with 5*'s. If you're relying on R4's to do that quest, you really are a terrible player.
Meh, I’m OK.
Yes, I made my single pass with mostly 5* champs, because many of them are my best champs.
It sucked. It wasn’t fun, at all.
I have a few decent 6* champs as well, but not enough ranked up high enough to fill the gaps that many of my 5* champs provide.
That said, I won’t be exploring TB … maybe 1st two chapters? … and if it’s similar next month, I won’t touch it. Then I’ll probably quit again, because OH, WELL.
You still never answered my question, by the way.
Exactly the point.. u need to fill those gaps...What is a 2nd r4 gonna solve? Just your comment about powering through made me wonder and i am 99% sure i will be right... Your r4 is Hercules and all u do is hope u can "power through" on his inmortality
No. I almost didn’t use Herc for anything at all, to be honest.
My most common team on general content is R3 Void, R5* Fury, R5* Quake (the evade synergy helps me not want to lose my mind from dropped inputs and I can quake-shake very well), R3 Hood and R3 Mysterio (for Hood Synergy) or unduped R3 Doom and Warlock.
I change it up a little based on needs, but those are most of my best champs.
Used Void for AM (after failing hard once) and an R2 unduped Valk for BZ (with revives because im still getting used to her).
I soloed level 5 SEQ Herc and QS with my 5* Fury and soloed OS with Corvus.
Listen dudes, I’m not a terrible player and I’m not an idiot. I’ve been playing this game for a long time and have recently come back from a long break.
It’s clear to me a lot has changed (the vitriol in the community is apparently a gold standard) and I see a Kabam has painted itself into a corner selling deals to cash in and allow people to pay to advance and they’re having terrible problems keeping the content balanced for everyone.
My spot in the contest is different than yours, no doubt … and there are myriad reasons why.
With that said, my frustrations with finding the right balance between content growth, roster growth, skill growth and the time I choose to waste on this godforsaken game are no less valuable than anyone else’s.
You’re happy where you are. I get it. I’m happy for you too.
The right balance is roster growth first before content you’re having difficulties with. That’s not a hard concept to follow.
Having the ability to rank up your champs to help compensate for lack of skill and/or RNG-based diversity is also part of roster growth. That’s not a hard concept to follow.
So i was right... Hercules is your R4... Its not a matter of being terrible or not... TB difficulty has class and tagged crossfights.. u named synergy and champs that could probably get u by 2 or 3 chapters... There is no shame on a TB having a difficult time in TB difficulty; but u obviously don't need 1 more r4... U need more r3s to have a diverse roster
The point is that there are currently Paragon players who used those R4 Mats from CavEQ to get from TB to Paragon. Now, new TB players don't get that same privilege. They have to go through a harder difficulty instead. It makes too much sense to just not touch it. I got this privilege so I think it's fair that those that follow me can have it as well.
You can say it was always intended this way but if that's the case, they could have made the challenge harder than just exploring it as normal like back when you had to do a path using only 4*s.
Also some people here are really talking like they are actively choosing not to use their R4's for this content because the content was designed to be completed with weaker champions. I'm obviously using my R4's for this stuff. They're my best champs. They were my best at Rank 3 and are still my best at R4.
The point is that there are currently Paragon players who used those R4 Mats from CavEQ to get from TB to Paragon. Now, new TB players don't get that same privilege. They have to go through a harder difficulty instead. It makes too much sense to just not touch it. I got this privilege so I think it's fair that those that follow me can have it as well.
You can say it was always intended this way but if that's the case, they could have made the challenge harder than just exploring it as normal like back when you had to do a path using only 4*s.
Also some people here are really talking like they are actively choosing not to use their R4's for this content because the content was designed to be completed with weaker champions. I'm obviously using my R4's for this stuff. They're my best champs. They were my best at Rank 3 and are still my best at R4.
U r mixing arguments just to fit your narrative... If i have an R4 that meets the challenge i will use him... For example.. TB difficulty has a protection node that non mystics do 90% less dmg... Am i gonna take my beefy r4 Nimrod to it?... No i will take a mystic r4 that fits the criteria... If i dont have an r4 i will take an r3 or r2... Now its a complete narrative when someone tells u "Oh i can't get r4 mats anymore from cav eq now i can't complete TB difficulty cause i won't have r4s..."
It’s not terribly hard to look me up in-game to figure that one out, detective.
I didn't look u up.. the "power through" comment and the false youtuber statement was a dead giveaway... Hercules is a great champ but makes playstyle extremely lazy.
The point is that there are currently Paragon players who used those R4 Mats from CavEQ to get from TB to Paragon. Now, new TB players don't get that same privilege. They have to go through a harder difficulty instead. It makes too much sense to just not touch it. I got this privilege so I think it's fair that those that follow me can have it as well.
You can say it was always intended this way but if that's the case, they could have made the challenge harder than just exploring it as normal like back when you had to do a path using only 4*s.
Also some people here are really talking like they are actively choosing not to use their R4's for this content because the content was designed to be completed with weaker champions. I'm obviously using my R4's for this stuff. They're my best champs. They were my best at Rank 3 and are still my best at R4.
I didn’t use any of my R4s for TBEQ. Not because they’re bad, but because I had better options for the nodes that were present. That’s the point of a diverse roster.
But also to your point about people using the materials from “easier” content to become paragon, TBs now have more access to those materials than what the paragons who grinded through Cav EQ each month. Remember it would have taken 10 months to form a single R4 that way. Now the fact that the Cav Objective was only implemented in July 2022… means that there was only enough for about half of that. No one who is Paragon now managed to get a full R4 from those objectives alone. Let alone 3 R4s.
Yes but you should be ranking up a variety of champs, and you don’t need R4 materials for a R5 5*, R2 or R3 6* to do that.
Um, JUST LIKE pretty much EVERYONE ELSE, I’m not using precious resources to rank garbage champs simply because having a dozen terrible R3 champs isn’t going to help either.
I rank up the best offensive champs I have first, best defensive next, above average champs after that and garbage if I have resources expiring.
Unless you have resources flowing out of your ears, I'm assuming you do the same thing. Unless, of course, it’s for AW defense or something.
The point is that there are currently Paragon players who used those R4 Mats from CavEQ to get from TB to Paragon. Now, new TB players don't get that same privilege. They have to go through a harder difficulty instead. It makes too much sense to just not touch it. I got this privilege so I think it's fair that those that follow me can have it as well.
You can say it was always intended this way but if that's the case, they could have made the challenge harder than just exploring it as normal like back when you had to do a path using only 4*s.
Also some people here are really talking like they are actively choosing not to use their R4's for this content because the content was designed to be completed with weaker champions. I'm obviously using my R4's for this stuff. They're my best champs. They were my best at Rank 3 and are still my best at R4.
I didn’t use any of my R4s for TBEQ. Not because they’re bad, but because I had better options for the nodes that were present. That’s the point of a diverse roster.
But also to your point about people using the materials from “easier” content to become paragon, TBs now have more access to those materials than what the paragons who grinded through Cav EQ each month. Remember it would have taken 10 months to form a single R4 that way. Now the fact that the Cav Objective was only implemented in July 2022… means that there was only enough for about half of that. No one who is Paragon now managed to get a full R4 from those objectives alone. Let alone 3 R4s.
These resources helped me get to Paragon. Yes they weren't my only source of these materials but I had access to them and I don't see the point in removing that from the people that follow me. They aren't ranked rewards.
The point is that there are currently Paragon players who used those R4 Mats from CavEQ to get from TB to Paragon. Now, new TB players don't get that same privilege. They have to go through a harder difficulty instead. It makes too much sense to just not touch it. I got this privilege so I think it's fair that those that follow me can have it as well.
You can say it was always intended this way but if that's the case, they could have made the challenge harder than just exploring it as normal like back when you had to do a path using only 4*s.
Also some people here are really talking like they are actively choosing not to use their R4's for this content because the content was designed to be completed with weaker champions. I'm obviously using my R4's for this stuff. They're my best champs. They were my best at Rank 3 and are still my best at R4.
You don't need R4's to do TBEQ. No one's saying don't use them. We're saying it's not hard enough to need to use them. If you think TBEQ is hard, well... You're just not good at the game.
You can do TBEQ with 5*'s. If you're relying on R4's to do that quest, you really are a terrible player.
Meh, I’m OK.
Yes, I made my single pass with mostly 5* champs, because many of them are my best champs.
It sucked. It wasn’t fun, at all.
I have a few decent 6* champs as well, but not enough ranked up high enough to fill the gaps that many of my 5* champs provide.
That said, I won’t be exploring TB … maybe 1st two chapters? … and if it’s similar next month, I won’t touch it. Then I’ll probably quit again, because OH, WELL.
You still never answered my question, by the way.
Exactly the point.. u need to fill those gaps...What is a 2nd r4 gonna solve? Just your comment about powering through made me wonder and i am 99% sure i will be right... Your r4 is Hercules and all u do is hope u can "power through" on his inmortality
No. I almost didn’t use Herc for anything at all, to be honest.
My most common team on general content is R3 Void, R5* Fury, R5* Quake (the evade synergy helps me not want to lose my mind from dropped inputs and I can quake-shake very well), R3 Hood and R3 Mysterio (for Hood Synergy) or unduped R3 Doom and Warlock.
I change it up a little based on needs, but those are most of my best champs.
Used Void for AM (after failing hard once) and an R2 unduped Valk for BZ (with revives because im still getting used to her).
I soloed level 5 SEQ Herc and QS with my 5* Fury and soloed OS with Corvus.
Listen dudes, I’m not a terrible player and I’m not an idiot. I’ve been playing this game for a long time and have recently come back from a long break.
It’s clear to me a lot has changed (the vitriol in the community is apparently a gold standard) and I see a Kabam has painted itself into a corner selling deals to cash in and allow people to pay to advance and they’re having terrible problems keeping the content balanced for everyone.
My spot in the contest is different than yours, no doubt … and there are myriad reasons why.
With that said, my frustrations with finding the right balance between content growth, roster growth, skill growth and the time I choose to waste on this godforsaken game are no less valuable than anyone else’s.
You’re happy where you are. I get it. I’m happy for you too.
The right balance is roster growth first before content you’re having difficulties with. That’s not a hard concept to follow.
Having the ability to rank up your champs to help compensate for lack of skill and/or RNG-based diversity is also part of roster growth. That’s not a hard concept to follow.
Honestly, having a lack of champion strength will better increase your skills in the game faster than having stronger champions.
Eventually you're going to hit a wall where you will need to further improve your skills and champion knowledge. You'll need to understand how nodes work and how to use them to your advantage. Watch YT videos to help build this base knowledge.
The final thing to keep in mind is that TB EQ has been designed to have a completion run done by a new TB account, while exploration is targeted more at Late TB/paragons.
You can do TBEQ with 5*'s. If you're relying on R4's to do that quest, you really are a terrible player.
Meh, I’m OK.
Yes, I made my single pass with mostly 5* champs, because many of them are my best champs.
It sucked. It wasn’t fun, at all.
I have a few decent 6* champs as well, but not enough ranked up high enough to fill the gaps that many of my 5* champs provide.
That said, I won’t be exploring TB … maybe 1st two chapters? … and if it’s similar next month, I won’t touch it. Then I’ll probably quit again, because OH, WELL.
You still never answered my question, by the way.
Exactly the point.. u need to fill those gaps...What is a 2nd r4 gonna solve? Just your comment about powering through made me wonder and i am 99% sure i will be right... Your r4 is Hercules and all u do is hope u can "power through" on his inmortality
No. I almost didn’t use Herc for anything at all, to be honest.
My most common team on general content is R3 Void, R5* Fury, R5* Quake (the evade synergy helps me not want to lose my mind from dropped inputs and I can quake-shake very well), R3 Hood and R3 Mysterio (for Hood Synergy) or unduped R3 Doom and Warlock.
I change it up a little based on needs, but those are most of my best champs.
Used Void for AM (after failing hard once) and an R2 unduped Valk for BZ (with revives because im still getting used to her).
I soloed level 5 SEQ Herc and QS with my 5* Fury and soloed OS with Corvus.
Listen dudes, I’m not a terrible player and I’m not an idiot. I’ve been playing this game for a long time and have recently come back from a long break.
It’s clear to me a lot has changed (the vitriol in the community is apparently a gold standard) and I see a Kabam has painted itself into a corner selling deals to cash in and allow people to pay to advance and they’re having terrible problems keeping the content balanced for everyone.
My spot in the contest is different than yours, no doubt … and there are myriad reasons why.
With that said, my frustrations with finding the right balance between content growth, roster growth, skill growth and the time I choose to waste on this godforsaken game are no less valuable than anyone else’s.
You’re happy where you are. I get it. I’m happy for you too.
The right balance is roster growth first before content you’re having difficulties with. That’s not a hard concept to follow.
Having the ability to rank up your champs to help compensate for lack of skill and/or RNG-based diversity is also part of roster growth. That’s not a hard concept to follow.
Honestly, having a lack of champion strength will better increase your skills in the game faster than having stronger champions.
Eventually you're going to hit a wall where you will need to further improve your skills and champion knowledge. You'll need to understand how nodes work and how to use them to your advantage. Watch YT videos to help build this base knowledge.
The final thing to keep in mind is that TB EQ has been designed to have a completion run done by a new TB account, while exploration is targeted more at Late TB/paragons.
In the beginning, sure. I got lots better exploring act 4 and act 5.
I think skill level likely plateaus by the time you hit TB. Probably even before that. I’m not sure if I’m any better at the game now than when I 100% LOL or did a run through Abyss … or even since I became TB. Having played many game modes on a ton of different devices, I honestly doubt I ever will get my better than I am now. If anything, I’ll continue to get worse as I’m likely in one of the higher-age demographics for this game.
Having some more attack and a larger health pool isn’t the be all, but it certainly helps those of us who might not have the reaction time some of you have … more damage you can give = shorter fights and larger health pools = more damage you can take and less resources when you mess up.
None of these things seem like they should be completely gated behind a skill cap in addition to “lots of other rank ups required” when you’re at TB level … but, again, what I’m describing is the “dangling carrot” foundation of this entire game, so I guess it’s up to me as to whether I take the bait or hang it up again.
U claimed u got 1 r4 and pretty much bought the materials... Not sure how long u have been TB, but if r4s were your concern... U didn't mention 1 time EoP and that was the best source for r4 materials
You can do TBEQ with 5*'s. If you're relying on R4's to do that quest, you really are a terrible player.
Meh, I’m OK.
Yes, I made my single pass with mostly 5* champs, because many of them are my best champs.
It sucked. It wasn’t fun, at all.
I have a few decent 6* champs as well, but not enough ranked up high enough to fill the gaps that many of my 5* champs provide.
That said, I won’t be exploring TB … maybe 1st two chapters? … and if it’s similar next month, I won’t touch it. Then I’ll probably quit again, because OH, WELL.
You still never answered my question, by the way.
Exactly the point.. u need to fill those gaps...What is a 2nd r4 gonna solve? Just your comment about powering through made me wonder and i am 99% sure i will be right... Your r4 is Hercules and all u do is hope u can "power through" on his inmortality
No. I almost didn’t use Herc for anything at all, to be honest.
My most common team on general content is R3 Void, R5* Fury, R5* Quake (the evade synergy helps me not want to lose my mind from dropped inputs and I can quake-shake very well), R3 Hood and R3 Mysterio (for Hood Synergy) or unduped R3 Doom and Warlock.
I change it up a little based on needs, but those are most of my best champs.
Used Void for AM (after failing hard once) and an R2 unduped Valk for BZ (with revives because im still getting used to her).
I soloed level 5 SEQ Herc and QS with my 5* Fury and soloed OS with Corvus.
Listen dudes, I’m not a terrible player and I’m not an idiot. I’ve been playing this game for a long time and have recently come back from a long break.
It’s clear to me a lot has changed (the vitriol in the community is apparently a gold standard) and I see a Kabam has painted itself into a corner selling deals to cash in and allow people to pay to advance and they’re having terrible problems keeping the content balanced for everyone.
My spot in the contest is different than yours, no doubt … and there are myriad reasons why.
With that said, my frustrations with finding the right balance between content growth, roster growth, skill growth and the time I choose to waste on this godforsaken game are no less valuable than anyone else’s.
You’re happy where you are. I get it. I’m happy for you too.
The right balance is roster growth first before content you’re having difficulties with. That’s not a hard concept to follow.
Having the ability to rank up your champs to help compensate for lack of skill and/or RNG-based diversity is also part of roster growth. That’s not a hard concept to follow.
Honestly, having a lack of champion strength will better increase your skills in the game faster than having stronger champions.
Eventually you're going to hit a wall where you will need to further improve your skills and champion knowledge. You'll need to understand how nodes work and how to use them to your advantage. Watch YT videos to help build this base knowledge.
The final thing to keep in mind is that TB EQ has been designed to have a completion run done by a new TB account, while exploration is targeted more at Late TB/paragons.
I think skill level likely plateaus by the time you hit TB.
This is the problem, you have a belief that isn't serving you. I got TB 1.5 years ago and my skills have more than tripled since then. Even now I understand I got a long ways to go.
You aren't going to passively get better at the game. If you really want to get better, you have to find an area where you lack. Once identified, you can practice that area, such as intercepting or reparrying, so you can get the skills needed to do harder content such as TB EQ.
You can do TBEQ with 5*'s. If you're relying on R4's to do that quest, you really are a terrible player.
Meh, I’m OK.
Yes, I made my single pass with mostly 5* champs, because many of them are my best champs.
It sucked. It wasn’t fun, at all.
I have a few decent 6* champs as well, but not enough ranked up high enough to fill the gaps that many of my 5* champs provide.
That said, I won’t be exploring TB … maybe 1st two chapters? … and if it’s similar next month, I won’t touch it. Then I’ll probably quit again, because OH, WELL.
You still never answered my question, by the way.
Exactly the point.. u need to fill those gaps...What is a 2nd r4 gonna solve? Just your comment about powering through made me wonder and i am 99% sure i will be right... Your r4 is Hercules and all u do is hope u can "power through" on his inmortality
No. I almost didn’t use Herc for anything at all, to be honest.
My most common team on general content is R3 Void, R5* Fury, R5* Quake (the evade synergy helps me not want to lose my mind from dropped inputs and I can quake-shake very well), R3 Hood and R3 Mysterio (for Hood Synergy) or unduped R3 Doom and Warlock.
I change it up a little based on needs, but those are most of my best champs.
Used Void for AM (after failing hard once) and an R2 unduped Valk for BZ (with revives because im still getting used to her).
I soloed level 5 SEQ Herc and QS with my 5* Fury and soloed OS with Corvus.
Listen dudes, I’m not a terrible player and I’m not an idiot. I’ve been playing this game for a long time and have recently come back from a long break.
It’s clear to me a lot has changed (the vitriol in the community is apparently a gold standard) and I see a Kabam has painted itself into a corner selling deals to cash in and allow people to pay to advance and they’re having terrible problems keeping the content balanced for everyone.
My spot in the contest is different than yours, no doubt … and there are myriad reasons why.
With that said, my frustrations with finding the right balance between content growth, roster growth, skill growth and the time I choose to waste on this godforsaken game are no less valuable than anyone else’s.
You’re happy where you are. I get it. I’m happy for you too.
The right balance is roster growth first before content you’re having difficulties with. That’s not a hard concept to follow.
Having the ability to rank up your champs to help compensate for lack of skill and/or RNG-based diversity is also part of roster growth. That’s not a hard concept to follow.
Honestly, having a lack of champion strength will better increase your skills in the game faster than having stronger champions.
Eventually you're going to hit a wall where you will need to further improve your skills and champion knowledge. You'll need to understand how nodes work and how to use them to your advantage. Watch YT videos to help build this base knowledge.
The final thing to keep in mind is that TB EQ has been designed to have a completion run done by a new TB account, while exploration is targeted more at Late TB/paragons.
In the beginning, sure. I got lots better exploring act 4 and act 5.
I think skill level likely plateaus by the time you hit TB. Probably even before that. I’m not sure if I’m any better at the game now than when I 100% LOL or did a run through Abyss … or even since I became TB. Having played many game modes on a ton of different devices, I honestly doubt I ever will get my better than I am now. If anything, I’ll continue to get worse as I’m likely in one of the higher-age demographics for this game.
Having some more attack and a larger health pool isn’t the be all, but it certainly helps those of us who might not have the reaction time some of you have … more damage you can give = shorter fights and larger health pools = more damage you can take and less resources when you mess up.
None of these things seem like they should be completely gated behind a skill cap in addition to “lots of other rank ups required” when you’re at TB level … but, again, what I’m describing is the “dangling carrot” foundation of this entire game, so I guess it’s up to me as to whether I take the bait or hang it up again.
U claimed u got 1 r4 and pretty much bought the materials... Not sure how long u have been TB, but if r4s were your concern... U didn't mention 1 time EoP and that was the best source for r4 materials
I became TB within a few months of it being a thing, whenever that was. A few years ago now?
Then I took a couple years off. Longer than 18 months for sure. I can’t remember exactly.
Then, around October, I dipped my toes back in the water, kinda had some fun and decided to drop some cash when the Black Friday deals and Banquet crystals were around in an attempt to make up for a little lost time.
Which I did. I got a few cool champs and some other goodies, so that was cool.
I am still alliance free … and as I keep easing back in, my main focus is (was) having fun with the monthly EQ, which should be exactly that. Fun. I like encountering new bosses and the rewards have always helped keep my account growing at a fairly steady pace.
In the other hand, this month wasn’t fun at all. Cav exploration is borderline easy for me, so I was looking forward to TB as being a further extension of past tradition, which was always to slightly bump the newer, harder difficulty and slightly nerf the last hardest difficulty to allow the transition to be a little more smooth for those “in-betweeners” like me.
Instead, rewards were moved and all difficulty levels got tuned way up … then slightly back, but, I dunno. I don’t really like it anymore. The node combos they were using before seemed kind of fun sometimes, but, now feel punishing.
As far as EoP goes, I’m not sure if I’m into that kind of content anymore. It’ll be there if I’m ever ready to invest in it, but right now, I’m not. I’m just not that competitive anymore and I get less competitive the older I get.
Well man i am not taking personal jabs... Its a roster issue..a lot happened since u took your break... A lot of dif champs with different abilities and mechanics...TB difficulty is not supposed to be easy... You are alliance free atm... Imagine having to juggle between AQ, AW and then a roster capable to clear content... Don't feel the rush to r4 when u need a lot more r3s At this point for the mats of 1 r4 u can pretty much r3 2 champs almost... Get in an alliance.. get the r4 mats thru AW and Glory store.... The objective rewards are a very small dent...
The real question here is why would Cav players need r4 materials in the first place?
The rewards were always restricted to Thronebreakers so just because it was called Cavalier Difficulty, no Cavaliers were getting them. And anyone who has R3's can be building toward R4's. It's not about needing them since, as has been pointed out 5*R5's can handle just about everything in this game outside of PvP game modes. EQ rewards haven't been particularly overwhelming in quite some time. Cavalier difficulty certainly didn't need a reduction in rewards.
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Its not a matter of being terrible or not... TB difficulty has class and tagged crossfights.. u named synergy and champs that could probably get u by 2 or 3 chapters...
There is no shame on a TB having a difficult time in TB difficulty; but u obviously don't need 1 more r4... U need more r3s to have a diverse roster
You can say it was always intended this way but if that's the case, they could have made the challenge harder than just exploring it as normal like back when you had to do a path using only 4*s.
Also some people here are really talking like they are actively choosing not to use their R4's for this content because the content was designed to be completed with weaker champions. I'm obviously using my R4's for this stuff. They're my best champs. They were my best at Rank 3 and are still my best at R4.
If i have an R4 that meets the challenge i will use him...
For example.. TB difficulty has a protection node that non mystics do 90% less dmg... Am i gonna take my beefy r4 Nimrod to it?... No i will take a mystic r4 that fits the criteria... If i dont have an r4 i will take an r3 or r2...
Now its a complete narrative when someone tells u "Oh i can't get r4 mats anymore from cav eq now i can't complete TB difficulty cause i won't have r4s..." I didn't look u up.. the "power through" comment and the false youtuber statement was a dead giveaway... Hercules is a great champ but makes playstyle extremely lazy.
But also to your point about people using the materials from “easier” content to become paragon, TBs now have more access to those materials than what the paragons who grinded through Cav EQ each month. Remember it would have taken 10 months to form a single R4 that way. Now the fact that the Cav Objective was only implemented in July 2022… means that there was only enough for about half of that. No one who is Paragon now managed to get a full R4 from those objectives alone. Let alone 3 R4s.
Eventually you're going to hit a wall where you will need to further improve your skills and champion knowledge. You'll need to understand how nodes work and how to use them to your advantage. Watch YT videos to help build this base knowledge.
The final thing to keep in mind is that TB EQ has been designed to have a completion run done by a new TB account, while exploration is targeted more at Late TB/paragons.
You aren't going to passively get better at the game. If you really want to get better, you have to find an area where you lack. Once identified, you can practice that area, such as intercepting or reparrying, so you can get the skills needed to do harder content such as TB EQ.
At this point for the mats of 1 r4 u can pretty much r3 2 champs almost...
Get in an alliance.. get the r4 mats thru AW and Glory store.... The objective rewards are a very small dent...