energy management issue

70 energy is super low as compared to content in the game monthly event side quest bg and revive farming . 2 solutions increase energy cap or reduce time to 2m

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Shiroihara

I think we've had a situation for a long time where we were able to do all difficulties of the side quest + some of the lower event quests because there was not much else to do.
Now because we have BGs and TB difficulty, we use up the energy elsewhere, which I don't think it's a bad thing. You end up doing the difficulties you're supposed to do.
Sure, you're missing out on certain rewards, but you also get more from the new content.

Giuliameij

Revive Farming is a choice. If you really need to farm that much you might be doing content that is not appropriate to your skilllevel.
Still.
Energy requirement seems to have increased slightly since they put the sigil in the game. Which gives you quicker energy refreshing. And with battlegrounds, the demand has increased even more.
If they ever did rework the mastery system it might be nice to include a mastery that decreases the energy time by a certain number each time you defeat an enemy in a mode that costs energy.
So you can boost the energy you gain just like the experience masteries increase the amount of exp you get for each fight.

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IvarTheBoneless

Just saying that for some revive farming isnt a choice. I have 100% all content in game except abyss and carinas challenges. Thos are impossible to do itemless (unless you're swedeah). So I need to farm revives all while completing TB eq, side quest and battelgrounds pushing.

A_Fungi

You know, you can use units for revives.

Ironman3000

With the added TB EQ they should make all sidequests free.

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SirGamesBond

Adding couple refills weekly in useless 24 hour events like loyalty spend, ally help etc. will help out big time. .

K00shMaan

The should be enough energy in the game to do all the content each month. However, that should include being in part of an Alliance and opening your free crystals to get that extra energy. Although revive farming is something obviously lots of us do, I think it's fine that the energy spent doing that means that some other things don't get completed. In general though I think the lower difficulties of EQ should have their energy requirement retuned to be more consistent with the rewards they offer.

IvarTheBoneless

Ah yes the good feeling of having zero units for july 4 deals, I'm familiar.

Kabam Jax

Hey Summoners,

Let's chat energy usage.

Up until fairly recently, you could participate in everything the contest had to offer. With the recent addition of some pretty major game modes/content, Summoners are now having to prioritize their participation. This isn't a bad thing, because it means there's more to do! But it has caused discomfort for some people who feel they're not able to do everything and are "missing out on rewards." It's a situation that's in constant flux, and is always being monitored.

To help alleviate this discomfort, the game team provides alternate ways to participate in content that don't require energy. That's why Elders Marks exist in BG and why they are distributed at regular intervals as you progress through the Victory Track.

Furthermore, and this is the biggest one (even if Summoners don't like to hear it), there is an abundance of free-to-access units in the game. They are provided to allow Summoners to buy things like revives and potions and energy refills.

I understand that many Summoners (myself included) want to save units for crystals and champ rolls, but hoarding units instead of using them for revives/potions/energy refills creates a self-imposed knock-on effect of feeling like you have even less energy. When the game team is considering energy usage for Summoners, I can assure you that the energy you use for revive farming (which is not an intentional usage for those paths) is not prioritized.

Coppin

Some day people will understand that free to play comes with a limitation... Buying an energy refill once in a while is part of the game....

Ghost_Fan

Many people hoard units for the cyber weekend offers etc. Not for just champion crystals.
You can't say it's a self imposed knock-off from the moment that you add more and more 'annual' offers.
We have 4th of July, Cyber Weekend, Spring Cleaning and 1 more event I think. And you are gonna get more value out of your units if you spend them there.

Jefechuta

Yeah, and Kabam wants you to buy the units, not farm them, because it is a company that exists to make money lmao.

Ironman3000

TLDR: Spend units on energy so you have to buy them on July 4th and Cyber weekend.

Ghost_Fan

Yeah I get it but Jax also said this:

Abundance is an overstatement to say the least but meh

OGAvenger

I think that’s exactly what he means by a self imposed knock off. You’re choosing to hoard units for specials events instead of using them to grab energy refills. Therefore, now you feel like you don’t have enough energy to complete all available content

Ghost_Fan

I think I didn't phrase it well enough. It's something that I choose to do but it's not something that I choose. These offers have so much better rewards comparing to other aspects of the game, that the units 'worth' more if they are spent there.

I think you could choose a specific champion in the last couple of these events. You can't do this anywhere else in the game. So you are practically forced to hoard your units for this type of events.

Demonzfyre

Psssssttt. Kabam is the developer. They don't make money off your purchase, Netmarble does.

K00shMaan

Yeah but that's all part of resource management which is a vital part of this game. If buying energy refills along the way to complete additional content isn't providing a net benefit then you should do different content in the game. Fully exploring the lower EQs is something I did in December when BG's and revive farming didn't make sense. But this month it's different and I'm funneling energy towards those things. Decisions to do some things and not others is part of what makes the game interesting and allows people to progress in different ways.

jaythekid

Though I don't do all monthly content I see hitting 0 energy as time to get off the game and do something else or grind arena if I have the time.

SummonerNR

How about this (of course you are not gonna like it).
Since you have already explored those paths in ACT 3 (or wherever), how about Kabam remove the “re-spawning” ability of items along paths that have already been completed.

If you are choosing to use all your energy on “otherwise unnecessary quests” just to get some additional revives or such, of course you are not gonna have enough energy to do other things.

Or you could also “farm” for Units instead (Arena, lower EQ quests, etc), and then use those farmed Units to buy those much-wanted Revives (as Jax also mentioned).

Coppin

Exactly the better value is a decision u make..
Now did u ever do a math on the "better value" compared to doing all the content that benefits u?...
The game is free to play.. not free to benefit from everything... Buying energy refills is part of it...
Yes with a new difficulty of EQ, SQ and BGs the energy is a bit tight.. but there are also benefits from it...

Coppin

As much as I agree on most of your points...
It has been a constant that when a new EQ difficulty level appears.. then 2nd highest lvl of difficulty has units... Shouldn't Cav have units as reward with the new TB?

Jefechuta

You can get units infinitely on arenas by getting battlechips lol

Jefechuta

Companies want you to spend, thats why they exist, not because they want you to have fun, lmao, basic economics fam

Ghost_Fan

Theoretically? Yes. Practically? No. If of course you value your life

Ghost_Fan

No I haven't done the math. But when you can choose Hercules from these offers and you can't get him from all the content you've being doing then to my eyes (and to most I would imagine) these offers are a far better value.

Buying energy refills is a part of the game, I do agree. Or at least was. As the time goes on, better offers appear and it makes more sense hoarding your units for these offers.

There is no content at the moment in-game that lets you choose a specific champion. The closest thing is the abyss crystal. But again with that crystal there is a chance to get the champ you are after, it's not guaranteed.

SirGamesBond

Can kabam bring down energy in normal difficulty EQ? EQs are just too Big atm

Crys23

EQ is too damn long. 30 paths per difficulty, 6 fights per path + boss. Same path length and almost as many paths as a full chapter in end-game story content (act 7 & 8).
Early Acts in story content where also too long and too many paths, but you did overhaul them to significantly reduce energy usage.
Now it's time to do the same to EQ. 4 fights per path and 24 paths total should be enough, especially for lower difficulties. Cav and TB can stay the same, but the rest need to be shortened, just like Act 1-3 was.