Viv Vision’s low base stats

GrassKnuckles

This has to be unintended right? I remember when Wong was released they were way to high, is this the opposite?

AMS94

Can be intentional
They probably want u to use her phasing mechanic as a replacement for block
Also her having 16 armors can be an excuse for them to compromise on her base stats
Is it a good change - definitely not....this will further lower her value
Are they that delusional to think this is appropriate - yes

BigBuster

Either it's a bug, or they fear she'll become like Kitty/Ghost/Herc

If that's true, I think they've gone too far. The armors already take ages to come back, and with that abysmal block proficiency she'll be too squishy. She has the base to be a busted champ (phase on parry, easily accessible ~180k burst cycle, very relevant immunities, etc.), so I see why they have to add some weak spots to her kit. They may have pushed it tho

Axew

Modok is already horrible with his 28% block proficiency, 10% is basically negligible damage reduction in comparison

I understand she has a phase mechanic, but she won’t be able to use it throughout the whole fight in many scenarios. The armor ups already take 10 seconds per to restore. And if she can’t use phase, taking blocked hits is basically equivalent to getting hit in the face. I hope they raise it to at least a viable level like 30%.

Sachhyam257

10% block prof is crazy, might aswell just take the hit at that point lmao. I know she has a phase on parry mechanic, but there's surely some downtime when it may not be active.

Edit: just realised the dude above me said the same thing lol, ignore this xD

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Wu_Bangerz23

Axew said:

Modok is already horrible with his 28% block proficiency, 10% is basically negligible damage reduction in comparison

I understand she has a phase mechanic, but she won’t be able to use it throughout the whole fight in many scenarios. The armor ups already take 10 seconds per to restore. And if she can’t use phase, taking blocked hits is basically equivalent to getting hit in the face. I hope they raise it to at least a viable level like 30%.

Watch the deep dive ... They very carefully made sure to not expose her to blocking. In over 100 animations I believe I saw 2-3 block hits get through from a 12k pi longshot and it did almost 300 damage lol.....not crit hits vs similar pi were doing 3-500 damage . It was near the beginning of the deep dive I believe. Might as well not even block

AMS94

The problem with this 10% is that even if they listen to the feedback & buff that number up after 6 months, they'll probably go to 30-40% at max, & may be even lower than that

In present state of the game even that won't be enough

ahmynuts

They definitely went too far with the tanking of her base stats. She won't be viable in most game modes if they stay as is i think, could be wrong though. I want to believe that the numbers are wrong. They should say it's a bug and adjust it because they do that all the time

ahmynuts

Wu_Bangerz23 said:

Axew said:

Modok is already horrible with his 28% block proficiency, 10% is basically negligible damage reduction in comparison

I understand she has a phase mechanic, but she won’t be able to use it throughout the whole fight in many scenarios. The armor ups already take 10 seconds per to restore. And if she can’t use phase, taking blocked hits is basically equivalent to getting hit in the face. I hope they raise it to at least a viable level like 30%.

Watch the deep dive ... They very carefully made sure to not expose her to blocking. In over 100 animations I believe I saw 2-3 block hits get through from a 12k pi longshot and it did almost 300 damage lol.....not crit hits vs similar pi were doing 3-500 damage . It was near the beginning of the deep dive I believe. Might as well not even block

Great catch

Qwerty12345

So low stats... Kind of like Ghost has low stats, or Aegon?

I suggest actually wait to play the champion before trying it. If she still hits like a the proverbial "little girl"... then say something.

AMS94

Qwerty12345 said:

So low stats... Kind of like Ghost has low stats, or Aegon?

I suggest actually wait to play the champion before trying it. If she still hits like a the proverbial "little girl"... then say something.

Champs have low stats but not a single champ is at the level where she's at
Other champs with lower stats in some areas usually have it good in others
She's just low throughout in every category

Lowest block prof.... basically non-existent
Lowest crit rating.... probably won't be a big deal but it's still the lowest in game
8th lowest crit damage
Bottom 10 base health
Average base attack
Base Armor is also pretty low & she loses her armors in her rotation which she then gains back over 150 seconds (2.5 minutes)

And she NEEDS a high sig level for max damage output since almost all of her damage comes through Sp1 energy bursts

And she's almost non usable against non-mutant incinerate immune champs & champs with high energy resistance

legalaction

Apparently new u0d

AMS94 said:

Qwerty12345 said:

So low stats... Kind of like Ghost has low stats, or Aegon?

I suggest actually wait to play the champion before trying it. If she still hits like a the proverbial "little girl"... then say something.

Champs have low stats but not a single champ is at the level where she's at
Other champs with lower stats in some areas usually have it good in others
She's just low throughout in every category

Lowest block prof.... basically non-existent
Lowest crit rating.... probably won't be a big deal but it's still the lowest in game
8th lowest crit damage
Bottom 10 base health
Average base attack
Base Armor is also pretty low & she loses her armors in her rotation which she then gains back over 150 seconds (2.5 minutes)

How dare you make an informed opinion based off objective data.




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I agree with you