delete hercules from game

Dts

you can nerf revive farm,BUT NOT revive spam, 5 star hercules recoil mastery and boost can do this hard endgame content EOP left and right with ~80 revive.DO you think this is ok?Do you understand that a 5 star destroy this hard content about u speak??????But people have 6star rank 4/5,they can just farm 15 revive and clear 1path in 8.2 8.3 8.4 again farm 15 revive an clear.Other champs need heal when you use a 20%revive but no hercules.Just delete hercules from game

Pikolu

If you need 15 revives to clear a path in 8.2+ with a 6* r4/5 herc, then you should seriously brush up on your skills or choose someone else to bring who'll actually counter the nodes.

Dts

its a example,and u tell about skill here where i tell about hercules delete,continue to troll and dislike guys.Hercules is the real problem

Pikolu

Also if you don't run suicides, then 20% health is more than enough health for a lot of fights in a lot of content. In my EoP runs I commonly would just use a 20% revive because 1 mistake at 60% health would still be enough to kill me.

Dts

i dont understand why text here?i tell hercules is too powerful and break the game need to be deleted and this revive farm nerf change nothing.Kabam tell us about revive spam hard content,but hercules is only one who spam this 20% revive,other champs need heal

AMS94

1. Story content doesn't need revive spamming & often involves very specific counters
2. Carinas Vol. 1 & 2 can't be done by Hercules & revive spamming
3. Well designed Abyss & Labyrinth style content can't be done with Hercules & revive spamming
4. Even with Hercules only an extreme minority of players are able to push for Zone 25 in incursions & it still requires a lot of units to do that
5. Grief Incarnate EOP can be done with Herc & revive spamming but there are no rewards for doing that
6. First 4 fights of both EOP paths are the only endgame content that is being done with Herc & revive spamming, & even for that it takes a lot less revive spamming to clear those 4 fights than the 5 that come after........People spam more revives for next 5 fights than first 4, & that is bcoz the fights + objectives are intentionally designed in a way that makes u spam revives, not bcoz the players aren't good enough to do it
7. Even if a champ requires healing after being revived, it's still considered as revive spamming.....the only difference is that now u're also spamming potions over those revives

The entire theme of Carinas Challenges has been about spamming revives since Volume 1
Same theme has been followed here as well & that's why people are spamming revives to clear it

The problem is neither Hercules nor spamming revives
The problem is the content that is deliberately designed to make players spam revives & potions

Design content that doesn't require 50 revives to clear & players won't need to farm 50 revives
Don't act shocked when players spam revives in a content that is designed to spam revives

Batman_bruce31

The problem here is ....
You don't have a Hercules

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Dts

my text is to kabam,not to you toxic trolls who just want to save this cheater hercules in game.I dont have 6 star hercules,but 5 star was enough to do 2 runs in 80 20%revive to see what he can,and after do all carina every time spend ~20 20%revive to clear dormamu bishop cross and overseer.A 5 star hero who destroy a 7stars top ENDGAME content.You can nerf revive farm but people can do first 4 fight in eop with free revive with hercules,this nerf change nothing,Hercules is the main problem.No more text from me here

Chobbly

Deleting wouldn't solve anything. A lot of players have put a lot of effort into their champions, levelling them up and putting Sig stones into them. Hercules is the same.

But, at the same time, I don't think anyone could argue that Hercules is one of the most powerful champions in the game and because of his Immortality Buff is naturally suited to the revive-spam gameplay which is being debated elsewhere. His kit is also tailored to take advantage of Suicide Masteries too.

OP, you may find your arguments have more support if you requested an adjustment to a couple of his abilities instead.

Shiroihara

You are absolutely right. All this removing revive farming, etc are half measures.
If they really want to lose all players and kill the game, then delete Hercules. Then we all go on with our lives after the sick dog has been put down.

AMS94

Can anyone explain how will removing or nerfing Hercules solve the revive spam problem ???
We'll still need to spam revives....may be even more than what we already do with him
The only change will be that we'll also need to spam health potions in addition to those revives

Keltan

Oh boy why suddenly so many discussion on Hercules.... ??

Shiroihara

Keltan said:

Oh boy why suddenly so many discussion on Hercules.... ??

My guess is that it has to do with YouTubers posting videos about the revive nerf and blaming Herc.
Get out the pitchforks and don't forget to click the like button.

PRIMUUS

Dts said:

you can nerf revive farm,BUT NOT revive spam, 5 star hercules recoil mastery and boost can do this hard endgame content EOP left and right with ~80 revive.DO you think this is ok?Do you understand that a 5 star destroy this hard content about u speak??????But people have 6star rank 4/5,they can just farm 15 revive and clear 1path in 8.2 8.3 8.4 again farm 15 revive an clear.Other champs need heal when you use a 20%revive but no hercules.Just delete hercules from game

clearly a skill issue here but blame it on Herc when you litterally have ZERO (0) arguments

Syndicated

Dts said:

you can nerf revive farm,BUT NOT revive spam, 5 star hercules recoil mastery and boost can do this hard endgame content EOP left and right with ~80 revive.DO you think this is ok?Do you understand that a 5 star destroy this hard content about u speak??????But people have 6star rank 4/5,they can just farm 15 revive and clear 1path in 8.2 8.3 8.4 again farm 15 revive an clear.Other champs need heal when you use a 20%revive but no hercules.Just delete hercules from game

80 revives? With Hercules???? What???

I Guess are You taking the 4* Champ right?

Badah

Dts said:

i dont understand why text here?i tell hercules is too powerful and break the game need to be deleted and this revive farm nerf change nothing.Kabam tell us about revive spam hard content,but hercules is only one who spam this 20% revive,other champs need heal

I don’t have Hercules, and I’ve spammed 20% revives without healing until I completed act 8.1
This looks like that post “Nerf Hercules or give everyone a 7* Hercules”, Lol

Sarvanga1_

Delete Hercules
then delete kitty
then delete cgr
then delete shang chi
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Then finally delete the game itself. No game no revive spamming.

LesktheGlut_666

Dts said:

its a example,and u tell about skill here where i tell about hercules delete,continue to troll and dislike guys.Hercules is the real problem

If you look at the reactions to your post I think it's you who has the problem lol

Bulmkt

Dts said:

you can nerf revive farm,BUT NOT revive spam, 5 star hercules recoil mastery and boost can do this hard endgame content EOP left and right with ~80 revive.DO you think this is ok?Do you understand that a 5 star destroy this hard content about u speak??????But people have 6star rank 4/5,they can just farm 15 revive and clear 1path in 8.2 8.3 8.4 again farm 15 revive an clear.Other champs need heal when you use a 20%revive but no hercules.Just delete hercules from game

That’s the most unhinged comment on the forums today

PowerOfACandle

Delete your game id.

Gildarts99

Bulmkt said:

Dts said:

you can nerf revive farm,BUT NOT revive spam, 5 star hercules recoil mastery and boost can do this hard endgame content EOP left and right with ~80 revive.DO you think this is ok?Do you understand that a 5 star destroy this hard content about u speak??????But people have 6star rank 4/5,they can just farm 15 revive and clear 1path in 8.2 8.3 8.4 again farm 15 revive an clear.Other champs need heal when you use a 20%revive but no hercules.Just delete hercules from game

That’s the most unhinged comment on the forums today

seriously.

Aomine_Daiki10

All I see is a cry baby that cannot pull Hercules and is pained people who have him are enjoying the champion.

GinjabredMonsta

Herc is a big part of the problem but not the only one

Colinwhitworth69

AMS94 said:

Design content that doesn't require 50 revives to clear & players won't need to farm 50 revives

This.

GK_23

Dts said:

my text is to kabam,not to you toxic trolls who just want to save this cheater hercules in game.I dont have 6 star hercules,but 5 star was enough to do 2 runs in 80 20%revive to see what he can,and after do all carina every time spend ~20 20%revive to clear dormamu bishop cross and overseer.A 5 star hero who destroy a 7stars top ENDGAME content.You can nerf revive farm but people can do first 4 fight in eop with free revive with hercules,this nerf change nothing,Hercules is the main problem.No more text from me here

This last sentence of the last response was the only thing written by the OP that I could agree with.

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Adevati

This is silly.

When Kabam doesn’t want us to Quake. They add a True Strike, or AA reduction node (or champs with these skills as defenders). Problem solved.

When Kabam doesn’t want us to Herc. They add an AA reduction node (or AA reduction defenders) or buff nullify or buff immunity node.

If Kabam doesn’t add these nodes, then they know Quake/Herc is an option and they are effectively saying they are OK with it.

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AMS94

Adevati said:

This is silly.

When Kabam doesn’t want us to Quake. They add a True Strike, or AA reduction node (or champs with these skills as defenders). Problem solved.

When Kabam doesn’t want us to Herc. They add an AA reduction node (or AA reduction defenders) or buff nullify or buff immunity node.

If Kabam doesn’t add these nodes, then they know Quake/Herc is an option and they are effectively saying they are OK with it.

They intentionally added champion switch nodes on both paths of EOP
That node implies that they are OK with players using Herc & revive spamming for first 4 fights
What they aren't OK with is players spamming revives farmed from 3.2.6 instead of revives bought from units......which is the reason for this revive nerf situation
Not Hercules, not spamming, but their belief that by doing this they can earn a little extra revenue....which I
seriously doubt as noone wants to spend money on revives except.... probably not even the whales
This will just give rise to more Act 6 like situations
Back then players refused to do Act 6, which forced Kabam to nerf it twice
With this change players will refuse to do any future content that will require revive spamming