How is he not #metal?

Captain_Spasm

Some champs have far less obvious metallic objects in their costumes and get the #metal tag, so I’m curious as to how this guy avoids it? They haven’t done a very good job of explaining it away in his info, so I assume it’s just a case of not wanting to add another easy Magneto target and not caring enough to explain how it’s not #metal 🤷‍♂️

Terra

Someone is annoyed they can't use Magneto to cheese him 😏

Captain_Spasm

Terra said:

Someone is annoyed they can't use Magneto to cheese him 😏

Considering Herc can do it in less than 30 hits, I wouldn’t even consider Mags a “cheese”. It’s just a genuine question that you obviously can’t answer.

InsaneSkull

It's up to game developers whom they want to give tags. Don't think too much.

Daddrieda

I recall it was MARVEL that decides to tagging for kabam to use?

LeNoirFaineant

InsaneSkull said:

It's up to game developers whom they want to give tags. Don't think too much.

Do the tags have no relation to the physical attributes of the champs? If they tagged spider gwen as metal would that be fine?

GrampaDan

It's most likely just a balancing thing. Considering anyone who's metal pretty much gets rinsed by Mags its not the greatest for balance to just give everyone who has bits of metal the tag.

SirGamesBond

Terra said:

Someone is annoyed they can't use Magneto to cheese him 😏

Tigra is taking him out in one sp2.
Mags is way too slow... No cheeze required
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Are those vibranium. How does he get access to vibranium... Comic noob here, no idea who is he or if those are metal or not.

Ironside47

In arena I’m forever being coerced by selections into using Magneto against Superior Iron Man.

Shiroihara

LeNoirFaineant said:

InsaneSkull said:

It's up to game developers whom they want to give tags. Don't think too much.

Do the tags have no relation to the physical attributes of the champs? If they tagged spider gwen as metal would that be fine?

It would be and you’d keep on playing because we have zero say in it.
Fortunately, it makes certain sense. All champions having the tag, have some metallic base to them. But not all the champions that have metal are tagged.

As others have pointed out, the game places balance ahead of logic or it would be chaos.

BigPoppaCBONE

There are already too many #metal champs and you're wanting another one?

CyborgNinja135

Short answer: Because Kabam doesn't want to keep feeding Magneto

Long answer: At some point in the comics Shocker upgraded his tech so that the shockwave emitters were located in his suit instead of the gauntlets, but he just wore them as a way to trick Spider-Man and any other heroes. Following Kabam's logic that if it can be dropped with ease in the middle of the fight, it's not #metal. Then you could say that if shocker was using his upgraded suit, getting rid of the gauntlets would not affect his abilities at all. Ofc this entire theory is easily disproved by the fact that in-game, Shocker's blasts actually seem to come from his gauntlets. Or maybe it's part of his ruse...

johnlaw3742

ChatGPT answers this one:
In Marvel Comics, Shocker's gauntlets are made out of a specially designed vibro-shock material that can generate powerful concussive waves. The gauntlets are equipped with generators that convert compressed air into powerful shockwaves, allowing Shocker to deliver devastating blows or vibrations to his opponents or surrounding objects. The exact composition of the vibro-shock material is not specified in the comics.

LordSmasher

johnlaw3742 said:

ChatGPT answers this one:
In Marvel Comics, Shocker's gauntlets are made out of a specially designed vibro-shock material that can generate powerful concussive waves. The gauntlets are equipped with generators that convert compressed air into powerful shockwaves, allowing Shocker to deliver devastating blows or vibrations to his opponents or surrounding objects. The exact composition of the vibro-shock material is not specified in the comics.

Is there nothing AI can't do?

Kerneas

This is purely a game balance thing. Ofc he is metal, but doesn't have the tag, because Kabam doesn't want him to be Magneto food.

Also, since White Megneto is bleed immune, bcs he can stop bleeding using the iron in his blood, it is pointless to apply any logic here. For gameplay reasons, some champs aren't #Metal. We gotta accept it

SHIELD4AGENT

I don't mind him not having the #metal, he's so squishy anyway why bother.

Ngoalong711

this guy dies too fast for me to think of mag

TheSaith

He's not metal for sure, his suit can't be metal but of something shock proof typo thing , and his gauntlets must be alien tech not just magnetic you know.

Magrailothos

Loads of metal aren't magnetic - Copper, Silver, Gold for starters. They don't interact with magnetism.

In the context of MCOC the #Metal tag doesn't really mean 'metal'. It means 'Ferrous', or 'a metal subject to being magnetised'.

Vibranium is clearly a metal; but BPCW, Killmonger, and Shuri aren't subject to magnetism.

Whatever metal is used by the Tech members of the Guardians of the Galaxy (Rocket, Star Lord, Yondu) clearly isn't magnetic either. Despite Yondu having a cybernetic fin on his head, and Rocket having cybernetic implants.

It's perfectly acceptable to state that whatever Shocker used to build his gauntlets isn't subject to magnetism.

It would be be a nice tweak if Dr Octopus lost his #Metal tag, too... 😉

Captain_Spasm

BigPoppaCBONE said:

There are already too many #metal champs and you're wanting another one?

I don’t know what you’ve been reading, but no where in my post was I demanding or wanting another #metal champ, it was simply just a question out of curiosity.

Some good answers in here that shed some light on the subject, but it’s probably just a case of Kabam randomly picking and choosing and not having any idea or method in their tag selecting process.

Misty Knight’s Vibranium arm somehow gets her the #metal tag.

Captain_Spasm

Magrailothos said:

Loads of metal aren't magnetic - Copper, Silver, Gold for starters. They don't interact with magnetism.

In the context of MCOC the #Metal tag doesn't really mean 'metal'. It means 'Ferrous', or 'a metal subject to being magnetised'.

Vibranium is clearly a metal; but BPCW, Killmonger, and Shuri aren't subject to magnetism.

Whatever metal is used by the Tech members of the Guardians of the Galaxy (Rocket, Star Lord, Yondu) clearly isn't magnetic either. Despite Yondu having a cybernetic fin on his head, and Rocket having cybernetic implants.

It's perfectly acceptable to state that whatever Shocker used to build his gauntlets isn't subject to magnetism.

It would be be a nice tweak if Dr Octopus lost his #Metal tag, too... 😉

Yes, I agree. My main point is that they have done nothing to explain it away. If they said something like “his gauntlets, that are made of copper” in his bio, this conversation wouldn’t be happening.

Kerneas

Captain_Spasm said:

BigPoppaCBONE said:

There are already too many #metal champs and you're wanting another one?

I don’t know what you’ve been reading, but no where in my post was I demanding or wanting another #metal champ, it was simply just a question out of curiosity.

Some good answers in here that shed some light on the subject, but it’s probably just a case of Kabam randomly picking and choosing and not having any idea or method in their tag selecting process.

Misty Knight’s Vibranium arm somehow gets her the #metal tag.

You seem to have completely missed the point. It's not random at all, Kabam select which champs will be #metal with the game balance in mind.

This champion isn't seen as "Shocker", it is seen as "non-#metal Tech". Same case for Misty. She isn't "Misty Knight", she is "#metal Skill". It doesn't matter who the champ is in this context. Kabam planned to add a "non-#metal Tech" in April 2023, because in their opinion, the game needed another such champ. And it doesn't matter if the champ is Shocker, Prowler, Thinker or another Iron-man.

SirGamesBond

Just realised he is dying so fast due to foresight and the attack boost we are getting.

Captain_Spasm

Kerneas said:

Captain_Spasm said:

BigPoppaCBONE said:

There are already too many #metal champs and you're wanting another one?

I don’t know what you’ve been reading, but no where in my post was I demanding or wanting another #metal champ, it was simply just a question out of curiosity.

Some good answers in here that shed some light on the subject, but it’s probably just a case of Kabam randomly picking and choosing and not having any idea or method in their tag selecting process.

Misty Knight’s Vibranium arm somehow gets her the #metal tag.

You seem to have completely missed the point. It's not random at all, Kabam select which champs will be #metal with the game balance in mind.

This champion isn't seen as "Shocker", it is seen as "non-#metal Tech". Same case for Misty. She isn't "Misty Knight", she is "#metal Skill". It doesn't matter who the champ is in this context. Kabam planned to add a "non-#metal Tech" in April 2023, because in their opinion, the game needed another such champ. And it doesn't matter if the champ is Shocker, Prowler, Thinker or another Iron-man.

What? That is just ridiculous. If they’re not intending on explaining why a metal champ isn’t tagged #metal or why a non metal champ is tagged #metal, that’s pretty much the definition of random.

Skunkcabbage

He's not metal for the same reason Corvus and Cull aren't villains.

CyborgNinja135

TheSaith said:

He's not metal for sure, his suit can't be metal but of something shock proof typo thing , and his gauntlets must be alien tech not just magnetic you know.

They aren't alien tech. They were designed by Shocker himself

ItsDamien

CyborgNinja135 said:

TheSaith said:

He's not metal for sure, his suit can't be metal but of something shock proof typo thing , and his gauntlets must be alien tech not just magnetic you know.

They aren't alien tech. They were designed by Shocker himself

Possibly by using Alien tech or metals. The game isn’t necessarily based on any particular media, it is it’s own universe within the multiverse.

CyborgNinja135

ItsDamien said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

TheSaith said:

He's not metal for sure, his suit can't be metal but of something shock proof typo thing , and his gauntlets must be alien tech not just magnetic you know.

They aren't alien tech. They were designed by Shocker himself

Possibly by using Alien tech or metals. The game isn’t necessarily based on any particular media, it is it’s own universe within the multiverse.

Doesn't seem like he was in the RAFT when he first built the gauntlets so having access to alien tech would be nearly impossible

ItsDamien

CyborgNinja135 said:

ItsDamien said:

CyborgNinja135 said:

TheSaith said:

He's not metal for sure, his suit can't be metal but of something shock proof typo thing , and his gauntlets must be alien tech not just magnetic you know.

They aren't alien tech. They were designed by Shocker himself

Possibly by using Alien tech or metals. The game isn’t necessarily based on any particular media, it is it’s own universe within the multiverse.

Doesn't seem like he was in the RAFT when he first built the gauntlets so having access to alien tech would be nearly impossible

You’re basing it off the tools he created while in prison? That’s like basing Ironmans Nanotech suits off the suit he built while trapped in a cave with a box of scraps. There’s nothing that infers that at some point after being in prison that he didn’t then make newer versions.