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Update: Erroneous 'Bundle 1' for Thronebreakers in GWBB

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  • RenaxqqRenaxqq Posts: 1,595 ★★★★
    edited April 2023
    According to Chads like Abs Man LMAO.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,938 ★★★★★

    According to who? Karens and Chads like you?

    -You must be one of the ones who got away with the exploit considering your defending such an obvious drop of the ball.

    I'm Paragon. I didn't even get that offer. I was too busy taking Silver Centurion to R5.
  • MoneyclipMoneyclip Posts: 9
    edited April 2023
    Yesterday I read through the disappointments of some players who spent money to get the bundle.

    It’s very nice from Kabam to let the people keep the shards. (I wasn’t able to get it)

    BUT:
    - it is nearly impossible to take the shards back from the people, because this would mean to get signature levels lower, compensate iso and many more things. So it would be anyhow nearly impossible regarding the effort for Kabam would have to put into this topic.
    - The people who bought packages to spend them for this amazing offer and didn’t have the chance to buy the bundle should be compensated with more bubbles or something else. Most of the people bought the bundle just because of this offer.

    This would be fair in my point of view. Because all the other players wouldn’t have bought the offer anyhow because they were either saving for something else or just weren’t aware of it in the first place.

    This solution would meet both interests and wouldn’t harm anyone.
    Just be aware that it was a mistake and you all can’t request to get an offer back which would change the game immediately. It would be unfair for paragon and thronebreaker players who worked hard to achieve the amount of champions they have right now and would completely change the dynamics, if anyone could get like 10 6* champs within one day.

    Just think of it as an early sign up bonus and congrat the players who were able to be so fast.

    You all wouldn’t blame legend titles for being fast.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,938 ★★★★★
    Jefechuta said:

    Jefechuta said:

    Renaxqq said:

    Jefechuta said:

    Renaxqq said:


    You think this is worse than the 12.0 update?

    Yes. They're telling us that next time there's a glitch you can exploit do it without telling anyone and you might get to keep the rewards
    That actually happened with Mutant Treasure Island. Some got to keep 10 and even more 5* awakening gems.
    Completely different. We knew we weren't supposed to run that quest in that manner. People didn't know what the offers were before they released them on Friday. Not the same at all.
    It doesnt matter since the result is the same
    Exactly. Seems like it's pretty hard to remove extra rewards from players accounts. Maybe almost impossible to track it down. IMO that's why they banned players after MTI exploit. Tried to track down and remove extra rewards.
    They banned players because they knew the quest was broken and they ran it tons of times. It would be the same if they sent an in-game/forum message listing what the rewards were and it specifically stated that this bundle was 1k and then upon release, it was 10k and people took advantage of it.

    These situations are not the same.

    You want them to fix bugs.

    You want them to fix input issues.

    You want them to stop modders.

    You want them to do all these things and now, you want them to probably spend weeks if not longer combing through data to find out what summoners got the extra shards, what champs they pulled, reverse any rank-ups that happened, reverse any resources used like rank up gems or awakening gems, refund any currency used, and re-issue the currency so they buy the proper deal.

    Kabam's solution was the quickest and easiest way to deal with it. Don't worry, in a few weeks you'll find something else to be mad at.
    Anything that gives advantage to an amount of players due to a bug, must be either fixed, compensated or enabled for everybody.
    According to who? Karens and Chads like you?
    Lol, according to common sense, seems like its something that you dont have clearly

    By the way, they did fix it. So that takes care of it according to you.
  • GrandmabunzGrandmabunz Posts: 21

    It's crazy how y'all can't just be happy for your fellow summoners, a few people benefitting from this bug isn't going to affect you in any way. People have been spending money to get ahead since the beginning of the game

    We don’t have a right to be angry that we did not exploit kabam and we got the bad end of the stick? Uhhh. Makes logical sense.
  • JefechutaJefechuta Posts: 1,202 ★★★★

    It's crazy how y'all can't just be happy for your fellow summoners, a few people benefitting from this bug isn't going to affect you in any way. People have been spending money to get ahead since the beginning of the game

    Yeah, we want to spend that money on that Bundle too, so it is fair for everybody
  • MoneyclipMoneyclip Posts: 9
    Jefechuta said:

    Moneyclip said:

    Yesterday I read through the disappointments of some players who spent money to get the bundle.

    It’s very nice from Kabam to let the people keep the shards.

    BUT:
    - it is nearly impossible to take the shards back from the people, because this would mean to get signature levels lower, compensate iso and many more things. So it would be anyhow nearly impossible regarding the effort for Kabam would have to put into this topic.
    - The people who bought packages to spend them for these amazing offer and didn’t have the chance to buy the bundle should be compensated with more bubbles or something else. Most of the people bought the bundle just because of this offer.

    This would be fair in my point of view. Because all the other players wouldn’t have bought the offer anyhow because they were either saving for something else or just weren’t aware of it in the first place.

    This solution would meet both interests and wouldn’t harm anyone.
    Just be aware that it was a mistake and you all can’t request to get an offer back which would change the game immediately. It would be unfair for paragon and thronebreaker players who worked hard to achieve the amount of champions they have right now and would completely change the dynamics, if anyone could get like 10 6* champs within one day.

    Just think of it as an early sign up bonus and congrat the players who were able to be so fast.

    You all wouldn’t blame legend titles for being fast.

    The problem is that this is a bug, a bug that affected a determinated amount of people in the best way, a bug that, as you say yourself, they cant fix since it is very complicated and basically impossible since it affects Shards, Rank Up resources, Sigs and Awakening Gems, so they cant do nothing to get that Shards back, but the fact that they aint going to do anything about it is not a fix, and this is not even something just free, is something you have to pay for, so it is not that bad to enable that Bundle again for the rest of the players, both TB and Paragon, so people can pay for that bundle the same way that "small" amount of players did, THAT would be a fix.

    What would be your solution?
    How should the make it fair for all?

    If anyone would get like 100k 6*shards it would effect more than just rosters. It would effect battlegrounds, alliance wars and many more.

    As it was an error we all can’t blame them for not giving the offer back to everyone. I’m also upset that I wasn’t fast enough. But it is how it is. It would just infect to much and would also make things like completing 8.2 or something else completely irrelevant for a specific time, because all the players would have more champs to rank up and get their rosters on a specific level.

    It would just change the main rosters of all the players (instead of long term paragons).

    Anyhow - the offers the give us these days are pretty damn good and it should help you anyhow!
  • GrandmabunzGrandmabunz Posts: 21
    So what do you plan to do for those of us who gave you actual money and then you quickly took away the offer… what happens regarding that? You know some people spent actual cash just because they saw that offer. And you get to take away the offer, but keep the cash.
  • LokxLokx Posts: 283 ★★★

    So what do you plan to do for those of us who gave you actual money and then you quickly took away the offer… what happens regarding that? You know some people spent actual cash just because they saw that offer. And you get to take away the offer, but keep the cash.

    They have already stated in another thread to open a ticket and request a refund through them, they will refund you as long as you haven’t spent the baubles
  • GrandmabunzGrandmabunz Posts: 21
    Lokx said:

    So what do you plan to do for those of us who gave you actual money and then you quickly took away the offer… what happens regarding that? You know some people spent actual cash just because they saw that offer. And you get to take away the offer, but keep the cash.

    They have already stated in another thread to open a ticket and request a refund through them, they will refund you as long as you haven’t spent the baubles
    Cool thank you must have overlooked that.
  • UsagicassidyUsagicassidy Posts: 1,045 ★★★★
    The *only* way to make this right is to make the erroneous bundle 1 the actual real bundle.

    But they won’t do that because they recognize how “dangerous” it is.

    So they reward a few and punish the rest. How very Kabam.
  • JefechutaJefechuta Posts: 1,202 ★★★★

    The *only* way to make this right is to make the erroneous bundle 1 the actual real bundle.

    But they won’t do that because they recognize how “dangerous” it is.

    So they reward a few and punish the rest. How very Kabam.

    I agree that thats too much, I think the most fair way would be to give that Bugged Bundle but instead of 10k shards, Nexus Mythics
  • ninosninos Posts: 38

    The *only* way to make this right is to make the erroneous bundle 1 the actual real bundle.

    But they won’t do that because they recognize how “dangerous” it is.

    So they reward a few and punish the rest. How very Kabam.

    How are they punishing you? That is SUCH an overreaction
  • JefechutaJefechuta Posts: 1,202 ★★★★

    The *only* way to make this right is to make the erroneous bundle 1 the actual real bundle.

    But they won’t do that because they recognize how “dangerous” it is.

    So they reward a few and punish the rest. How very Kabam.

    How are they punishing you? That is SUCH an overreaction
    Putting you in a disadvantage
  • Gfu55Gfu55 Posts: 3


    This is common sense.

    Kabam you need to make this right for anyone who is TB who did not exploit that offer. Can you not for once reward us honest players who don’t try to exploit your errors? Why not reward us honest players who spend real time and money and don’t try to exploit you every time you drop the ball. I’ve played for 8 years and I’m honestly at my wits end with how unfair you guys are about this stuff. This will cause imbalance in war and BG. More people got it than you’re letting on. But since the issue is too hard to fix, reward the rest of us who actually did not exploit your bug. Be fair. For once. I get mistakes happen, but I do expect the resolution to be fair for everyone. And this is not.

    We deserve fairness. Negative shards or compensation for the rest of players (not just tb) are fair solutions. Doing nothing isn’t.
    I prefer the second but at least something fair. As a recent tb this could have doubled the size of my 6 star roster. It’s a massive advantage for some players at the same progression as me.

    I went from being excited about this event to feeling disappointed and like I got shafted. No way I’m buying a deal to get a quarter of what others got for free.

    Hopefully on Monday they will have time to come up with a better solution.


  • Gfu55Gfu55 Posts: 3
    Btw first post :)
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,230 ★★★★★
    They don't owe every Player compensation because some people got extra through a glitch. It isn't a Small Claims Court. There's no pain and suffering to argue in that.
  • Gfu55Gfu55 Posts: 3

    They don't owe every Player compensation because some people got extra through a glitch. It isn't a Small Claims Court. There's no pain and suffering to argue in that.

    We don’t know the actual percentage of tb that took advantage of this mistake. But judging by my alliance, about a third. I think that is a significant disadvantage. But I know you like to argue with everyone so I won’t go on and on about this, just wanted to give my opinion.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,938 ★★★★★
    Jefechuta said:

    The *only* way to make this right is to make the erroneous bundle 1 the actual real bundle.

    But they won’t do that because they recognize how “dangerous” it is.

    So they reward a few and punish the rest. How very Kabam.

    How are they punishing you? That is SUCH an overreaction
    Putting you in a disadvantage
    How do you know you're at a disadvantage? You don't know who got the shards. You don't know what champs were pulled, if any. You don't know if they play BG's hardcore or are casual. You don't have any information other than some people got extra shards. You may never come across any of these players period in your time. And you'll never know exactly because they are just regular accounts. You aren't at a disadvantage. It's just something you've made up in your mind to cope with this.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,230 ★★★★★
    Gfu55 said:

    They don't owe every Player compensation because some people got extra through a glitch. It isn't a Small Claims Court. There's no pain and suffering to argue in that.

    We don’t know the actual percentage of tb that took advantage of this mistake. But judging by my alliance, about a third. I think that is a significant disadvantage. But I know you like to argue with everyone so I won’t go on and on about this, just wanted to give my opinion.
    Your Alliance isn't representative of the entire Player base, though.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,938 ★★★★★

    The *only* way to make this right is to make the erroneous bundle 1 the actual real bundle.

    But they won’t do that because they recognize how “dangerous” it is.

    So they reward a few and punish the rest. How very Kabam.

    So you want to relive Gauntlet all over again? Remember how it was supposed to only come back for those that didn't do it etc..? How can they make your idea work without messing it up? And in what time frame? It'll take weeks to figure out who got it and how are they going to activate it for those that didn't?
  • Crine60Crine60 Posts: 1,391 ★★★★
    I just find it ridiculous that they can make, and allow to stand, a mistake like that based on the justification that it was only a small number of people but then don't back that up with real numbers they must have to be able to honestly make that statement. They make the periodic promises of more transparency and then more recently invoked it again with them saying they wanted to start providing us some actual numbers with things like cheaters detected and dealt with etc. Why doesn't that apply here?

    It is pretty hard to trust a statement like that without real numbers being provided.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Posts: 20,938 ★★★★★
    Jefechuta said:

    Jefechuta said:

    The *only* way to make this right is to make the erroneous bundle 1 the actual real bundle.

    But they won’t do that because they recognize how “dangerous” it is.

    So they reward a few and punish the rest. How very Kabam.

    How are they punishing you? That is SUCH an overreaction
    Putting you in a disadvantage
    How do you know you're at a disadvantage? You don't know who got the shards. You don't know what champs were pulled, if any. You don't know if they play BG's hardcore or are casual. You don't have any information other than some people got extra shards. You may never come across any of these players period in your time. And you'll never know exactly because they are just regular accounts. You aren't at a disadvantage. It's just something you've made up in your mind to cope with this.
    It doesnt matter lol, 20 6* are more than 2 6*, thats disadvantage enough
    Not everyone got 20. Some only got what they had for F2p as well. Again, your FOMO is causing you to exaggerate again.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,230 ★★★★★
    Crine60 said:

    I just find it ridiculous that they can make, and allow to stand, a mistake like that based on the justification that it was only a small number of people but then don't back that up with real numbers they must have to be able to honestly make that statement. They make the periodic promises of more transparency and then more recently invoked it again with them saying they wanted to start providing us some actual numbers with things like cheaters detected and dealt with etc. Why doesn't that apply here?

    It is pretty hard to trust a statement like that without real numbers being provided.

    It was open for 40 minutes, limited to the amount of people who were Thronebreaker, and online at that moment. Not hard to see how it was a small number.
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