Why do you think we've seen a sharp decline in new mutant champs?

GMAX77

This is most definitely a speculation thread, but why do you think we've seen such a sharp decrease in new mutant champs? None this year, and only 3 in 2022. Personally I would get a kick out of Kabam folding this into the in-game storyline and doing their version of Decimation and House of M, but well see. That's just my thoughts. What about you?

Qacob

The mutant class exploded some time ago and became too powerful

The mutant class was head and shoulders above all others when apoc and prof X were added. New mutants will be back, but the other classes are just catching up right now.

ElMelloi

The mutant class exploded some time ago and became too powerful

we need more mutants

GeneralMerce

The mutant class exploded some time ago and became too powerful

shocker wants to feast on more mutants

Typhoon

The mutant class exploded some time ago and became too powerful

Probably the same reason why there's no new cosmic champs in this featured xtal.

rockykoston

Nimrod and Omega Sentinal erridicate mutants too easily

Mutant class is still OP.
So OP that its difficult to decide which mutant to rank up.

and yes they want to bring up other classes and Nimrod shocks the mutants way harder than they expected. So, no more mutants for now.

Chikel

Scarlet Witch said "No more mutants" and poof

rockykoston said:

Mutant class is still OP.
So OP that its difficult to decide which mutant to rank up.

and yes they want to bring up other classes and Nimrod shocks the mutants way harder than they expected. So, no more mutants for now.

No it's not. It's difficult to decide because there aren't any to rank up.

Kerneas

The mutant class exploded some time ago and became too powerful

Not saying we don't need more of them, but the class has really everything. Even if you subtract the most insane champs like Magento and Apoc, the class still offers everything. Everest content? Got you covered (Stryfe). Quick burst? Say no more (Sunspot). Or DoT? Sure (AA, Toad). Immunity? Emma, Omega. Defense? WpnX, Bishop, Sauron. Big SPs? Bishop, Gambit, Sunapot...

I could go on an on, but there isn't much of space that this class doesn't cover

GinjabredMonsta

Because last year everyone kept screaming no more mutants….

Qwerty12345

because Marvel postponed the next X-men movie, and even champs that should be mutants are now "science experiments" or results of mystic arts.... or are just "skilled martial artists."

then champs that should be cosmic because the power cosmic mutated them... are science because... science class was low on champs (Fantastic 4).

Realistically.. its unfortunately Karnak was a flop on release... the idea of making champs dual class would actually solve a lot of these kinds of debates, as many champs really should be "two", much like how most champs have several tags, including some that are semi-opposite of eachother (merc villiain like Crossbones, Absman, and Taskfaster, merc hero like domino and several others, or how a group of heroes like the X-men can have villains).

Colinwhitworth69

Maybe they’re saving up for when MCU movies start including them?

BigBlueOx

It’s probably worth adding that the most note worthy mutants of the Comics and Movies are already in the game. There is one major exception in Jean Grey (pre-Phoenix/Dark Phoenix) missing, and there is still a wealth of characters to pull from still as well but they are lesser known and I’m sure that makes it harder to identify champs worth developing for the class too.

DNA3000

Kabam typically adds about 24 champs to the game every year. There are six classes, so on average you would expect about four champs of each class per year. This is the actual breakdown, by class, per year (according to Auntm.ai):



I don't really see a steep decline myself. Mutant has sometimes had more champs added than the other classes (2016, 2018) but never the least (Science in 2017, Mystic in 2018, Tech in 2019, Tech again in 2020). If we look at the last three full years (2020 - 2022) Mutant had eleven champs added which is below average, but not the worst: Tech in the same span had nine champs added.

True, in the last two full years Mutant has had the fewest, but in each year it had one less than what you'd expect on average (3, instead of 4) which isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

In terms of total champs in the game, Mutant and Tech are tied, but not for last pace: for second to last place. Mystic is actually the lowest with 38 champs (compared to 40 for Mutant and Tech each). Given that the year isn't over yet, my guess is there are some mutants coming to balance things out.

GroundedWisdom

It's always been an ongoing process, and at any given time you'll find one Class more heavy than others. Eventually, they're all added to. I don't believe it will ever look like an even split.

Kabam Miike

Horseman and Cerebro pre-fights have made it difficult to design balanced mutants

DNA3000 said:

Kabam typically adds about 24 champs to the game every year. There are six classes, so on average you would expect about four champs of each class per year. This is the actual breakdown, by class, per year (according to Auntm.ai):



I don't really see a steep decline myself. Mutant has sometimes had more champs added than the other classes (2016, 2018) but never the least (Science in 2017, Mystic in 2018, Tech in 2019, Tech again in 2020). If we look at the last three full years (2020 - 2022) Mutant had eleven champs added which is below average, but not the worst: Tech in the same span had nine champs added.

True, in the last two full years Mutant has had the fewest, but in each year it had one less than what you'd expect on average (3, instead of 4) which isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

In terms of total champs in the game, Mutant and Tech are tied, but not for last pace: for second to last place. Mystic is actually the lowest with 38 champs (compared to 40 for Mutant and Tech each). Given that the year isn't over yet, my guess is there are some mutants coming to balance things out.

I remember the great Science drought of 2016/2017! What a time... Fun fact, MODOK was going to be Tech, but had his class changed because we didn't have a Science Champ in quite some time.

(Also, my vote in this poll was my personal opinion, not the game team's... I love every mutant, but I love them all even more because of Apocalypse)

Ansh_A

The mutant class exploded some time ago and became too powerful

If you compare class polls from year plus ago then there is a definite trend.

Mutants were considered far and away the best class. Very few.new champions released.

Cosmic was considered to divergent, you had the super usefuls like hyperions, hercules, corvus and cgr and the useless like groot, drax and phoenix. Addition of galan and hulkling has changed that 50-50 perception of the class.

Mystic was considered super useful with lots of champs pitching in but doom snd bwcv were way ahead of others. Enter Rintrah, Juggs gets a buff and now absorbing man.

Science was considered the most unique class. Lots of specific counters but only quake could really be taken in as an allrounder across content. Enter scorpion and spot whose kit works across a wide variety of content.

Skill was all about kingpin, aegon shang chi and nick. There were also a lot of duds in the class which made people hesitate on class selectors. Kabam has really strengthened that second tier skill champs with black cat, mantis and baron zemo.

Tech was far and away the worst class thanks to the various iron men. Now every tech champion has a solid niche - viv vision, shocker, future ant man. The one dud - Shuri was immediately corrected.

Got to give the new content team of Kabam props. They are definitely keeping us engaged while the bugs/issues are making the game a nightmare.

KnightOfTheRealm

Something else entirely

Mutant class is one of the bottom classes currently, we definitely need more champs for it. Particularly champs that don't require much investment. Most of the top mutants need dupe (aa, kitty, omega red, domino, namor, toad, colossus).

spider_man_guy_123

The mutant class exploded some time ago and became too powerful

KnightOfTheRealm said:

Mutant class is one of the bottom classes currently, we definitely need more champs for it. Particularly champs that don't require much investment. Most of the top mutants need dupe (aa, kitty, omega red, domino, namor, toad, colossus).

Aa doesn’t need dupe kitty doesn’t need dupe domino doesn’t NEED dupe, also apoc doesn’t need dupe, bishop, storm x, havok, magneto, professor x. There’s probably more that i am forgetting. Mutant class is top 3 class easily. Also toad and colossus and namor are not “top mutants”

BigBlueOx

Kabam Miike said:

DNA3000 said:

Kabam typically adds about 24 champs to the game every year. There are six classes, so on average you would expect about four champs of each class per year. This is the actual breakdown, by class, per year (according to Auntm.ai):



I don't really see a steep decline myself. Mutant has sometimes had more champs added than the other classes (2016, 2018) but never the least (Science in 2017, Mystic in 2018, Tech in 2019, Tech again in 2020). If we look at the last three full years (2020 - 2022) Mutant had eleven champs added which is below average, but not the worst: Tech in the same span had nine champs added.

True, in the last two full years Mutant has had the fewest, but in each year it had one less than what you'd expect on average (3, instead of 4) which isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

In terms of total champs in the game, Mutant and Tech are tied, but not for last pace: for second to last place. Mystic is actually the lowest with 38 champs (compared to 40 for Mutant and Tech each). Given that the year isn't over yet, my guess is there are some mutants coming to balance things out.

I remember the great Science drought of 2016/2017! What a time... Fun fact, MODOK was going to be Tech, but had his class changed because we didn't have a Science Champ in quite some time.

(Also, my vote in this poll was my personal opinion, not the game team's... I love every mutant, but I love them all even more because of Apocalypse)

Not Cyclops? 🤣

MaxtheSilent

Horseman and Cerebro pre-fights have made it difficult to design balanced mutants

I love the team aspect of mutants.

JChanceH9

The mutant class exploded some time ago and became too powerful

Looking at DNA3000’s list I’m wondering where the mystic are?!?! Cosmic need to cool it for a bit.

Shadowstrike

June is supposed to be a mutant event so looks like you'll be getting more mutants sooner than rather than later.

Renaxqq

The mutant class exploded some time ago and became too powerful

Kabam Miike said:

DNA3000 said:

Kabam typically adds about 24 champs to the game every year. There are six classes, so on average you would expect about four champs of each class per year. This is the actual breakdown, by class, per year (according to Auntm.ai):



I don't really see a steep decline myself. Mutant has sometimes had more champs added than the other classes (2016, 2018) but never the least (Science in 2017, Mystic in 2018, Tech in 2019, Tech again in 2020). If we look at the last three full years (2020 - 2022) Mutant had eleven champs added which is below average, but not the worst: Tech in the same span had nine champs added.

True, in the last two full years Mutant has had the fewest, but in each year it had one less than what you'd expect on average (3, instead of 4) which isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

In terms of total champs in the game, Mutant and Tech are tied, but not for last pace: for second to last place. Mystic is actually the lowest with 38 champs (compared to 40 for Mutant and Tech each). Given that the year isn't over yet, my guess is there are some mutants coming to balance things out.

I remember the great Science drought of 2016/2017! What a time... Fun fact, MODOK was going to be Tech, but had his class changed because we didn't have a Science Champ in quite some time.

(Also, my vote in this poll was my personal opinion, not the game team's... I love every mutant, but I love them all even more because of Apocalypse)

Wish you could tell us some more interesting facts like one with MODOK!

World Eater

Scarlet Witch said "No more mutants" and poof

Coming soon…..

Mutant Spider Man
Mutant Iron Man
Mutant Captain Marvel
Mutant Dooooom

KnightOfTheRealm

Something else entirely

spider_man_guy_123 said:

KnightOfTheRealm said:

Mutant class is one of the bottom classes currently, we definitely need more champs for it. Particularly champs that don't require much investment. Most of the top mutants need dupe (aa, kitty, omega red, domino, namor, toad, colossus).

Aa doesn’t need dupe kitty doesn’t need dupe domino doesn’t NEED dupe, also apoc doesn’t need dupe, bishop, storm x, havok, magneto, professor x. There’s probably more that i am forgetting. Mutant class is top 3 class easily. Also toad and colossus and namor are not “top mutants”

AA, kitty, and domino absolutely need awakening. I didn't even mention apoc or bishop for needing dupe. Colo, Toad, and Namor are top mutants and better than Storm X and Havok, who you listed. Cosmic, Science, Mystic, Skill, and probably Tech are much more valuable than Mutant now.

AMS94

The mutant class exploded some time ago and became too powerful

IMO the Comic class has exploded a lot more than the Mutant class ever did
Not just in terms of quality but also in terms of quantity
Cosmic not only has the most number of champs but almost all comics released recently have been bangers, with Adam & Blue Marvel soon to join the ranks
Classes are pretty unbalanced right now

iDestroyerZ

Kabam Miike said:

DNA3000 said:

Kabam typically adds about 24 champs to the game every year. There are six classes, so on average you would expect about four champs of each class per year. This is the actual breakdown, by class, per year (according to Auntm.ai):



I don't really see a steep decline myself. Mutant has sometimes had more champs added than the other classes (2016, 2018) but never the least (Science in 2017, Mystic in 2018, Tech in 2019, Tech again in 2020). If we look at the last three full years (2020 - 2022) Mutant had eleven champs added which is below average, but not the worst: Tech in the same span had nine champs added.

True, in the last two full years Mutant has had the fewest, but in each year it had one less than what you'd expect on average (3, instead of 4) which isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

In terms of total champs in the game, Mutant and Tech are tied, but not for last pace: for second to last place. Mystic is actually the lowest with 38 champs (compared to 40 for Mutant and Tech each). Given that the year isn't over yet, my guess is there are some mutants coming to balance things out.

I remember the great Science drought of 2016/2017! What a time... Fun fact, MODOK was going to be Tech, but had his class changed because we didn't have a Science Champ in quite some time.

(Also, my vote in this poll was my personal opinion, not the game team's... I love every mutant, but I love them all even more because of Apocalypse)

Is this why your profile pic never change? While ours keep changing from time to time

UnOriginal

Horseman and Cerebro pre-fights have made it difficult to design balanced mutants

World Eater said:

Coming soon…..

Mutant Spider Man
Mutant Iron Man
Mutant Captain Marvel
Mutant Dooooom

Dont forget mutante deadp...oh right

TyEdge

Kabam Miike said:

DNA3000 said:

Kabam typically adds about 24 champs to the game every year. There are six classes, so on average you would expect about four champs of each class per year. This is the actual breakdown, by class, per year (according to Auntm.ai):



I don't really see a steep decline myself. Mutant has sometimes had more champs added than the other classes (2016, 2018) but never the least (Science in 2017, Mystic in 2018, Tech in 2019, Tech again in 2020). If we look at the last three full years (2020 - 2022) Mutant had eleven champs added which is below average, but not the worst: Tech in the same span had nine champs added.

True, in the last two full years Mutant has had the fewest, but in each year it had one less than what you'd expect on average (3, instead of 4) which isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

In terms of total champs in the game, Mutant and Tech are tied, but not for last pace: for second to last place. Mystic is actually the lowest with 38 champs (compared to 40 for Mutant and Tech each). Given that the year isn't over yet, my guess is there are some mutants coming to balance things out.

I remember the great Science drought of 2016/2017! What a time... Fun fact, MODOK was going to be Tech, but had his class changed because we didn't have a Science Champ in quite some time.

(Also, my vote in this poll was my personal opinion, not the game team's... I love every mutant, but I love them all even more because of Apocalypse)

This is the kind of behind the scenes content I’m here for.

Can you tell us how much discussion there was about Goblin science/tech or Falcon tech/skill?

GinjabredMonsta

Because last year everyone kept screaming no more mutants….

Kabam Miike said:

DNA3000 said:

Kabam typically adds about 24 champs to the game every year. There are six classes, so on average you would expect about four champs of each class per year. This is the actual breakdown, by class, per year (according to Auntm.ai):



I don't really see a steep decline myself. Mutant has sometimes had more champs added than the other classes (2016, 2018) but never the least (Science in 2017, Mystic in 2018, Tech in 2019, Tech again in 2020). If we look at the last three full years (2020 - 2022) Mutant had eleven champs added which is below average, but not the worst: Tech in the same span had nine champs added.

True, in the last two full years Mutant has had the fewest, but in each year it had one less than what you'd expect on average (3, instead of 4) which isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of things.

In terms of total champs in the game, Mutant and Tech are tied, but not for last pace: for second to last place. Mystic is actually the lowest with 38 champs (compared to 40 for Mutant and Tech each). Given that the year isn't over yet, my guess is there are some mutants coming to balance things out.

I remember the great Science drought of 2016/2017! What a time... Fun fact, MODOK was going to be Tech, but had his class changed because we didn't have a Science Champ in quite some time.

(Also, my vote in this poll was my personal opinion, not the game team's... I love every mutant, but I love them all even more because of Apocalypse)

So apoc boosts cyclops more than we thought?

Wildblue333

The mutant class exploded some time ago and became too powerful

Well, we know in June there will be new Mutant champs. My money is on Legion and Polaris