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Why is "AI erratic behaviour" still not in the Issue Tracker?
Jefechuta
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I was just playing some BGs just because, and dude, BG bugs aside, AI is way different, it just not working as always used to work, it does:
erratic movements
special intercepts
special while blocking, no matter if it is me or him blocking
taunts debuffs not making AI more agressive
AI stopping a combo in the mid of it and then suddenly continuing it just in time so you cant punish it
AI doing combos right after each one without the pause you would have to do between them, so you cant punish them.
AI doing specials while stunned
AI recovery being way faster than before
AI doing combos in the air, just in the air, you dex the first mid one and the AI just continues erratically
AI holding specials or AI just rushing in all the time.
AI throwing specials in the middle of my combo
Why the hell, this is not in the Issue Tracker, I would love an explanation, it is fine to have bugs in games, its just normal, coding is what it is, sometimes it messes up sometimes it doesnt, but not even acknowledging the fact that those are happening is just outrageous.
And its amazing how this is just random, sometimes the AI works just like it used to work, and sometimes its just mayhem.
It works specially well for Story Content, but in the rest of the content its just random, completely random.
erratic movements
special intercepts
special while blocking, no matter if it is me or him blocking
taunts debuffs not making AI more agressive
AI stopping a combo in the mid of it and then suddenly continuing it just in time so you cant punish it
AI doing combos right after each one without the pause you would have to do between them, so you cant punish them.
AI doing specials while stunned
AI recovery being way faster than before
AI doing combos in the air, just in the air, you dex the first mid one and the AI just continues erratically
AI holding specials or AI just rushing in all the time.
AI throwing specials in the middle of my combo
Why the hell, this is not in the Issue Tracker, I would love an explanation, it is fine to have bugs in games, its just normal, coding is what it is, sometimes it messes up sometimes it doesnt, but not even acknowledging the fact that those are happening is just outrageous.
And its amazing how this is just random, sometimes the AI works just like it used to work, and sometimes its just mayhem.
It works specially well for Story Content, but in the rest of the content its just random, completely random.
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MCOC does indeed generate revenue, however it's also responsible for propping up an overall lackluster kabam unit and a poor performer in parent Netmarble. That's a lot of heavy lifting, revenue-wise.
But hey, jackpot world!
play style changes significantly when fighting AI in AW. when an enemy back you up into corner (when AI refuses to throw a special) they tend to dash in and out, super fast and push you to the wall. forcing dex's and seeing super aggressive gameplay all while not throwing a special. either causing you to mess up, AI gets sp3 due to no special passiveness, or just prolonged fights of specials and attacks hit into block in wall of longer than usual fights.
I doubt that Kabam even has a testing team to test champs/buffs before sending them live
I mean Hawkeye buff can be a prime example
They didn't knew it wasn't working as intended until the playerbase told them
Being so anti Kabam is a beautiful thing, but this thread could've easily been dedicated to people saying "I was reparried by (champion) on node X in AW. I was using (champion) and I don't believe there was any reason this should've happened, or any reasonable way it could've been avoided."
Instead, people decided that general complaints and the same "tech company should do tech company things more" that we hear about every bug under the sun is a better use of their time. You wanna hold Kabam accountable? Stop just saying "Kabam sucks" and keep proving to them that there's something they need to fix. Or don't.
BGs have a lot of bugs, they have it since Season 4 if I remember correctly, after all this Seasons, we got one compensation, the one from a week and half ago, and its just a latency compensation, not the BGs one.
What would be the fair option? Either shut BGs down until players can play without losing resources and matches cause of those, OR, compensate them regularely like they did with Input Issues at first, It doesnt have to be a big compensation, but something like:
"Hey, we know we have this issues, so here you have, 200 Elder Marks, 1 Energy Refill, 1000 Trophy Tokens and have a nice day"
Input Issues are just in the worst moment ever, which is one of the most basic mechanics of the game, just being able to tap the screen, and we stopped getting those regularely compensations, and when we got that, we didnt have BY FAR, the same issues we have know, those were really really light issues, personally, I got affected maybe in 1 or 2 fights out of maybe 100 or 200, but now that it affects maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 or 20, its the moment to give something like I said before, which is not being done.
Okay, I can still understand it at this point, Miike and the rest of the employees are probably not the ones deciding to give those compensations or not, we can understand it, fair, we will go on still and try to play the game the best way we can.
But not acknowledging the issue is completely different, I dont think the way AI recovers or behaves is intentional, since it is waaaaay different that how it used to work at between 2019 and 2022, I dont really remember how it used to be in 2015 that is the time I started playing, but I remember between those years, and it was pretty diferent, it was quite strange for the AI to hold specials if you baited those, I was quite strange for them all agressive unless it was due to taunts or Agressive nodes, it was quite strange for them to just stay back all the time, It was impossible for them to do special intercepts or attack you doing your combos, same with throwing specials while blocking.
My point of view is that something in the code of MCOC affects the AI in a way that it shouldnt, but that makes content to be harder so the players have to use those units on Heals and Revives and Boosts etc, or spend money on them to be able to do so, and they like it that way.
Or maybe they dont want to add more Issues that are this big, since AI is the other basic mechanic within Inputs, since the most basic thing on the game is being able to tap the screen and being able to fight something while doing it, which is the AI.
As always, I only want transparency, just tell us what is going on with it, If its intentional and you want AI to be harder in determinate content, okay, fair, we will deal with it and try to play the way you want us to do, but if its not, and its a bug, I just wanna know why it isnt being acknowledged.
We have the CCB, which is nice, but we need a version of the game where players can really test things, when I say test things I mean to put the official update 1 week before on the beta, that should be the whole point of the beta, to put the same Content you are going to put on the Live one just some time before, maybe a week or 2, so the Beta Testers are able to see the bugs or the issues that those updates will bring.
That way you can keep putting patches of Input Issues tests, AI tests, Events tests, Objectives and Missions tests, Store Tests, and all the things that usually get bugged in every update.
I dont think thats the way you are treating CCB, but I think it is the way it should be treated, if any of the CCB players read this and Its already this way, then I apologize, but let us know please, a lot of times players feel like it doesnt matter what issues we experience.
And the same way I like to say "Hey Kabam, thanks a lot, well done", I think it is fair to say that this is not a good job at all, or it doesnt feel like it
Over the past week I've seen many posts claiming that the opponent has thrown their specials without even a bar of power or has reparried them when striking into their block with a combo, but I have yet to see a video of either of those actually happening. Not in my own gameplay, not in the hundreds of hours of YouTube videos and livestreams from Seatin, Brain Grant, Karatemike, etc. and especially not here on the forums. It's impossible to fix either of those things without a solid cause, and the executives at Kabam aren't going to drop tens of millions of dollars hiring beta testers.
So if players are encountering issues and have any desire for them to be fixed, there are ways of making that happen, and complaining that it hasn't happened yet when contributing nothing but agreement or disagreement to the issue just isn't helpful. Like I said from the beginning: if you don't want to do it, then don't. But if you would like to contribute, then anything from a description of who you were fighting and where to a video of the interaction happening could go a long way.
Just look at the Cassie Lang thread. People wanted her to be fixed, so they made a dedicated thread to the issue, provided video evidence and lists and descriptions of each issue and their likely cause. Kabam responded saying they already knew of some of her issues and were working on a fix, but due to the videos shown in the thread, they found another issue and began working on that as well. How could Kabam possibly put that same amount of work into an issue as convoluted as this one when generic "AI is bad please fix" requests are being pushed to the top page every day?
I know I, as a player, don't have the option to do either.
I'm not sure if they're a bug or just coded into the game, but the AI certainly seems to have more tricks up its sleeve lately than the player has options and availability to mirror or counter...
This is the AI: air attack-air attack-air attack-DASH IN for a successful hit.
I know how to dex, this is just cheap tactics.
Btw why fo we have to do the work? (that, again, it s already out there, and the company obviously knows.) What s CCPs job? I want to just, play a game in my spare time, that s why I downloaded it 6 years ago.