What was the thinking behind voting Knull?

KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Member Posts: 951 ★★★
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Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.
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  • Savage123456789Savage123456789 Member Posts: 807 ★★★
    I voted for Sersi even though I knew Knull would win by a mile. It’s about long term use. Right now, IMO, a 7* Sersi is like a 7* gamora. She would be insane right now, but will she stand the test of time when 7* are more common and health pools in quests are updated to match that? Knull even has a carina challenge dedicated to him. It’s about resource management. Knull usually needs specific counters in AW based on his regular placement. Sersi has a lot of mystics that can shred her even if she can punish you greatly if you mess up. For longevity purposes, I feel like Knull is better looking at the current state of the game. Who knows what happens in the next few months that would shift the dynamic to Sersi more. I also think this is a similar reason to why warlock beat OS. OS has a higher damage ceiling, but she’s AI dependent. How many times do you see people post complains about AI being passive? So many purify nodes in quests. Warlock has a slightly above average damage and lots of important utilities. He’s less stressful to play. On paper, he sounds like the more safe bet to pull when you know it will be a very long time before you can get another titan crystal. Doesn’t need awakening either, maybe for defense to be annoying.
  • Ackbar67Ackbar67 Member Posts: 455 ★★★★
    Never got knull as a 6* and he looks cool. Plus, you can't get dupe or sigs on him if he's not even available
  • World EaterWorld Eater Member Posts: 3,773 ★★★★★
    Not that I would’ve voted but who were the choices ?
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 5,611 ★★★★★
    Cyta said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.

    I have no chance to get the titan crystal, and i dont want to face a 7* sersi in BGs :))
    Don’t need Titan crystal when he’ll be in the basic in December
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 5,611 ★★★★★
    World Eater said:

    Not that I would’ve voted but who were the choices ?

    Knull, Sersi, Medusa, KG
  • Crys23Crys23 Member Posts: 844 ★★★★
    Knull's sig gives you some cool utility in certain matchups but mostly just saves you time. To get to 15 living abyss with an unduped knull takes 15-20 seconds. And like someone above said, to dupe and sig him up, first he must be available. The sooner the better. Same reason people should've voted for Omega Red.
  • SuelGamesSuelGames Member Posts: 947 ★★★
    Sersi is a good defender and nothing more.

    Knull was a good defender until a while ago
    Knull is resistent to degen
    Knull is your guy for Come out to Play Carina Challenge

    Guess there s no debate here..

    Ps: I would have voted for Medusa, i just love to use her against robots. Also great against annoying caustic temper node
  • RenaxqqRenaxqq Member Posts: 1,647 ★★★★
    Knull looks badass!
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Knull good
  • DeaconDeacon Member Posts: 4,271 ★★★★★
    FiiNCH said:

    SuelGames said:

    Sersi is a good defender and nothing more.

    Knull was a good defender until a while ago
    Knull is resistent to degen
    Knull is your guy for Come out to Play Carina Challenge

    Guess there s no debate here..

    Ps: I would have voted for Medusa, i just love to use her against robots. Also great against annoying caustic temper node

    You’re completely wrong about Sersi. She’s a great attacker who can do massive damage quickly and consistently. If you doubt me, watch some of bittersteel’s videos.
    THIS. i recently discovered her offensive prowess after using her primarily on defense. she's quite good.
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,470 ★★★★★
    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.

    While I voted Sersi for this reason, I also play the long game with this stuff and know that at some point we will be adding sigs to 7s champs.
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,492 ★★★★
    You would have to ask this question on Twitter where the voting happened since it seems many people on the forums don't use Twitter.
  • 007Bishop007Bishop Member Posts: 502 ★★★
    edited June 2023
    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.

    Because knull needs neither max sig nor the dupe? Have you seen the damage and utility an unduped knull has? His dupe literally just shortens his ramp up by like 5-6 heavies and gives him the ability to deal with regen once the opponent has gone below a certain health threshold, but it's nothing special. An unduped knull is leagues above everyone in the poll
  • KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Member Posts: 951 ★★★
    007Bishop said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.

    Because knull needs neither max sig nor the dupe? Have you seen the damage and utility an unduped knull has? His dupe literally just shortens his ramp up by like 5-6 heavies and gives him the ability to deal with regen once the opponent has gone below a certain health threshold, but it's nothing special. An unduped knull is leagues above everyone in the poll
    Totally, are you going to tell me how herc is the best defender in the game next?
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    007Bishop said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.

    Because knull needs neither max sig nor the dupe? Have you seen the damage and utility an unduped knull has? His dupe literally just shortens his ramp up by like 5-6 heavies and gives him the ability to deal with regen once the opponent has gone below a certain health threshold, but it's nothing special. An unduped knull is leagues above everyone in the poll
    I agree with everything you’ve said up until the last sentence.

    You could make an argument for any one of these champions. But no, Knull doesn’t need the dupe or max sig.
  • 007Bishop007Bishop Member Posts: 502 ★★★
    KnightOfTheRealm said:



    007Bishop said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.

    Because knull needs neither max sig nor the dupe? Have you seen the damage and utility an unduped knull has? His dupe literally just shortens his ramp up by like 5-6 heavies and gives him the ability to deal with regen once the opponent has gone below a certain health threshold, but it's nothing special. An unduped knull is leagues above everyone in the poll
    Totally, are you going to tell me how herc is the best defender in the game next?
    It's honestly not my problem if you think knull needs dupe or the sigs. I have done abyss runs with an unduped knull. Maybe next time actually use the champ before you make a post?
  • 007Bishop007Bishop Member Posts: 502 ★★★
    BitterSteel said:

    007Bishop said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.

    Because knull needs neither max sig nor the dupe? Have you seen the damage and utility an unduped knull has? His dupe literally just shortens his ramp up by like 5-6 heavies and gives him the ability to deal with regen once the opponent has gone below a certain health threshold, but it's nothing special. An unduped knull is leagues above everyone in the poll
    I agree with everything you’ve said up until the last sentence.

    You could make an argument for any one of these champions. But no, Knull doesn’t need the dupe or max sig.
    You can't really make an argument for an unduped KG or Medusa compared to an unduped Knull. Maybe sersi but most would still go with Knull considering where the game is headed towards rn. King groot's USP is his regen which comes from his sig ability and an unduped medusa really has some god awful damage
  • Repto23Repto23 Member Posts: 797 ★★★
    Everyone is thinking about right now but they said in the initial stream that not ever champ is guaranteed to become a 7* so even if it take a while just having the option to obtain him is better overall.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    You make it sound like he's bad unawakened, he's not, I had mine unawakened for a very long time and still used him a lot. Sure the sigs make the ramp up faster which is definitely nice to have but he's perfectly capable unawakened, same damage same utility it just takes 15-20 seconds longer which is no big deal, at least not for most content
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    007Bishop said:

    BitterSteel said:

    007Bishop said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.

    Because knull needs neither max sig nor the dupe? Have you seen the damage and utility an unduped knull has? His dupe literally just shortens his ramp up by like 5-6 heavies and gives him the ability to deal with regen once the opponent has gone below a certain health threshold, but it's nothing special. An unduped knull is leagues above everyone in the poll
    I agree with everything you’ve said up until the last sentence.

    You could make an argument for any one of these champions. But no, Knull doesn’t need the dupe or max sig.
    You can't really make an argument for an unduped KG or Medusa compared to an unduped Knull.
    I think you’re focussing too much on the unduped aspect. 7*s aren’t only here for the next year. And there’s 0 guarantee that any of these other champions are ever coming as 7*s.
  • UltragamerUltragamer Member Posts: 580 ★★★
    007Bishop said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.

    Because knull needs neither max sig nor the dupe? Have you seen the damage and utility an unduped knull has? His dupe literally just shortens his ramp up by like 5-6 heavies and gives him the ability to deal with regen once the opponent has gone below a certain health threshold, but it's nothing special. An unduped knull is leagues above everyone in the poll
    Knull not the best in the poll KG or Sersi easily better first Sersi is a way better defender and a very solid attacker while KG has very good defense and offense use
  • ShivacruxShivacrux Member Posts: 424 ★★★
    Love watching the discussion about who will be added to Titan crystal, can't wait to get my remaining 14400 Titan shards in 3-4 years to get a 7* featured champ
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,479 ★★★★★
    Ultragamer said:


    007Bishop said:

    KnightOfTheRealm said:

    Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.

    Because knull needs neither max sig nor the dupe? Have you seen the damage and utility an unduped knull has? His dupe literally just shortens his ramp up by like 5-6 heavies and gives him the ability to deal with regen once the opponent has gone below a certain health threshold, but it's nothing special. An unduped knull is leagues above everyone in the poll
    Knull not the best in the poll KG or Sersi easily better first Sersi is a way better defender and a very solid attacker while KG has very good defense and offense use
    At max sig he’s the best in the poll. Sersi is a better defender only if the opponent doesn’t have a good mystic. I think Knull can trip you up more if he throws an sp1. I think all the options are great though
  • coolspiderman17_coolspiderman17_ Member Posts: 322 ★★★
    Knull doesn’t need sigs it just makes him a bit faste. It’s not like he’s great in bgs anyways even at sig 200. The unblockable and unstoppable is a nice bonus too. Let’s you be more aggressive if the ai is passive
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