What was the thinking behind voting Knull?

Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.

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Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.
Because knull needs neither max sig nor the dupe? Have you seen the damage and utility an unduped knull has? His dupe literally just shortens his ramp up by like 5-6 heavies and gives him the ability to deal with regen once the opponent has gone below a certain health threshold, but it's nothing special. An unduped knull is leagues above everyone in the poll
I agree with everything you’ve said up until the last sentence.

You could make an argument for any one of these champions. But no, Knull doesn’t need the dupe or max sig.
You can't really make an argument for an unduped KG or Medusa compared to an unduped Knull.
I think you’re focussing too much on the unduped aspect. 7*s aren’t only here for the next year. And there’s 0 guarantee that any of these other champions are ever coming as 7*s.
Idk about you but as a ftp I wouldn't be happy about pulling a 7* medusa this early on. I'm sure other f2ps would probably agree with me
I'd be over the moon, Medusa would be so damn awesome
Again, are you an f2p? If you are, then congrats. If you aren't, most of us are not gonna be happy about an unduped medusa so that's why she's wouldn't have been a good pick from the poll
i forgot that spending money means champions are more or less fun
Not sure why you keep insisting people should be happy with an unduped medusa because she's fun. She's not lmao. She takes ages to finish the fight unduped and even then nobody would really use her much over other cosmics. Sure, you or a couple other medusa lovers might use her but overall she is useless to most players, especially unduped. You can agree with it or disagree, doesn't bother me. I'm done with this convo
Because you’re wildly fixated on unduped or duped. This isn’t a vote for the next few months when people don’t have many 7*s. This is a vote for the next 4 years, where there is 0 guarantee any other champion will be added as a 7*.

I honestly don’t care about your opinion on Medusa, it doesn’t phase me either way, but the idea that voting for a champion is a bad idea because they’re bad until they’re duped is so odd. Just let people vote for who they enjoy without judgement dude, lighten up a little.

Who cares about something that's going to happen 4 years down the lane lmao. You are so odd telling me to lighten up and not care about what others are voting when i was literally explaining to OP why Knull won over the others and you decided it was a good idea to express your opinion on it. Lets be honest, nobody is going to play the long game, especially not for a mid tier champ like medusa. And at the end of the day, Knull still won so it doesn't matter whether people believe medusa or KG should have won. Knull is still objectively the better champ than Medusa and will always be lol. He just does way more than she does and is easily a top 10 cosmic while Medusa would be lucky to be considered top 15

007Bishop

Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.
Because knull needs neither max sig nor the dupe? Have you seen the damage and utility an unduped knull has? His dupe literally just shortens his ramp up by like 5-6 heavies and gives him the ability to deal with regen once the opponent has gone below a certain health threshold, but it's nothing special. An unduped knull is leagues above everyone in the poll
I agree with everything you’ve said up until the last sentence.

You could make an argument for any one of these champions. But no, Knull doesn’t need the dupe or max sig.
You can't really make an argument for an unduped KG or Medusa compared to an unduped Knull.
I think you’re focussing too much on the unduped aspect. 7*s aren’t only here for the next year. And there’s 0 guarantee that any of these other champions are ever coming as 7*s.
Idk about you but as a ftp I wouldn't be happy about pulling a 7* medusa this early on. I'm sure other f2ps would probably agree with me
I'd be over the moon, Medusa would be so damn awesome
Again, are you an f2p? If you are, then congrats. If you aren't, most of us are not gonna be happy about an unduped medusa so that's why she's wouldn't have been a good pick from the poll
I loved Medusa. Would be happy to get her over knull. And yes. I'm f2p
Well you are certainly one of a kind then
Nahhh

Good for you ig? Medusa still sucks compared to Knull tho so say what you want

GroundedWisdom

Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.
Because knull needs neither max sig nor the dupe? Have you seen the damage and utility an unduped knull has? His dupe literally just shortens his ramp up by like 5-6 heavies and gives him the ability to deal with regen once the opponent has gone below a certain health threshold, but it's nothing special. An unduped knull is leagues above everyone in the poll
I agree with everything you’ve said up until the last sentence.

You could make an argument for any one of these champions. But no, Knull doesn’t need the dupe or max sig.
You can't really make an argument for an unduped KG or Medusa compared to an unduped Knull.
I think you’re focussing too much on the unduped aspect. 7*s aren’t only here for the next year. And there’s 0 guarantee that any of these other champions are ever coming as 7*s.
Idk about you but as a ftp I wouldn't be happy about pulling a 7* medusa this early on. I'm sure other f2ps would probably agree with me
I'd be over the moon, Medusa would be so damn awesome
Again, are you an f2p? If you are, then congrats. If you aren't, most of us are not gonna be happy about an unduped medusa so that's why she's wouldn't have been a good pick from the poll

I'm not sure what F2P has anything to do with.

mbrace

Unduped Sersei > Sig 20 Knull

Sig 200 Knull > Sig 200 Sersi. A maxed out 7* Knull would obliterate tech champs and more. By the time you actually get to pull Knull from a Titan Crystal, 7* AGs and 7* sig stones will probably be available.

AMS94

Unduped Sersei > Sig 20 Knull
Sig 200 Knull > Sig 200 Sersi. A maxed out 7* Knull would obliterate tech champs and more. By the time you actually get to pull Knull from a Titan Crystal, 7* AGs and 7* sig stones will probably be available.

By the time u'll be able to put 200 sigs in a cosmic champion, u will probably be using champs like Galan, Hulkling, Adam & perhaps a few upcoming releases, & most probably won't care too much about either Knull or Sersi
Sig stones & awakening gems are one of the top most valuable resource for any new rarity, & will probably continue to remain as such

Also I don't know at what level most of these voters play the game, but at the top Knull has almost disappeared from all competitive game modes except AW defense
He is more of a story content type champ now instead of a competitive champ.....very similar to Zemo IMO
Though Zemo seems to have more defensive value bcoz he is very punishing

KnightOfTheRealm

Unduped Sersei > Sig 20 Knull
Sig 200 Knull > Sig 200 Sersi. A maxed out 7* Knull would obliterate tech champs and more. By the time you actually get to pull Knull from a Titan Crystal, 7* AGs and 7* sig stones will probably be available.

By the time u'll be able to put 200 sigs in a cosmic champion, u will probably be using champs like Galan, Hulkling, Adam & perhaps a few upcoming releases, & most probably won't care too much about either Knull or Sersi
Sig stones & awakening gems are one of the top most valuable resource for any new rarity, & will probably continue to remain as such

Also I don't know at what level most of these voters play the game, but at the top Knull has almost disappeared from all competitive game modes except AW defense
He is more of a story content type champ now instead of a competitive champ.....very similar to Zemo IMO
Though Zemo seems to have more defensive value bcoz he is very punishing

Yeah, exactly

Sw0rdMaster

Why not vote sersi who’s the only champ in the poll that doesn’t need dupe or sigs.
I know players who have duped 7* champs, so it's not impossible.
I have seven 7*s and one is duped. That doesn’t make it a common occurrence lol

Actually it's more common than duping a 6* because, the 7* pool is smaller, so the chances of pulling the same champ twice is higher.

DNA3000

Who cares about something that's going to happen 4 years down the lane lmao. You are so odd telling me to lighten up and not care about what others are voting when i was literally explaining to OP why Knull won over the others and you decided it was a good idea to express your opinion on it. Lets be honest, nobody is going to play the long game, especially not for a mid tier champ like medusa.

I only know how to play the long game. If I'm not playing the long game, I'm not playing.

I remember when Medusa was a superstar in one of the Summoner Showdown weeks. You can't of course predict when a champ's unique abilities will pop up and be the answer to some future content, but what you can do is ask whether a champion has strong, unique combinations of abilities. This game does not allow you to just target whatever champ you want whenever you want, and then rank them up whenever you want. You have to either be a mega whale that just has everything, or you have to think strategically, in the long term, when managing your roster. I am not a mega whale and I am not in a top tier alliance, so long term strategy is my primary roster management tool.

Personally, I'd be fine with Knull because I like him and I think he has a lot of unique utility. But I would also be perfectly fine with Medusa, because she also has a lot of unique utility. Not only would I be fine pulling her as a 7* champ, if I am being honest I am also fine with lots of people thinking she's a squib. You don't gain competitive advantages in this game by doing what everyone else is doing. You get them by doing things most players don't do and then leveraging them in the right place at the right time.

Most people don't play like me, but some do. We are certainly not the majority, but we aren't an insignificant minority either. It is just that most of us don't publicly defend our roster choices, because that would be counterproductive, so most of us are invisible.

TheWatcher_

The point is that Sersi should have won period. Not some champ that needs to be awakened. It will take you a while to get that Knull awakened. The clearer option should have been a champ that does not need it.

Sw0rdMaster

The point is that Sersi should have won period.

So why didn't she win? 🤔

Darkraw346

He's the coolest

pika

Pretty sure many are glad they don't have to face 7* Sersi, QS for a very long time in AW/BG's.

altavista

The point is that Sersi should have won period. Not some champ that needs to be awakened. It will take you a while to get that Knull awakened. The clearer option should have been a champ that does not need it.

Sersi should not have won period. If the vote was for "Who is the best unduped champion?", then maybe Sersi should have won period (but even then, there will be naysayers). But the vote was for "Which Cosmic champion should be in the Titan pool?"

Everyone has different criteria for why they vote the way that they do. Some may vote for what character they like better, others may vote for who they think the better champion is (and obviously that is subjective), and others vote based on some notion of keeping the 'good champions' out of the top 1% of players so they don't have to face them in BGs.

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