Continuous monitoring of arena is needed!

ChanfsChanfs Member Posts: 54 ★
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Looking at the arena that just ended. There are 33 with no alliance tag (13 in featured, 20 in basic) in the top 200 of the leaderboard. That’s over 16% of the top scorers and seems abruptly high for the game. Since we don’t have the full leaderboard, no idea what top 400 looks like.

Even with alliance tag, it may mean nothing too. Top score in the basic leaderboard, 1.18 mil pvp and 3500+ Highest win streak. That seems to be humanly impossible number to do. Number two is not that great either. 789k pvp and 2900+ highest win streak. The ban wave doesn’t seem to work that well.

Going forward. Any boting or modding should be permanent ban. I hope we will see another ban wave sooner than later. Hope Kabam won’t wait more than 1.5 years to do this again and let the problem getting out of control like last time.
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  • HungaryHippoHungaryHippo Member Posts: 1,038 ★★★★
    But then people wouldn't have to buy units to refresh for the arena!
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,732 Guardian
    Chanfs said:

    Just how effective the ban wave! No 1 in featured and no 3 in basic is the same account. In addition, no 6 and 7 in featured are highly likely to be modder.

    Keep in mind ban waves happen after an arena ends. Just because someone finished on top, doesn't mean they're not going to get banned very soon.
    Drago_von_Drago said:

    pseudosane said:

    Kabam is tirelessly working on banning modders. They are improving everything. They are actually doing really good to give cheaters a pause.

    Can you expand on this and give examples and/or metrics that show they are “doing really good”?
    Due to player privacy concerns (or something like that) we can't give specific names of players that do get banned, but the data has shown that arena cutoffs have lowered dramatically since they started doing bans.
  • Zuko_ILCZuko_ILC Member Posts: 1,512 ★★★★★
    The botters just set a lower target. Nothing changes. Perma bans are needed.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,658 Guardian
    Drago_von_Drago said:

    pseudosane said:

    Kabam is tirelessly working on banning modders. They are improving everything. They are actually doing really good to give cheaters a pause.

    Can you expand on this and give examples and/or metrics that show they are “doing really good”?

  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 3,978 Guardian
    Drago_von_Drago said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Drago_von_Drago said:

    pseudosane said:

    Kabam is tirelessly working on banning modders. They are improving everything. They are actually doing really good to give cheaters a pause.

    Can you expand on this and give examples and/or metrics that show they are “doing really good”?

    We have different thresholds for “really good.”

    Banning cheaters and redistributing rewards is certainly on the right track but if it’s only a 7-day ban and they only lose the 6* and not all the gold and units along with it then they’re only reducing the incentive, not disincentivizing cheating.
    It is 7 day bans for a first offense. The next ban will be permanent.
    Plenty of the arena bans we saw were permanent
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,110 ★★★★★
    2261 win streak?

  • DL864DL864 Member Posts: 1,089 ★★★
    phillgreen said:

    2261 win streak?

    The one guy is 3574 win streak. I was just checking randomly and it seems that profile has been online consistently. I think that should be a dead giveaway if the profile never logs out.
  • LordSmasherLordSmasher Member Posts: 1,574 ★★★★★
    pseudosane said:

    Drago_von_Drago said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Drago_von_Drago said:

    pseudosane said:

    Kabam is tirelessly working on banning modders. They are improving everything. They are actually doing really good to give cheaters a pause.

    Can you expand on this and give examples and/or metrics that show they are “doing really good”?

    We have different thresholds for “really good.”

    Banning cheaters and redistributing rewards is certainly on the right track but if it’s only a 7-day ban and they only lose the 6* and not all the gold and units along with it then they’re only reducing the incentive, not disincentivizing cheating.
    It is 7 day bans for a first offense. The next ban will be permanent.
    Plenty of the arena bans we saw were permanent
    Issue is those that were banned 7 days have been top of the leaderboards for a long time. Its inconceivable that it was the first time they were cheating. It was just the first time Kabam considered them "caught cheating".
  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 3,978 Guardian
    LordSmasher said:

    pseudosane said:

    Drago_von_Drago said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Drago_von_Drago said:

    pseudosane said:

    Kabam is tirelessly working on banning modders. They are improving everything. They are actually doing really good to give cheaters a pause.

    Can you expand on this and give examples and/or metrics that show they are “doing really good”?

    We have different thresholds for “really good.”

    Banning cheaters and redistributing rewards is certainly on the right track but if it’s only a 7-day ban and they only lose the 6* and not all the gold and units along with it then they’re only reducing the incentive, not disincentivizing cheating.
    It is 7 day bans for a first offense. The next ban will be permanent.
    Plenty of the arena bans we saw were permanent
    Issue is those that were banned 7 days have been top of the leaderboards for a long time. Its inconceivable that it was the first time they were cheating. It was just the first time Kabam considered them "caught cheating".
    which is true, agreed. But if they wanna go ahead and cheat again, they are risking perma bans.
  • ElthanElthan Member Posts: 94 ★★
    288 rounds per day, with an average of 2,5 min per round is equal to 720 min or 12 hours.

    Imagine doing that 12 hours a day for the past 9 years (if started in 2014).
  • Drago_von_DragoDrago_von_Drago Member Posts: 931 ★★★★
    Elthan said:

    288 rounds per day, with an average of 2,5 min per round is equal to 720 min or 12 hours.

    Imagine doing that 12 hours a day for the past 9 years (if started in 2014).

    And that’s just time spent playing arena. To actually do anything else in game is additional time…
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,658 Guardian
    Drago_von_Drago said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Drago_von_Drago said:

    pseudosane said:

    Kabam is tirelessly working on banning modders. They are improving everything. They are actually doing really good to give cheaters a pause.

    Can you expand on this and give examples and/or metrics that show they are “doing really good”?

    We have different thresholds for “really good.”

    Banning cheaters and redistributing rewards is certainly on the right track but if it’s only a 7-day ban and they only lose the 6* and not all the gold and units along with it then they’re only reducing the incentive, not disincentivizing cheating.
    They can always do better, and in fact I'm always specifically recommending ways for them to do better, but for me to get that compensation they had to ban over 268 people from the top of the leaderboards. That's a non-trivial amount of banning activity, and it means at least 267 other players also benefited from that activity besides me, and while some of the bans were unfortunately temporary a lot of them were permanent bans.

    I agree with regard to revoking gold and units. It is something I specifically asked Kabam to look into including in their arena fair play process.
  • horrendous_toohorrendous_too Member Posts: 242 ★★★
    startropics said:

    2272 fights x 25 seconds/fight with sigil (being generous, it might be higher)

    56,800 seconds

    946 minutes or 15.7 hours of straight fighting in 22hrs


    If each fight takes 30 seconds it's 18.9hrs of straight grinding

    no eating
    poop bucket?
    barely sleeping
    busted thumbs

    someone call the united nations because somewhere in the world a prison warden is clearly running a torture camp

    I really hope that the accounts that were banned for botting are actually under a microscope. Since this kind of brazen cheating just really dampens my enthusiasm for any modes involving competition with them.
  • HungaryHippoHungaryHippo Member Posts: 1,038 ★★★★
    This is why you play the game at your own pace. Chasing the top is a Sisyphean endeavor. Lots of cheaters at the top of the game and Kabam even flags them as ban in the recent leaks.

    Will they actually ban them? Maybe when their cash dries up :cry:
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