It’s the 7-month anniversary of the last glory store update!

Did you know that if you finish 31st in AQ, you get less t6b and t3a than you get from 2000 BG trophies? (One purchase of each at 1000 trophies).

2000 BG trophies gets you 15% of each catalyst. If you want that with glory, it’ll cost 3900 per cycle. If you score 599 million, your reward is 3400 glory, plus whatever rank rewards will net you.

Hopefully an update is around the corner but this is our grindiest game mode and now I’d put the rewards behind solo content, BGs and war. Fingers crossed for good news soon.

Comments

Pikolu

Hard agree, none of the stores should go more than 6 months without an update

Lovejoy72

The biggest condition on my recent alliance search was: limited AQ. Having the most time consuming part of the game be the least remunerative feels like a bit of a miss.

BeastDad

That store is way behind the times.

raviXsharma

AQ keeps us engaged for almost a week but the rewards doesn't seem it's worth that much effort

Ayden_noah1

I 100% agreed with this post. I was looking at the glory store and realized that it's so outdate and the 5 day grind seems pointless now. The BG store is so much better. Why we are added, the Loyalty store needs a major update as well, that was great when it first came out but in today's meta, it's not worth spending all those loyalty anynore.

HSS75

Wait 5 more months

Chris_Summers

Wait 5 more months

DrZola

An idea I’ve mentioned elsewhere: regular, scheduled updates of the various stores similar to champ rebalancing.

They don’t need to be done all at once, but if 1-2 stores could have a committed rebalancing each quarter, it would go a long way to fixing some of the obsolescence that creeps in as time passes.

In no way would this prevent other, more systemic overhauls when needed, but a regular schedule would be a welcome and beneficial change.

Dr. Zola

TyEdge

An idea I’ve mentioned elsewhere: regular, scheduled updates of the various stores similar to champ rebalancing.

They don’t need to be done all at once, but if 1-2 stores could have a committed rebalancing each quarter, it would go a long way to fixing some of the obsolescence that creeps in as time passes.

In no way would this prevent other, more systemic overhauls when needed, but a regular schedule would be a welcome and beneficial change.

Dr. Zola

Honestly, the way they talked at the last update, I thought this was what was gonna happen.

They upgraded the solo events and they changed the weekly event (hard to say “upgraded”).

AQ, war, loyalty, BGs…even if we got one every two months, that’d be a full cycle every 8 months. Loyalty hasn’t been touched since August, when the paragon store introduced class AGs for a million loyalty. Now they give out a class and a generic in the monthly SQ.

Moosetiptronic

@Kabam Jax there was a post last year, saying that stores would be upgraded more regularly for smaller incremental changes.

AQ is definitely due an update; it's the game mode that keeps alliances together and if you let BGs run away with the rewards, as it's currently the case, a lot of alliances, founded on AQ, will start to crumble.

Which would be sad.

It would be great if we can get an indicative and tough timeline for when it will be updated.

Thanks!

TyEdge

@Kabam Jax there was a post last year, saying that stores would be upgraded more regularly for smaller incremental changes.

AQ is definitely due an update; it's the game mode that keeps alliances together and if you let BGs run away with the rewards, as it's currently the case, a lot of alliances, founded on AQ, will start to crumble.

Which would be sad.

It would be great if we can get an indicative and tough timeline for when it will be updated.

Thanks!

You’re onto something here. Quest and war are modes that are played together in real time. We might have our own schedules but we’re on the map together. BG progression and points are earned privately…individually…away from other alliance members.

It’s not as communal a game mode. It doesn’t breed the same investment in each other’s participation and success.

SirGamesBond

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/319330/alliance-quest-s10-it-s-open-season-starting-november-24th-2022
'to the mode' in this official post means AQ.
The thread is from November '22.

DrZola

An idea I’ve mentioned elsewhere: regular, scheduled updates of the various stores similar to champ rebalancing.

They don’t need to be done all at once, but if 1-2 stores could have a committed rebalancing each quarter, it would go a long way to fixing some of the obsolescence that creeps in as time passes.

In no way would this prevent other, more systemic overhauls when needed, but a regular schedule would be a welcome and beneficial change.

Dr. Zola
Honestly, the way they talked at the last update, I thought this was what was gonna happen.

They upgraded the solo events and they changed the weekly event (hard to say “upgraded”).

AQ, war, loyalty, BGs…even if we got one every two months, that’d be a full cycle every 8 months. Loyalty hasn’t been touched since August, when the paragon store introduced class AGs for a million loyalty. Now they give out a class and a generic in the monthly SQ.

Agreed.

I’d also like a stated rationale for how each store is intended. BGs have washed out much of the usefulness of the other stores and cuts across so many areas of the game. Loyalty, which is most in need of an update, could easily be renamed the Boost Store. Incursions is a horribly overpriced crystal store, and the Glory Store that once seemed like a bargain is now hopelessly out of step.

Is one supposed to provide rankup mats? Or are all of them? Should all of them give access to crystal shards? Or just some of them? Why can’t questing pots be acquired somewhere?

Personally, I think it makes sense for most things to be acquired across all major stores, with a few things exclusive to each based on the particular game mode. But the prices across stores should at least have some rational tether to the time spent acquiring store currency.

Dr. Zola

Dude17

AQ needs to not have progressive price increases, similar to BG store. Among other changes.
Also 4 day week AQ, bring it!

Moosetiptronic

@Kabam Jax there was a post last year, saying that stores would be upgraded more regularly for smaller incremental changes.

AQ is definitely due an update; it's the game mode that keeps alliances together and if you let BGs run away with the rewards, as it's currently the case, a lot of alliances, founded on AQ, will start to crumble.

Which would be sad.

It would be great if we can get an indicative and tough timeline for when it will be updated.

Thanks!
You’re onto something here. Quest and war are modes that are played together in real time. We might have our own schedules but we’re on the map together. BG progression and points are earned privately…individually…away from other alliance members.

It’s not as communal a game mode. It doesn’t breed the same investment in each other’s participation and success.

So much this. And as @DrZola says, the BG store has massively devalued all the others. Running an 80m alliance, it's odd how the interaction in war and AQ, even the haranguing of people to move, means you're all regularly interacting and trying to pull together.

You keep people on in tougher times, because you have that interaction.

If people are just a BG score, it depersonalises the alliance structure.

Which does genuinely concern me.

Also, thank you @SirGamesBond , that's the post I was thinking of; more regular updates to AQ rather than 9-12 months... Posted 8 months ago!

Greekhit

AQ needs to not have progressive price increases, similar to BG store. Among other changes.
Also 4 day week AQ, bring it!

Removing progressive price increasing and increasing purchase caps on items such as ISO and Gold crystals (from 10 to 30).
It's silly someone can buy 20-30 t6 ISO blocks daily with 5$, but at the same time can only buy only 10 per 8 days from doing AQ, that's very unbalanced and pure bs design.
This changes to glory store should happen immediately, along with revised prices on "high end" mats (t6bc and t3a).
As an officer, I struggle to keep members doing AQ.
Our AQ ally score have dropped nearly 100mil last month, and yet we finish the same bracket of rewards, meaning most of other alliances scores have dropped either.
If Kabam keeps that "only BGs store update" route, AQ will be a dead mode very soon and AQ focused allies will die too.
After exactly six years in my ally, it's the first time I consider seriously leaving for a BGs ally, that are highly trending nowadays.

Rohit_316

Paragons still have t2cc , t3cc , t1a , t1cc in the glory store. What else do i say now ? Even after the new update , i doubt they will give something which will help at the progression level.

TyEdge

Over the last month or so, we’ve risen from rank 850ish to 638. We haven’t had a significant change in membership, maps or modifiers. The only variable is everyone else.

We posted 550mil running 665 with uncomplicated mods. It’s absurd that someone running map 4/5 and scoring 250mil gets the same 3400 glory we get at 550mil.

Moosetiptronic

@TyEdge We hit rank 1600 running only map 5 this round; 4,500 glory.

I wonder if this is an elaborate means of saving money.

Pile all the rewards into BGs (which have incredibly low complexity in terms of in game design of challenge and operation now that it's built) and slowly kill off war and AQ and any complex element of alliance management. You'd need far less people to manage BGs.

Whereas, I'm personally still hoping for an AQ revamp, but it feels like an incursion esque mothballing is on the cards. Particularly as the game has centred on prestige for so many years and the new toy, BGs, specifically discourages prestige.

TyEdge

@TyEdge We hit rank 1600 running only map 5 this round; 4,500 glory.

I wonder if this is an elaborate means of saving money.

Pile all the rewards into BGs (which have incredibly low complexity in terms of in game design of challenge and operation now that it's built) and slowly kill off war and AQ and any complex element of alliance management. You'd need far less people to manage BGs.

Whereas, I'm personally still hoping for an AQ revamp, but it feels like an incursion esque mothballing is on the cards. Particularly as the game has centred on prestige for so many years and the new toy, BGs, specifically discourages prestige.

We got 4700 total for top 800 at 550 mil.

Arifutera

Any update here @Kabam Miike

Geronimo3124

Kabam needs to learn about inflation

TyEdge

I hope it’s a persistent topic of discussion until this and the loyalty store are updated.

6 million loyalty to get the t6/t3 catalysts for a single r4 compared to just 40,000 BG trophies.

Moosetiptronic

@Kabam Miike and @Kabam Jax can we have some form of comment here?

Alliances have relied heavily on AQ as the best source of rank up materials for years. And AW as the best source of shards/champs. Our officers and alliance structures are designed for recruiting and retaining for these game modes. The prestige race heavily linked to AQ in particular.

Even personal player champion choice and mastery choice hugely changes, from champions sustainable across 10 to 20 fights, to those optimised for one.

If BG is going to be the best source for both of these going forwards and that maintaining alliances willing to do AQ is no longer remotely optimal, then you need to give some form of heads up to the player base.

Please. 🙏

Kappa2g

Glory, Loyalty stores that players grind for weekly/seasonally all outdated, meanwhile game breaking offers will be dropping on the weekend. Shame

TyEdge

Glory, Loyalty stores that players grind for weekly/seasonally all outdated, meanwhile game breaking offers will be dropping on the weekend. Shame

People are getting half a t6cc from monthly content and can’t get it in the glory store. It’ll be very interesting to see what happens with cash offers.

Bugmat78

Just adding my post here to keep the topic front & centre - it's been more than half a year. That is some serious "latency issues"!

5th

Any update here @Kabam Miike

Moosetiptronic

@DNA3000

You like to muse over game economy and related facets. Thoughts?

SirGamesBond

Glory, Loyalty stores that players grind for weekly/seasonally all outdated, meanwhile game breaking offers will be dropping on the weekend. Shame

First make resource rare.
Sell it extensively in July.
Slowly give all players those resources to catch up.
Player Base catches up a little.
Bring in cyber weekend and sell more resources
Give resources during gifting to everyone.
Make spenders spend money on miniscule amount of next rare resource.

And the cycle continues.......

Glory/loyalty stores have left the building.
All we got were false promises and hope for regular mini updates.