Battlegrounds match making

Charliejiggens

My base team rwting is below 800k so why am i constantly getting matched with these accounts

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Furrymoosen

I’m assuming it’s because you moved up to Plat 2 where the matchmaking opens up. So now you have to match up against the other accounts going for the same rewards that you’re trying to get.

ItsClobberinTime

What league are you in?

Ironman3000

Be happy with the rewards that Kabam gave you.

Theholyplunger

Matchmaking is totally scuffed. How is any of this fair? People should be getting matched with like accounts, not just bc they made it to plat 2. And don't say be happy with your rewards...that's a nonsense argument. Look at these accounts I faced...this isn't fun for me. I want to compete, not just roll over baby accounts. @Kabam Miike @Kabam Jax can you please bring this to the dev team as an issue to be resolved? BGs is supposed to be a competition and this is not competitive. For reference I have a 3.8 mil rating with 17.1k prestige. This was plat 2 through plat 1

TitoBandito187

How did those baby accounts get to platinum 2? I have a 3.3m account and no r5s yet and 2x 7*, but I pretty much only get to fight 6* r5s and 7* r2 in gold 3 at the moment. I'd love to roll over some baby accounts who are getting there so easily.

Ironman3000

lol, those accounts are a joke. If you can't beat them you don't deserve to be in Plat 2.

Theholyplunger

Probably by fighting similar accounts. Now they are in this broken matchmaking set up and they no longer have a chance. If Kabam wants to open up matchmaking in GC...fine I guess? But there has to be a better system in place. Those accounts aren't going to want to keep playing. I know I wouldn't if I was them

TyEdge

Why should slackers and noobs get rewarded for playing with my 2019 roster?

Why should I be punished for saving last season’s BG trophies and 21,000 units to blow my roster TF out for July 4?

I enjoy getting a return on my investment. In this case, the return is that I still win even after the “game” misses 3 parries.

SummonerNR

See your previous posts about same thing.

And to use the next person's pics as example, so should those ppl with low 3k rated champs be able to get to and earn Gladiator Circuit rewards because they should only be matched against others with same low rated champs ?

Theholyplunger

Sure, why not? If they are beating the same level accounts then they should get rewards. Their BG store is going to be at a proportionate tier. It's not like getting to GC all of a sudden gets them r4 6*s. They still have to grind the content to get to the better stuff.

Theholyplunger

You're not being punished. You are being rewarded for whaling out your unit stash by facing like rosters to test your shiny new toys. Assuming your skill matches. If it doesn't then I can see why it would feel like punishment.

And again, the "noob" has a "noob" store. The only thing they are getting is more tokens. If they get to GC and kabam sends them a lot of high tier stuff that could be a perceived issue. A simple solution is to tier the rewards for GC season placement to their progression.

I'm not pretending to have all the answers, I'm pointing out that I want to compete, not just coast through because of a bad system. I'm willing to bet OP feels the same way. Competition at any level is better than what currently exists in plat

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Magrailothos

Don't sweat it Tito. You'll get there, mate.

I literally just made Platinum a couple of days ago - making progress in Gold is hard!

Chatterofforums

Kabam has NEVER said this is meant for "all players" in fact they added progression titles as a requirement which immediately debunks your argument.

Secondly, Kabam has NEVER said that all players will be able to progress equally despite roster, in fact, they said quite the opposite awhile back (before some matchmaking changes a few season ago) when they said playera would be more motivated to develop their rosters.

The main points of your argument are completely fabricated untruths.

FuneralMist

Just got matched with this profile in Platinum 1 and I really don't get how he made it there with a deck of all 4*s 🤢

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Coppin

Kabam should match me with similar accounts in GC so i can get more points and maybe make it into celestial...

Schwarte

Sure. I also think that the football team of the third division should get just as much money as the teams of the first league.

In addition, the weak teams should always compete against each other in cup games so that they have a realistic chance of reaching the final.

Anything else would be unfair.

ps.: But understand the frustration due to the high accs that only stay with the lows for point farming.

TitoBandito187

No worries @Magrailothos . I was at Uru 2 just a minute ago (back to Uru 3 at the moment from a bad beat, but that's just one fight difference). Getting to G.C. was very doable, but I guess I'm confused on the rewards when little accounts like that can climb that high.

If we're all competing for "the same rewards", something seems off if an account with all 4* in their deck can get the same stuff paragons are, regardless of how "matched' their battles might be on paper that got them into Platinum (or whatever level).

Or,is the real differentiation that they are getting the same amount of Battle Chips, but can only spend them on lesser items? I'm really not sure how that works, but I thought the store offered the same items for everyone and maybe that's where I'm wrong/confused? However, if that 4* account is able to get just as many 6* generic sig stones and T3A/T6CC, then that doesn't make sense, no matter who they are fighting to work their way up.

GroundedWisdom

Honestly, I had an easier time with Gold and Plat. Been stuck in D1 for days.

DNA3000

This is the difficulty curve everyone should see in a fair competition:

The people at the bottom would be the weakest competitors and the people at the top would be the strongest, which is what any sane competition seeks to do. If you're climbing the ladder of competition you should see weak competition, then stronger competition, then even stronger competition. Instead, low progress players see this:

The game protects them from seeing stronger competition until about Platinum 3 or so, so that when that protection disappears the difficulty curve jumps up to where it would have been without those protections. They see a sudden discontinuity in difficulty. But that discontinuity is not unfair to them, rather the opposite:

All of this is extra rewards lower progress players are getting for wins they would most likely not have gotten had they were required to face the fair and proper difficulty curve, which is the first one above. They are handed those wins specifically to allow them to participate at a much higher level than they would otherwise be able to, to encourage participation.

High roster players, meanwhile, face the opposite difficulty curve. Actually, not even the opposite, but a completely degenerate one:

Because they are required to face the highest roster strengths right from the start, their average difficulty per match starts off extremely high and stays there until about Platinum 3. When roster matching disappears, their average statistical match up drops in difficulty, because the aveerage player in P3 is weaker than what they've been facing all along. It remains so until they reach GC, whereupon ratings matching takes over and they then rise to their specific level of competitive strength - which is what is supposed to happen in the first place.

No one is entitled to get matches "at their level." Competitions match competitors by their competitive strength, which is itself measured by wins and losses. If you win you move up, if you lose you move down. That's how the GC works, and that's how most open style competitions work. The VT doesn't work like that because the VT is designed to offer *advantages* to lower roster players. What some low roster players see as "fair" is actually an artificial temporary benefit being given to them to allow them to participate without having to face the correct level of competition within their VT tier. But once they progress past a certain point (P3, more or less), the have to face the average competition in their tier just like everyone else. If they are seeing a dramatic jump in difficulty, that's only because they were given an artificial protection from escalating difficulty in the first place. The longer they are protected from fair competition, the higher the jump gets when they eventually have to face it.

And "fair" in a competition is: you have to face everyone else. Fair is not "you get to pick who you face" no matter how much some people think that's what's fair. You do not get to dictate what subset of the playerbase you think is fair. If you think you get to decide that everyone with a larger roster is unfair to match against, then I can decide everyone who isn't over 50 and nearsighted is unfair competition for me. Except in this game, roster development is a core component of the game for which there are institutionalized advantages. Neutralizing that advantage would be more nonsensical than neutralizing the advantages of youth.

ChiliDog

Today I finally reached the magic world of tier based matchmaking in platinum 2 after all these seasons that you have all talked about!!!!! Bye bye evil silver and even more riduculous gold...hello diamond!!!

XFREEDOMX

All these matchmaking talk! I yet to face an opponent lower than my account size! My base rating is 3.5 and 18400 prestige. Who are these people?