Why isn’t Magik chilling as a 6*

DarkestDestroyer

I’m just curious, I don’t think I’m missing anything, I know Magik is a decent champ, but a 6* wouldn’t be overpowering at all.

We should be able to gain her from crystals, I hope the time will one day come.

I feel the same with quake, there are so many anti quake champs, abilities and nodes now, that she would be fine.

What’s everyone else think, with 7* out, at least let them be 6*!

Vegeta9001

Yeah man, give me 6* r5 quake so I can ascend her next month.

DUHveed

Vegeta9001 said:

Yeah man, give me 6* r5 quake so I can ascend her next month.

Vegeta9001

DUHveed said:

Vegeta9001 said:

Yeah man, give me 6* r5 quake so I can ascend her next month.

Oh no, anyway.

Drago_von_Drago

Can someone explain what magik can do that is still keeping her out of the 6* pool? I never pulled her as a 5* when I was using them so I really don’t know what she’s capable of.

Is there a good showcase of what she does that makes her too strong to be a 6*?

JustWantTheRewards

Drago_von_Drago said:

Can someone explain what magik can do that is still keeping her out of the 6* pool? I never pulled her as a 5* when I was using them so I really don’t know what she’s capable of.

Is there a good showcase of what she does that makes her too strong to be a 6*?

I imagine they're just worried about how overpowered Limbo would be on defense

Shake_a_Quake

Drago_von_Drago said:

Can someone explain what magik can do that is still keeping her out of the 6* pool? I never pulled her as a 5* when I was using them so I really don’t know what she’s capable of.

Is there a good showcase of what she does that makes her too strong to be a 6*?

Curious here, too. I think it has got something to do with limbo, it basically regenerates all the damage taken, and reflects it back on the opponent?? I'm really not sure, hope other Magik lovers will confirm.


Mysterio can do that with one his buffs too, if i remember correct.

Drago_von_Drago

JustWantTheRewards said:

Drago_von_Drago said:

Can someone explain what magik can do that is still keeping her out of the 6* pool? I never pulled her as a 5* when I was using them so I really don’t know what she’s capable of.

Is there a good showcase of what she does that makes her too strong to be a 6*?

I imagine they're just worried about how overpowered Limbo would be on defense

That’s what I was thinking but it seems like we’ve got enough counters to that by now and it doesn’t seem any worse than domino. Maybe I’m missing something though.

zuffy

She is one of the best power control champ. Get to sp2 and it’s over.

Pikolu

Drago_von_Drago said:

Can someone explain what magik can do that is still keeping her out of the 6* pool? I never pulled her as a 5* when I was using them so I really don’t know what she’s capable of.

Is there a good showcase of what she does that makes her too strong to be a 6*?

Permanent power lock. Unlike doom, she can also counter terrax because she isn't a metal champion. On my alt I was cruising through content with a 3* Magik, no dexterity mastery. Block damage can be rectified via limbo, and limbo is the most annoying defender ability in existence.

SirGamesBond

JustWantTheRewards said:

Drago_von_Drago said:

Can someone explain what magik can do that is still keeping her out of the 6* pool? I never pulled her as a 5* when I was using them so I really don’t know what she’s capable of.

Is there a good showcase of what she does that makes her too strong to be a 6*?

I imagine they're just worried about how overpowered Limbo would be on defense

I can guarantee you that is not the case.
It's more towards the sp2 locking mechanic and the regen. She is broken op war champ, that can be an argument too.

zuffy said:

She is one of the best power control champ. Get to sp2 and it’s over.

Doom can finish 90% of fights with rightly timed sp1.
But That's not the point.


If doom can be stopped in content, so does magik, also magik takes longer in larger health pools.

Magik is not as safe as doom tbh, from a seasoned magik player, good ol days of double edge and sp2 spam. Seen enough KOed magiks in war back in the day, while doom the tank effin refuses to die.

They may tune down her limbo damage and make it scale with base attack only.

Would really like to see a 6* magik.
And as a Quake user, we aint gonna see her in 6* for atleast 2-3 more years. Miike said never say never!!

ahmynuts

SirGamesBond said:

JustWantTheRewards said:

Drago_von_Drago said:

Can someone explain what magik can do that is still keeping her out of the 6* pool? I never pulled her as a 5* when I was using them so I really don’t know what she’s capable of.

Is there a good showcase of what she does that makes her too strong to be a 6*?

I imagine they're just worried about how overpowered Limbo would be on defense

I can guarantee you that is not the case.
It's more towards the sp2 locking mechanic and the regen. She is broken op war champ, that can be an argument too.

zuffy said:

She is one of the best power control champ. Get to sp2 and it’s over.

Doom can finish 90% of fights with rightly timed sp1.
But That's not the point.


If doom can be stopped in content, so does magik, also magik takes longer in larger health pools.

Magik is not as safe as doom tbh, from a seasoned magik player, good ol days of double edge and sp2 spam. Seen enough KOed magiks in war back in the day, while doom the tank effin refuses to die.

They may tune down her limbo damage and make it scale with base attack only.

Would really like to see a 6* magik.
And as a Quake user, we aint gonna see her in 6* for atleast 2-3 more years. Miike said never say never!!

Approximately 1 day before the game shuts down they'll release quake as a 6 star

Drago_von_Drago

I guess my point is I’m using my 5* herc and torch and Tigra and Kingpin regularly in Act 8/TB EQ/Threat Level 5 SQ because I don’t have them as 6* yet. Is Magik worth ranking up as a 5* in the current state of the game? I rarely see anyone mention her as an option for anything.

Figue

Drago_von_Drago said:

I guess my point is I’m using my 5* herc and torch and Tigra and Kingpin regularly in Act 8/TB EQ/Threat Level 5 SQ because I don’t have them as 6* yet. Is Magik worth ranking up as a 5* in the current state of the game? I rarely see anyone mention her as an option for anything.

nobody uses her because is a 5 star, but now with ascension a lot of players will be using her again i bet, she and quake

Viking_St3v3

I am totally ascending my 5* Magik once I can. I miss That SP2 power lock. I still break her out when it makes sense.

doctorb

Shake_a_Quake said:

Drago_von_Drago said:

Can someone explain what magik can do that is still keeping her out of the 6* pool? I never pulled her as a 5* when I was using them so I really don’t know what she’s capable of.

Is there a good showcase of what she does that makes her too strong to be a 6*?

Curious here, too. I think it has got something to do with limbo, it basically regenerates all the damage taken, and reflects it back on the opponent?? I'm really not sure, hope other Magik lovers will confirm.


Mysterio can do that with one his buffs too, if i remember correct.

His sp1

doctorb

My argument in releasing quake is she requires skill that not everyone can do. With enemies so strong now, u have to consistently dexterity for her to be great. Personally I m not that good at dexterity for so long so my 5* quake is just gathering dust. But fir those who are skilled enuff, I think they should have a 6* quake

Toyota_2015

Shake_a_Quake said:

Drago_von_Drago said:

Can someone explain what magik can do that is still keeping her out of the 6* pool? I never pulled her as a 5* when I was using them so I really don’t know what she’s capable of.

Is there a good showcase of what she does that makes her too strong to be a 6*?

Curious here, too. I think it has got something to do with limbo, it basically regenerates all the damage taken, and reflects it back on the opponent?? I'm really not sure, hope other Magik lovers will confirm.


Mysterio can do that with one his buffs too, if i remember correct.

The big difference here is that Limbo also deals unavoidable energy damage to your champion while it's active in addition to rewinding all damage done, while Mysterio only reminds damage and nothing else

Edit: I just checked their abilities to make sure I'm not an idiot and there is another minor difference. Limbo doesn't reflect damage at all, it only reminds it. So Limbo deals constant energy damage to the opponent and then reminds all damage that Magik has taken, while Mysterio's reflection gas rewinds damage and then inflicts damage to the opponent based off of how much damage was rewound.

Corkscrew

Toyota_2015 said:

Shake_a_Quake said:

Drago_von_Drago said:

Can someone explain what magik can do that is still keeping her out of the 6* pool? I never pulled her as a 5* when I was using them so I really don’t know what she’s capable of.

Is there a good showcase of what she does that makes her too strong to be a 6*?

Curious here, too. I think it has got something to do with limbo, it basically regenerates all the damage taken, and reflects it back on the opponent?? I'm really not sure, hope other Magik lovers will confirm.


Mysterio can do that with one his buffs too, if i remember correct.

The big difference here is that Limbo also deals unavoidable energy damage to your champion while it's active in addition to rewinding all damage done, while Mysterio only reminds damage and nothing else

Edit: I just checked their abilities to make sure I'm not an idiot and there is another minor difference. Limbo doesn't reflect damage at all, it only reminds it. So Limbo deals constant energy damage to the opponent and then reminds all damage that Magik has taken, while Mysterio's reflection gas rewinds damage and then inflicts damage to the opponent based off of how much damage was rewound.

I think the important and huge difference missed here is that limbo is RNG based on when she crosses a bar of power, so can be countered by AAR, completely denying her power or high energy resistance. Even the best power denial champs and AAR champs usually give her at least one bar in the average fight before they can do anything with maybe the exception of OG Vision. Energy resistance reduces the damage (e.g. Guardian). So, there will be champs that handle her well to varying degrees, but almost no one will ever take zero damage unless really lucky on RNG.

Mysterio SP1 damage reversal can be countered by any champ... just don't hit him during the timer... problem solved.

ShoNuff29

JustWantTheRewards said:

Drago_von_Drago said:

Can someone explain what magik can do that is still keeping her out of the 6* pool? I never pulled her as a 5* when I was using them so I really don’t know what she’s capable of.

Is there a good showcase of what she does that makes her too strong to be a 6*?

I imagine they're just worried about how overpowered Limbo would be on defense

They should value buff GHulk so he can be relevant again. Perfect counter. He loves limbo

ShoNuff29

Viking_St3v3 said:

I am totally ascending my 5* Magik once I can. I miss That SP2 power lock. I still break her out when it makes sense.

Gonna do the same but that likely still won’t be enough damage to truly be relevant until we have the 6*

rvcubing

Magik would be too OP for defense, yeah she has damage reflect like mysterio but you can avoid that damage by not hitting him. Magiks Limbo is unavoidable damage. And her power control is the best in game. Too op as 6*.

But for ascension quake and magik should go up for sure