Between buffing old champs or focusing on new champs, what do you prefer?

Hey everyone,

As the title suggests, if Kabam asked you what your preference was between investing time & effort in buffing old champs or focusing more on newer champs, what would your answer be and why?

Comments

BeastDad

Some are so bad it is scary.

raviXsharma

There's enough good champs that I'm a fan of, to play this game and enjoy. I don't mind new champs coming but I'd still love to see pick some of my favourites in action. If we can fix that and then move on to new champs that would be more satisfying.

Mr.0-8-4

I'm of the "buff old champions" mindset. New characters are exciting but I think the game has reached a point where you have enough champions in the game with unique kits, that no one would bat an eye if Kabam reduced bringing in new champs to every other month (allowing them to buff 2 old champs per month)

Not to mention, some of these buffs would make an old character feel new. Do you guys remember when Juggy got his buff? He plays so much better than before. It's a whole different experience.

Colinwhitworth69

I'd like the cadence of old champ buffs to increase some, but I don't mean to the ambitious level they had once proposed. Feels like they've pulled back too far. Would be nice to get 3-4 a year.

BigBlueOx

I’d like there to be a happy middle ground, I thought 2022 was that place, I’ve been disappointed with the 2023 direction.

Viper198787

I only vote this way because it’s honestly a disgrace that they leave more iconic and popular champs in the trash bin and more obscure or canonically not as powerful characters get much better abilities.

Thor, a god, is mid in this game which really annoys me. He’s decent since he has armor breaks in his kit when awakened, but there’s so many cosmic champs that are better. I want Thor to be a go to option.

Cyclops, the iconic leader of the X-Men is the longest running meme currently. Two versions and they both suck and have virtually nothing that sets them apart from each other other than minor abilities and synergies.

Iron Man, Captain America, Captain Marvel, and Spider-Man. Should we make these iconic characters awesome? Nah, let’s just make movie versions of them all and monetize that instead.

I am glad that they did buff some of the characters. Magneto, Hawkeye, Hulk, Gamora, and Colossus buffs have been pretty amazing, but they really need to finish the job with Thor, Iron Man, Drax, Starlord, Cyclops, etc.

Vegeta9001

You can add all these new cool champions to the game but when you're stuffing out the 7* crystals with dumpster fire unusable champions then it's going to suck bad. Imagine saving 7* shards as a semi-new player hoping to finally buff your roster and you pull a drax or ironman.

ThePredator1001

I like the balancing program. It keeps the new champs from being terrible. Look at Shuri and Attuma, two champs that went from forgettable to top of the game. That being said I don’t see why they can’t buff and old champ along side balancing the new champs. With the balancing it’s only a few abilities changed. Like when they balanced mantis they only made one or two small changes, they should be able to buff one champ along side that.

Ruwqiersa

Depends on whats old or new

pseudosane

I'd strike a fair balance between the two.

Agent_7

GotG3: OctoGroot. Opportunity missed.

Dukenpuke

Icy000

they should test their new champions before release and buff old champions

iDestroyerZ

~~Inferior~~ superior iron man has the same horrible effect in all 3 of his special attacks, it's so bad it hurts cause superior iron man could have amazing different abilities
I get that he was made to be a copy cat of og iron man but that was 8 years ago
The excuse ''we want some champions to be simple because of new players and bla bla bla'' doesn't work for me because:
1) you can have simple characters without making them a simple ctrl c + ctrl v in his abilities
2) if a character is way too simple, new players might struggle a lot when playing with new champions (a 3* version of them) because they came to a really simple character to one that requires specific things/skills to learn
He doesn't need a buff, he needs a full overhaul

Magrailothos

I only vote this way because it’s honestly a disgrace that they leave more iconic and popular champs in the trash bin and more obscure or canonically not as powerful characters get much better abilities.

Thor, a god, is mid in this game which really annoys me. He’s decent since he has armor breaks in his kit when awakened, but there’s so many cosmic champs that are better. I want Thor to be a go to option.

Cyclops, the iconic leader of the X-Men is the longest running meme currently. Two versions and they both suck and have virtually nothing that sets them apart from each other other than minor abilities and synergies.

Iron Man, Captain America, Captain Marvel, and Spider-Man. Should we make these iconic characters awesome? Nah, let’s just make movie versions of them all and monetize that instead.

I am glad that they did buff some of the characters. Magneto, Hawkeye, Hulk, Gamora, and Colossus buffs have been pretty amazing, but they really need to finish the job with Thor, Iron Man, Drax, Starlord, Cyclops, etc.

I just wanted to quote this so that people get the chance to agree with it again... 👍👍👍

zernix

My problem with the focus on new champs things is it feels like they're using it as an excuse to just drop the buff program for old champs.

Look at Mantis. They slightly increased her fury potency and added an extra mixed emotions when attacking block. You're telling me that was so resource intensive they couldn't buff an old champion?

Cassie is having her taunt reduced and Fam's glancing is getting fixed, is that really that time consuming to fix?

Same thing with Abs man and Zemo, turning off Abs man starting regen and Zemos cleanse doesn't seem like that big of a fix that no old champ could be looked at.

Even if they just did a value and slight tweak like Iceman that took a mid tier champ from OK to good but still not god tier. There's dozens of champs who just need a small tweak and would actually be usable, and then save full reworks for months where new champs don't need any work.

Maybe if every time they redid an old champ they sold a bundle in the unit store to attract whales it might be enough to make it worth their while? Idk

Sw0rdMaster

Instead of releasing 2 new champs a month, they can release 1 and buff 1 old one.

Harryatomix

All the Champs are bound to come out as 7 star maybe they should buff the terrible champs like VTD before they put them in 7 star pool.

All that I am saying is not every new champ needs fix they can use that time to buff older champs as well.

Mr.0-8-4

@Kabam Miike

For our next Twitch stream, would you guys be open to the idea of showing us the decision making process when it comes to choosing old champs to buff? I've always wondered what are your KPI's for determining your decision.

Magrailothos

All the Champs are bound to come out as 7 star maybe they should buff the terrible champs like VTD before they put them in 7 star pool.

All that I am saying is not every new champ needs fix they can use that time to buff older champs as well.

Or at least buff the most outdated champions before they go into the 7* pool...

Ansh_A

I think the upcoming featured roster that can be seen in the current pre-release crystal unit deal, is a classix example of why unbuffed old champs are a problem. That featured roster has some of the worst old champs in the game meaning there are going to be a lot of dud draws in the featured.

All champs need to be viable. Situational, specific for certain formats, good for synergies, etc. is fine but there are too manh champs that have no purpose in your roster at all and so a champion buff program is more helpful than continuously adding more champs to the game.

Ercarret

I think making sure that new champs won't need buffs down the line is ultimately the best way to go about it. It's not ideal if every new champ is getting a tweak and there's no room for buffs for older champions (which has seemed to be the case lately), but I don't think anyone wants to pull a new champ and have that be a dud. I think that's more harmful to the game in the long run. It's much easier to swallow if it's an OG champ.

__SF__

Is there an option for ignore relics and focus on reworking old champs ?

Csutton

Both. New champs should be re-balanced if needed and they should continue to Beth some of the old ones that are pretty much useless.

Chris_Summers

Hey everyone,

As the title suggests, if Kabam asked you what your preference was between investing time & effort in buffing old champs or focusing more on newer champs, what would your answer be and why?

Option C: both.