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I'm entitled and want easy top rewards without facing strong competition Master Thread!

ChatterofforumsChatterofforums Posts: 1,779 ★★★★★
edited September 2023 in General Discussion
Since we get about a dozen new posts daily from entitled players with weaker rosters and lower skills complaining about facing stronger player while competing for same rewards as them, figures I'd give ya all a Master Thread post.

For those who think you should go straight to the top in BG without facing stronger players than you then This post is for you.

Entitled players post your entitled gripes here and stop making so many ridiculous entitled posts thinking you deserve to compete for top game competition rank rewards without having to face players stronger than you, meaning thinking you deserve same or better rewards than those far superior than you.
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    Crossy76Crossy76 Posts: 81
    edited September 2023
    wants weaker opponents ? NO
    wants similar opponents ? yes
    if weaker players should not get same rewards without beating whales then whales should not get those rewards by crushing weaker as well
    whole point is to provide similar pressure for all
    whales should face whales
    weaker should face weaker
    in both cases pressure will be same so earning same rewards makes sense
    no one is complaining about matching whales in GC
    there is always more fat rewards in GC for superior players
    VT should be similar experience for all and GC should be for competition
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    BringPopcornBringPopcorn Posts: 3,228 ★★★★★
    There is a pretty big gap between "fair" and "winnable"
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,334 ★★★★★
    Maat1985 said:

    This is an ignorant Post.
    I'm pretty sure the Paragons who were stuck in Gold had the same complaints.
    No one wants easy Rewards. No one is entitled. Certainly not every person who has a problem with the changes.
    People want to play in a competition that doesn't trap them into having no option but to take Losses and hope for a Win or two every 2 days.
    People want to be able to progress where they're at in the competition without being told that their problems are just entitlement, and that they deserve to lose.
    This take is immature.

    Whilst I agree this post is stupid.
    you are trying to make a point but you have made some factually incorrect points that just make me not even read properly and take notice of what you have to say as it is clear you are just saying whatever.

    No one wants easy Rewards

    Untrue. there is plenty of players that want nothing other than easy rewards. whilst even those players that do want challenging content will also gladly accept easy rewards. as long as the easy rewards are not the only rewards and they also have challenging content

    No one is entitled

    This is once again factually incorrect. there is an abundance of entitled people in the community.
    heck just in society as a whole.
    threads like " i spent on crystals kabam needs to give me a good champ" "i am only uncollected but want to be in gladiator circuit" all kinds of different thought process where people want things gifted to them and want a free or easy ride.

    Not everyone is like this.
    But to say those people do not exist within the community is laughable

    To generalize the entire grievance as being entitled and wanting easy Rewards is arrogant at best.
    I didn't say "No one is entitled ever. No one ever wants free Rewards. No one exists like that.". I said certainly not everyone who has a problem with these changes. I'm pretty sure the context of this subject matter was implied. If not, now you know.
    Also, I see what you did there, and people are not happy with the BG situation. A number of people. Unless it's some kind of mass psychosis, there's probably truth to it.
    What you don't see is them posting against others because they're afraid someone will listen to them. You don't see them belittling the problems others are having. You don't see them attacking the concerns of people they don't agree with. For all intents and purposes, I'll add "overall" to appease your arguments.
    Also, I'm not big on self-deprecating, but if this many people agree with "GroundedWisdom" in a comment, there's probably truth there somewhere.
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    startropicsstartropics Posts: 667 ★★★★
    OP may be harsh but there's truth to it. going up against stacked decks must suck but everyone's fighting for the same rewards so it only makes sense that the best win.
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    Maat1985Maat1985 Posts: 2,237 ★★★★
    so annoying when you type a reply and then it gets stuck in moderator approval land.
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    Graves_3Graves_3 Posts: 1,345 ★★★★★

    Maat1985 said:

    This is an ignorant Post.
    I'm pretty sure the Paragons who were stuck in Gold had the same complaints.
    No one wants easy Rewards. No one is entitled. Certainly not every person who has a problem with the changes.
    People want to play in a competition that doesn't trap them into having no option but to take Losses and hope for a Win or two every 2 days.
    People want to be able to progress where they're at in the competition without being told that their problems are just entitlement, and that they deserve to lose.
    This take is immature.

    Whilst I agree this post is stupid.
    you are trying to make a point but you have made some factually incorrect points that just make me not even read properly and take notice of what you have to say as it is clear you are just saying whatever.

    No one wants easy Rewards

    Untrue. there is plenty of players that want nothing other than easy rewards. whilst even those players that do want challenging content will also gladly accept easy rewards. as long as the easy rewards are not the only rewards and they also have challenging content

    No one is entitled

    This is once again factually incorrect. there is an abundance of entitled people in the community.
    heck just in society as a whole.
    threads like " i spent on crystals kabam needs to give me a good champ" "i am only uncollected but want to be in gladiator circuit" all kinds of different thought process where people want things gifted to them and want a free or easy ride.

    Not everyone is like this.
    But to say those people do not exist within the community is laughable

    To generalize the entire grievance as being entitled and wanting easy Rewards is arrogant at best.
    I didn't say "No one is entitled ever. No one ever wants free Rewards. No one exists like that.". I said certainly not everyone who has a problem with these changes. I'm pretty sure the context of this subject matter was implied. If not, now you know.
    Also, I see what you did there, and people are not happy with the BG situation. A number of people. Unless it's some kind of mass psychosis, there's probably truth to it.
    What you don't see is them posting against others because they're afraid someone will listen to them. You don't see them belittling the problems others are having. You don't see them attacking the concerns of people they don't agree with. For all intents and purposes, I'll add "overall" to appease your arguments.
    Also, I'm not big on self-deprecating, but if this many people agree with "GroundedWisdom" in a comment, there's probably truth there somewhere.
    Conversely does it mean if many people disagree with ’groundedwisdom’ that there is no truth anywhere in that comment?
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,334 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    Maat1985 said:

    This is an ignorant Post.
    I'm pretty sure the Paragons who were stuck in Gold had the same complaints.
    No one wants easy Rewards. No one is entitled. Certainly not every person who has a problem with the changes.
    People want to play in a competition that doesn't trap them into having no option but to take Losses and hope for a Win or two every 2 days.
    People want to be able to progress where they're at in the competition without being told that their problems are just entitlement, and that they deserve to lose.
    This take is immature.

    Whilst I agree this post is stupid.
    you are trying to make a point but you have made some factually incorrect points that just make me not even read properly and take notice of what you have to say as it is clear you are just saying whatever.

    No one wants easy Rewards

    Untrue. there is plenty of players that want nothing other than easy rewards. whilst even those players that do want challenging content will also gladly accept easy rewards. as long as the easy rewards are not the only rewards and they also have challenging content

    No one is entitled

    This is once again factually incorrect. there is an abundance of entitled people in the community.
    heck just in society as a whole.
    threads like " i spent on crystals kabam needs to give me a good champ" "i am only uncollected but want to be in gladiator circuit" all kinds of different thought process where people want things gifted to them and want a free or easy ride.

    Not everyone is like this.
    But to say those people do not exist within the community is laughable

    To generalize the entire grievance as being entitled and wanting easy Rewards is arrogant at best.
    I didn't say "No one is entitled ever. No one ever wants free Rewards. No one exists like that.". I said certainly not everyone who has a problem with these changes. I'm pretty sure the context of this subject matter was implied. If not, now you know.
    Also, I see what you did there, and people are not happy with the BG situation. A number of people. Unless it's some kind of mass psychosis, there's probably truth to it.
    What you don't see is them posting against others because they're afraid someone will listen to them. You don't see them belittling the problems others are having. You don't see them attacking the concerns of people they don't agree with. For all intents and purposes, I'll add "overall" to appease your arguments.
    Also, I'm not big on self-deprecating, but if this many people agree with "GroundedWisdom" in a comment, there's probably truth there somewhere.
    Conversely does it mean if many people disagree with ’groundedwisdom’ that there is no truth anywhere in that comment?
    It's possible. No one knows everything. I'd say the vast majority of Disagrees on my Profile are just spammed.
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    ahmynutsahmynuts Posts: 6,446 ★★★★★
    Maat1985 said:

    so annoying when you type a reply and then it gets stuck in moderator approval land.

    They never see the light of day
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    BringPopcornBringPopcorn Posts: 3,228 ★★★★★
    Make everyone start in GC, gonna be a lot of fun to see people trying to do the objectives every 48 hrs.
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    BringPopcornBringPopcorn Posts: 3,228 ★★★★★

    wants weaker opponents ? NO
    wants similar opponents ? yes
    if weaker players should not get same rewards without beating whales then whales should not get those rewards by crushing weaker as well
    whole point is to provide similar pressure for all
    whales should face whales
    weaker should face weaker
    in both cases pressure will be same so earning same rewards makes sense
    no one is complaining about matching whales in GC
    there is always more fat rewards in GC for superior players
    VT should be similar experience for all and GC should be for competition

    There is always more fat rewards in GC? If u just play to get there its like 10k trophies, hardly A BIG FAT reward for the effort.
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    RasiloverRasilover Posts: 1,469 ★★★★
    edited September 2023

    Since we get about a dozen new posts daily from entitled players with weaker rosters and lower skills complaining about facing stronger player while competing for same rewards as them, figures I'd give ya all a Master Thread post.

    For those who think you should go straight to the top in BG without facing stronger players than you then This post is for you.

    Entitled players post your entitled gripes here and stop making so many ridiculous entitled posts thinking you deserve to compete for top game competition rank rewards without having to face players stronger than you, meaning thinking you deserve same or better rewards than those far superior than you.


    You’re spitting but they don’t wanna hear it 🫢
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,334 ★★★★★
    edited September 2023
    That's not facts. That's the exaggerated judgment of people who have no respect for the issues presented. Quite frankly, it's hypocritical because when the shoe is on the other foot, there's the entitled response that they deserve to have easier Matches, rank higher because they're bigger, and are owed the right to stomp lower Accounts because that's a competition and people are playing for the same Rewards.
    It has nothing to do with wanting a fast track to the GC, or spoon-fed Rewards. It has to do with the unrealistic goals that serve about a handful of Players, and stop anyone else from even caring to try. That's more than what is necessary for a competitive mode.
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,334 ★★★★★
    edited September 2023
    Have more respect for people than this. You don't have to agree with their stance. You don't have to agree with their complaints. They still have the right to complain, and they don't need to be scoffed at like this.
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    BringPopcornBringPopcorn Posts: 3,228 ★★★★★
    Rewarding stronger and better players is everywhere in the game, expecting any different in a PVP yes a PLAYER VS PLAYER competition doesnt make any sense, someone will win someone will lose, someone will win more and someone will lose more.
    People complain about the extra tiers, extra tiers means more rewards too.
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    Maat1985Maat1985 Posts: 2,237 ★★★★
    edited September 2023

    That's not facts. That's the exaggerated judgment of people who have no respect for the issues presented. Quite frankly, it's hypocritical because when the shoe is on the other foot, there's the entitled response that they deserve to have easier Matches, rank higher because they're bigger, and are owed the right to stomp lower Accounts because that's a competition and people are playing for the same Rewards.
    It has nothing to do with wanting a fast track to the GC, or spoon-fed Rewards. It has to do with the unrealistic goals that serve about a handful of Players, and stop anyone else from even caring to try. That's more than what is necessary for a competitive mode.

    OPs post is just as exaggerated as the reply saying

    No one wants easy Rewards. No one is entitled

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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,334 ★★★★★
    Maat1985 said:

    That's not facts. That's the exaggerated judgment of people who have no respect for the issues presented. Quite frankly, it's hypocritical because when the shoe is on the other foot, there's the entitled response that they deserve to have easier Matches, rank higher because they're bigger, and are owed the right to stomp lower Accounts because that's a competition and people are playing for the same Rewards.
    It has nothing to do with wanting a fast track to the GC, or spoon-fed Rewards. It has to do with the unrealistic goals that serve about a handful of Players, and stop anyone else from even caring to try. That's more than what is necessary for a competitive mode.

    OPs post is just as exaggerated as the reply saying

    No one wants easy Rewards. No one is entitled

    Didn't we go over this? I smell a Red Herring.
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,334 ★★★★★

    Rewarding stronger and better players is everywhere in the game, expecting any different in a PVP yes a PLAYER VS PLAYER competition doesnt make any sense, someone will win someone will lose, someone will win more and someone will lose more.
    People complain about the extra tiers, extra tiers means more rewards too.

    Sure. For the 10% that are able to get past them.
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    BringPopcornBringPopcorn Posts: 3,228 ★★★★★

    Rewarding stronger and better players is everywhere in the game, expecting any different in a PVP yes a PLAYER VS PLAYER competition doesnt make any sense, someone will win someone will lose, someone will win more and someone will lose more.
    People complain about the extra tiers, extra tiers means more rewards too.

    Sure. For the 10% that are able to get past them.
    10% I doubt MCoC is a multi million dollar game thanks to 100k players...
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    GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Posts: 36,334 ★★★★★

    Rewarding stronger and better players is everywhere in the game, expecting any different in a PVP yes a PLAYER VS PLAYER competition doesnt make any sense, someone will win someone will lose, someone will win more and someone will lose more.
    People complain about the extra tiers, extra tiers means more rewards too.

    Sure. For the 10% that are able to get past them.
    10% I doubt MCoC is a multi million dollar game thanks to 100k players...
    I'm not sure how you got all of the Player base from what I said. Regardless, if you think BGs is designed and maintained for the people who "pay the bills", there's not much sense in discussing the system with that stance.
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    Maat1985Maat1985 Posts: 2,237 ★★★★

    Maat1985 said:

    That's not facts. That's the exaggerated judgment of people who have no respect for the issues presented. Quite frankly, it's hypocritical because when the shoe is on the other foot, there's the entitled response that they deserve to have easier Matches, rank higher because they're bigger, and are owed the right to stomp lower Accounts because that's a competition and people are playing for the same Rewards.
    It has nothing to do with wanting a fast track to the GC, or spoon-fed Rewards. It has to do with the unrealistic goals that serve about a handful of Players, and stop anyone else from even caring to try. That's more than what is necessary for a competitive mode.

    OPs post is just as exaggerated as the reply saying

    No one wants easy Rewards. No one is entitled

    Didn't we go over this? I smell a Red Herring.
    well my reply to you there has got stuck in approval land so no.....
    you said your bit but i did not have my right of reply.
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    BringPopcornBringPopcorn Posts: 3,228 ★★★★★

    Rewarding stronger and better players is everywhere in the game, expecting any different in a PVP yes a PLAYER VS PLAYER competition doesnt make any sense, someone will win someone will lose, someone will win more and someone will lose more.
    People complain about the extra tiers, extra tiers means more rewards too.

    Sure. For the 10% that are able to get past them.
    10% I doubt MCoC is a multi million dollar game thanks to 100k players...
    I'm not sure how you got all of the Player base from what I said. Regardless, if you think BGs is designed and maintained for the people who "pay the bills", there's not much sense in discussing the system with that stance.
    So how is "number on player base" wrong, but you can make the statement that BGs is for people who pay the bills? 🤣🤣 Please tell me you are not gonna call them P2W.
    They already got matchmaking shelter until Plat and more rewards in the track that should be plenty, but its not enough.
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