Battleground matchmaking

Charliejiggens

My account is qt the bottom how am i getting matched to a kabam devolper who is paragon 4 mill rating compaird to my just a mill team this is not a fair match up madness a kabam devopler pleasse dont tell me ik the onky one who has had a match up like this im only cavailer

Pikolu

Welcome to plat 2

Ironman3000

WTF do they keep letting these players into Plat so easily?

mbgibson

Charliejiggens said:

A kqbam devolper thats just madness shoukd never be mwtched agaisnt him at all im in complete shock

How come you should not match with someone in the same tier as you? Fairness is not about giving you (or anyone for that matter) an equal chance of winning. It is fair in the sense that the matchmaking is open with no manipulation, rules/nodes for both players are the same, and points are awarded equally for performance.

It is a highly competitive mode not meant to handicap anyone.

Ayden_noah1

In Platinum 3 and above it's all open season, no more easy same strength match. It's been this way for at least 2 seasons now. My account is at 4 million and for some reason mostly face bigger accounts. But that's life in BG once you get to Platinum 3 or lower. Welcome to the jungle....

WinterFields

Win or lose I think it would be cool to face a Kabam developer

Abspain101

Plat 2 through diamond have been open season for atleast the last 3 to 4 seasons that's nothing new

Greekhit

Abspain101 said:

Plat 2 through diamond have been open season for atleast the last 3 to 4 seasons that's nothing new

With seeding active ALL VT tiers should be open without rigged matchmaking.
Kabam has no excuses for not having completely RANDOM matchmaking at all tiers.
At this point any parameter to the matchmaking, is direct thieving rewards of bigger accounts 😠

ahmynuts

Greekhit said:

Abspain101 said:

Plat 2 through diamond have been open season for atleast the last 3 to 4 seasons that's nothing new

With seeding active ALL VT tiers should be open without rigged matchmaking.
Kabam has no excuses for not having completely RANDOM matchmaking at all tiers.
At this point any parameter to the matchmaking, is direct thieving rewards of bigger accounts 😠

No, it should be random, so it pretty much is. Thieving rewards, as you put it would be them skewing the matchmaking.

Ruwqiersa

Charliejiggens said:

My account is qt the bottom how am i getting matched to a kabam devolper who is paragon 4 mill rating compaird to my just a mill team this is not a fair match up madness a kabam devopler pleasse dont tell me ik the onky one who has had a match up like this im only cavailer

I will try to take your revenge if i ever face him

Jaycray81

Ironman3000 said:

WTF do they keep letting these players into Plat so easily?

Maybe they should just make the game mode for Paragon players.

MikeHancho31

It all comes down to skill. I might have a rating of 3 million but I get pitted against even bigger accounts and still win or pitted against someone with a 1.5 million rating and lose. It just matters if the other person **** up more then you.

BringPopcorn

Oh no! 3 million rating, 2 million is from 1-4* 🤣

Agent_7

Charliejiggens said:

My account is qt the bottom how am i getting matched to a kabam devolper who is paragon 4 mill rating compaird to my just a mill team this is not a fair match up madness a kabam devopler pleasse dont tell me ik the onky one who has had a match up like this im only cavailer

I think we need to upgrade you to the casual Paragon experience, where every roster you face at the beginning of the season in Bronze has R4 of pretty much every painful defender you can imagine and they’re all running ouchies. Might lend some perspective on that cheesecake path to Platinum.

KTPrimal

Ironman3000 said:

WTF do they keep letting these players into Plat so easily?

Because it's not a competitive mode.

Chuck_Finley

Never fails - every season facing 3-4 million accounts every match and spinning my wheels in gold tiers while someone who is cavalier starts complaining about seeing them for the first time in platinum.

Matchmaking sucks… but not for the reason you posted, OP

Smoky_4i20

Matchmaking should be based on deck strength, the entire Battleground should be like GC , you get points and climb ranks, points should be given by deck strength too , so lower accounts wouldn't be getting more points than stronger accounts, the way BG is right now is just broken, you can't play at all , you get punished for going above plat2 if you're not a whale .

DNA3000

KTPrimal said:

Ironman3000 said:

WTF do they keep letting these players into Plat so easily?

Because it's not a competitive mode.

Correction, Platinum 2 is when it becomes a competition. Bronze, Silver and Gold are 80% participation, 20% competition. Platinum 2 is basically the reverse.

DNA3000

Smoky_4i20 said:

Matchmaking should be based on deck strength, the entire Battleground should be like GC , you get points and climb ranks, points should be given by deck strength too , so lower accounts wouldn't be getting more points than stronger accounts, the way BG is right now is just broken, you can't play at all , you get punished for going above plat2 if you're not a whale .

Yeah, the entire battlegrounds should be like GC. In GC, matches are done purely by rating. Nothing else counts. If the entire BG was run like GC, we wouldn't have nearly as many low strength players complaining about unbalanced matches in Platinum 2 or higher, because almost none of them would *get* to Platinum 2 or higher.

The reason why low roster players are "punished" for getting to Platinum 2 is because in a fair competition they would never get there in the first place. The game gives them an easy path to P2 to allow them to participate without getting killed by the competition. That easy path ends in P2, when they start to see what they would have been seeing all along had the game not been protecting them from the wider competition for ten VT tiers.

Chuck_Finley

DNA3000 said:

KTPrimal said:

Ironman3000 said:

WTF do they keep letting these players into Plat so easily?

Because it's not a competitive mode.

Correction, Platinum 2 is when it becomes a competition. Bronze, Silver and Gold are 80% participation, 20% competition. Platinum 2 is basically the reverse.

If you have a lower roster, correct.. If you are paragon with any sort of roster, the competition starts immediately no matter the rank.

Smoky_4i20

DNA3000 said:

Smoky_4i20 said:

Matchmaking should be based on deck strength, the entire Battleground should be like GC , you get points and climb ranks, points should be given by deck strength too , so lower accounts wouldn't be getting more points than stronger accounts, the way BG is right now is just broken, you can't play at all , you get punished for going above plat2 if you're not a whale .

Yeah, the entire battlegrounds should be like GC. In GC, matches are done purely by rating. Nothing else counts. If the entire BG was run like GC, we wouldn't have nearly as many low strength players complaining about unbalanced matches in Platinum 2 or higher, because almost none of them would *get* to Platinum 2 or higher.

The reason why low roster players are "punished" for getting to Platinum 2 is because in a fair competition they would never get there in the first place. The game gives them an easy path to P2 to allow them to participate without getting killed by the competition. That easy path ends in P2, when they start to see what they would have been seeing all along had the game not been protecting them from the wider competition for ten VT tiers.

That's why it should be based on deck strength, and be like CG because of the points , there's no easy path to to play 2 , winning a fair match is not easy every time ,weaker acc should be given less points based on deck strength, y'all saying that fighting another person with the same deck strength is just easy , but you probably lose to ppl with accounts of the the same tier as your's

Smoky_4i20

DNA3000 said:

Smoky_4i20 said:

Matchmaking should be based on deck strength, the entire Battleground should be like GC , you get points and climb ranks, points should be given by deck strength too , so lower accounts wouldn't be getting more points than stronger accounts, the way BG is right now is just broken, you can't play at all , you get punished for going above plat2 if you're not a whale .

Yeah, the entire battlegrounds should be like GC. In GC, matches are done purely by rating. Nothing else counts. If the entire BG was run like GC, we wouldn't have nearly as many low strength players complaining about unbalanced matches in Platinum 2 or higher, because almost none of them would *get* to Platinum 2 or higher.

The reason why low roster players are "punished" for getting to Platinum 2 is because in a fair competition they would never get there in the first place. The game gives them an easy path to P2 to allow them to participate without getting killed by the competition. That easy path ends in P2, when they start to see what they would have been seeing all along had the game not been protecting them from the wider competition for ten VT tiers.

I got to diamond 4, I have no R5s only 4 R4s and several R1and R2 6 stars in my deck , been facing decks 3 times stronger than mine , and yes being punished for trying to get better rewards

Pikolu

Smoky_4i20 said:

DNA3000 said:

Smoky_4i20 said:

Matchmaking should be based on deck strength, the entire Battleground should be like GC , you get points and climb ranks, points should be given by deck strength too , so lower accounts wouldn't be getting more points than stronger accounts, the way BG is right now is just broken, you can't play at all , you get punished for going above plat2 if you're not a whale .

Yeah, the entire battlegrounds should be like GC. In GC, matches are done purely by rating. Nothing else counts. If the entire BG was run like GC, we wouldn't have nearly as many low strength players complaining about unbalanced matches in Platinum 2 or higher, because almost none of them would *get* to Platinum 2 or higher.

The reason why low roster players are "punished" for getting to Platinum 2 is because in a fair competition they would never get there in the first place. The game gives them an easy path to P2 to allow them to participate without getting killed by the competition. That easy path ends in P2, when they start to see what they would have been seeing all along had the game not been protecting them from the wider competition for ten VT tiers.

That's why it should be based on deck strength, and be like CG because of the points , there's no easy path to to play 2 , winning a fair match is not easy every time ,weaker acc should be given less points based on deck strength, y'all saying that fighting another person with the same deck strength is just easy , but you probably lose to ppl with accounts of the the same tier as your's

BGs originally matched on deck strength which led people to putting 2*s in their deck for easier matches. Your proposed solution has already been tried and tested and proved to be ineffective. What BGs should actually do is completely ignore your deck strength and roster rating and just match people based on where they are.

Smoky_4i20

But because of whales that already have everything would cry because ppl that never wasted money , could get better rewards just because they only had to face fair match's , kabam did this to the matchmaking. Whales that can't win a fair match crying because weaker accounts player's could win so sad

GroundedWisdom

DNA3000 said:

Smoky_4i20 said:

Matchmaking should be based on deck strength, the entire Battleground should be like GC , you get points and climb ranks, points should be given by deck strength too , so lower accounts wouldn't be getting more points than stronger accounts, the way BG is right now is just broken, you can't play at all , you get punished for going above plat2 if you're not a whale .

Yeah, the entire battlegrounds should be like GC. In GC, matches are done purely by rating. Nothing else counts. If the entire BG was run like GC, we wouldn't have nearly as many low strength players complaining about unbalanced matches in Platinum 2 or higher, because almost none of them would *get* to Platinum 2 or higher.

The reason why low roster players are "punished" for getting to Platinum 2 is because in a fair competition they would never get there in the first place. The game gives them an easy path to P2 to allow them to participate without getting killed by the competition. That easy path ends in P2, when they start to see what they would have been seeing all along had the game not been protecting them from the wider competition for ten VT tiers.

This I'm going to have to disagree with. What's the sense of having a VT if you're going to stomp the progress of Players at the gate?
People complain here on a daily basis. The fact that higher Players are offended by lower Players struggling is just arrogance honestly.
Everyone has the right to speak to their own experience playing the game. Belittling them is not a productive way of communicating to them.

Smoky_4i20

Chuck_Finley said:

DNA3000 said:

KTPrimal said:

Ironman3000 said:

WTF do they keep letting these players into Plat so easily?

Because it's not a competitive mode.

Correction, Platinum 2 is when it becomes a competition. Bronze, Silver and Gold are 80% participation, 20% competition. Platinum 2 is basically the reverse.

If you have a lower roster, correct.. If you are paragon with any sort of roster, the competition starts immediately no matter the rank.

Winning a fair match is not easy so stop crying, the matchmaking sucks , if it was easy there would be no whales stuck in plat 2 , and kabam probably didn't wanted to lock ppl in plat 2 , is just a bunch of bad players stuck in there holding weaker accounts from progess

BringPopcorn

Smoky_4i20 said:

DNA3000 said:

Smoky_4i20 said:

Matchmaking should be based on deck strength, the entire Battleground should be like GC , you get points and climb ranks, points should be given by deck strength too , so lower accounts wouldn't be getting more points than stronger accounts, the way BG is right now is just broken, you can't play at all , you get punished for going above plat2 if you're not a whale .

Yeah, the entire battlegrounds should be like GC. In GC, matches are done purely by rating. Nothing else counts. If the entire BG was run like GC, we wouldn't have nearly as many low strength players complaining about unbalanced matches in Platinum 2 or higher, because almost none of them would *get* to Platinum 2 or higher.

The reason why low roster players are "punished" for getting to Platinum 2 is because in a fair competition they would never get there in the first place. The game gives them an easy path to P2 to allow them to participate without getting killed by the competition. That easy path ends in P2, when they start to see what they would have been seeing all along had the game not been protecting them from the wider competition for ten VT tiers.

That's why it should be based on deck strength, and be like CG because of the points , there's no easy path to to play 2 , winning a fair match is not easy every time ,weaker acc should be given less points based on deck strength, y'all saying that fighting another person with the same deck strength is just easy , but you probably lose to ppl with accounts of the the same tier as your's

It was like that, then you had people manipulating it. Putting 1 and 2 stars in the deck to get easy matches

Ironman3000

Jaycray81 said:

Ironman3000 said:

WTF do they keep letting these players into Plat so easily?

Maybe they should just make the game mode for Paragon players.

I'd be fine with that. Let the low players do all the other stuff in the game that's there for them.

Bigfoot33

Jaycray81 said:

Ironman3000 said:

WTF do they keep letting these players into Plat so easily?

Maybe they should just make the game mode for Paragon players.

That'll teach him to complain about fairness. 😆

But in all honesty, the only way to lower the amount matchmaking complaints like these is like you said, paragon only. Or have 2 separate battlegrounds with 2 separate rankings and 2 largely different set of rewards.

But I still see the lower bracket complaining about why the paragon bracket gets better rewards. So, IDK.

Ironman3000

Smoky_4i20 said:

DNA3000 said:

Smoky_4i20 said:

Matchmaking should be based on deck strength, the entire Battleground should be like GC , you get points and climb ranks, points should be given by deck strength too , so lower accounts wouldn't be getting more points than stronger accounts, the way BG is right now is just broken, you can't play at all , you get punished for going above plat2 if you're not a whale .

Yeah, the entire battlegrounds should be like GC. In GC, matches are done purely by rating. Nothing else counts. If the entire BG was run like GC, we wouldn't have nearly as many low strength players complaining about unbalanced matches in Platinum 2 or higher, because almost none of them would *get* to Platinum 2 or higher.

The reason why low roster players are "punished" for getting to Platinum 2 is because in a fair competition they would never get there in the first place. The game gives them an easy path to P2 to allow them to participate without getting killed by the competition. That easy path ends in P2, when they start to see what they would have been seeing all along had the game not been protecting them from the wider competition for ten VT tiers.

That's why it should be based on deck strength, and be like CG because of the points , there's no easy path to to play 2 , winning a fair match is not easy every time ,weaker acc should be given less points based on deck strength, y'all saying that fighting another person with the same deck strength is just easy , but you probably lose to ppl with accounts of the the same tier as your's

You have no idea what you're talking about. Please explain why you should advance higher than the guys who are smoking you in Plat?