Rankups I regret
Milan1405
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Hey guys, just wanted to see which rankups people regretted doing (either r5 6 stars or r2 7 stars). I've posted mine below so people don't make the same mistakes I did, or at least are more knowledgable before making their decision.
MYSTICS:
Rintrah - he is great for battlegrounds defence. That's it. I hate using him in questing or war where tigra, hood, doom etc all outclass him massively and he relies far too much on sp2 crits (rare) for bgs attack so I can't get any consistent wins with him in high tier bgs. Also his defensive value has dropped as people have got used to fighting him over time and the fact that time matters less now also lowers his defensive value as sometimes I see my opponent take a good 30 seconds longer than me with the likes of kingpin but wins in this scoring system as it is easy to finish at 100% health if you slow play it, same for other champs.
Sassy - very happy with my awakened 7 star, great on defence and surprisingly fun to use on offence.
Doom - mystic king, zero regrets
Abs man - mixed feelings here. Phenomenal defender a couple of seasons ago but now people regularly destroy him with hulk, titania, torch, scorp and a bunch of science champs, not to mention others like aa and even Ive seen doom nimgod kp and many others take him recently; celestial and mysterium players know how to rinse him these days. As for attack he has a fantastic amount that he can do, but in battlegrounds sadly he is only viable in specific matchups where he excels like hulklings. But with the new war structure I may need him on attack for hazard shift or something and his value may rise again. But for bgs I would say a skilled tigra player would get more wins from a r5 tigra on offence than r5 abs man attacking or defending.
COSMICS:
Herc - simply the best champ in the game
Galan - seem to use him a bit less in bgs these days but fantastic in war and still great, no regrets
Hulkling - honestly use him much more for attack than defence these days. Can kill a bunch of champs sub 50 seconds with full health remaining, and many mystics shred him, and others like kp valk hulk, even hulkling can do hulkling. Overall very happy with ranking him up
TECHS:
Nimgod - mutant slayer, zero regrets
Warlock - great in bgs and insane power control as opponents always run willpower
MUTANTS:
Kitty pryde - I'm not a god at playing kitty but she is a great all round champ, really like her with the tigra synergy
AA - absolute beast and common win condition in bgs
SKILL:
NF - I run 5/5 deep wounds and he is ridiculous everywhere, even bgs attack where he shreds quicksilvers, spots, void and rinses electro, even does well against doom and can trick opponents who think I'll use him for defence. Absolute unit in war too and can take fights you wouldn't think possible like hazard shift nodes. Needs max DW tho to be the skill king. I would consider myself 'very high skill' with NF and he is one of my absolute favourite champions and I use him everywhere.
KP - absolute beast. Usually doesn't offer much on defence but is hugely versatile on attack, killing thing, rintrah, gorr, spot, qs, hulkling, man thing, magog and always finishes at high health, even if it takes a little while longer than the 'best counter'. Absolutely love playing him when there are debuffs.
Valkyrie - honestly am in 2 minds about her. On one hand she is hugely versatile and can handle a bunch of nodes and metas extremely well in war and bgs, however I do find her to be a bit slow in a fair portion of matchups and find myself sometimes losing by a narrow margin of under 1k points as many of the other champs Ive listed here kill opponents quicker than her, even if they can't do as many, and she offers nothing defensively. But I really do like playing her so I wouldn't say I regret the rank up, but maybe someone like kate bishop could offer more value than her?
SCIENCE:
Torch - fantastic nuke, love having him at r5
Scorp - love playing this champ and can handle a lot of different fights, finishing with respectable times and pretty much always full health, can use sp2 and health siphon if needed, great for abs man for example.
Hulk - unduped 7 star and one of my all time favourites. Kabam did a fantastic job with his buff and I love how he has different rotations you can utilise depending on the fight and all his specials have their uses. Versatile nuke in bgs killing hulklings, manthings, mangogs (most champs really) with ease. Usually ends fights very quickly and at full health, also hugely fun to play.
Spot - regret this rank up as he doesn't seem to win many matchups for me when using him to attack and he often gets steam rolled in defence by common attackers, everyone knows how to fight him these days. KP, AA, NF, herc even hulk just obliterate him in under 50 seconds. Maybe quicksilver or jessica jones or someone would have been a more useful rankup.
And that's my take on my r5 champs. Overall I would say spot is my most regretted rank up, but I can only play him 'well'. I'm fully open to the possibility that if I can upgrade my skill level to 'insanely good' with him then he might do a lot more for me on attack, but it doesn't change the fact that most people I face simply breeze past him on defence. Please let us know your least favourite rank ups, or even ones that you actively regret!
MYSTICS:
Rintrah - he is great for battlegrounds defence. That's it. I hate using him in questing or war where tigra, hood, doom etc all outclass him massively and he relies far too much on sp2 crits (rare) for bgs attack so I can't get any consistent wins with him in high tier bgs. Also his defensive value has dropped as people have got used to fighting him over time and the fact that time matters less now also lowers his defensive value as sometimes I see my opponent take a good 30 seconds longer than me with the likes of kingpin but wins in this scoring system as it is easy to finish at 100% health if you slow play it, same for other champs.
Sassy - very happy with my awakened 7 star, great on defence and surprisingly fun to use on offence.
Doom - mystic king, zero regrets
Abs man - mixed feelings here. Phenomenal defender a couple of seasons ago but now people regularly destroy him with hulk, titania, torch, scorp and a bunch of science champs, not to mention others like aa and even Ive seen doom nimgod kp and many others take him recently; celestial and mysterium players know how to rinse him these days. As for attack he has a fantastic amount that he can do, but in battlegrounds sadly he is only viable in specific matchups where he excels like hulklings. But with the new war structure I may need him on attack for hazard shift or something and his value may rise again. But for bgs I would say a skilled tigra player would get more wins from a r5 tigra on offence than r5 abs man attacking or defending.
COSMICS:
Herc - simply the best champ in the game
Galan - seem to use him a bit less in bgs these days but fantastic in war and still great, no regrets
Hulkling - honestly use him much more for attack than defence these days. Can kill a bunch of champs sub 50 seconds with full health remaining, and many mystics shred him, and others like kp valk hulk, even hulkling can do hulkling. Overall very happy with ranking him up
TECHS:
Nimgod - mutant slayer, zero regrets
Warlock - great in bgs and insane power control as opponents always run willpower
MUTANTS:
Kitty pryde - I'm not a god at playing kitty but she is a great all round champ, really like her with the tigra synergy
AA - absolute beast and common win condition in bgs
SKILL:
NF - I run 5/5 deep wounds and he is ridiculous everywhere, even bgs attack where he shreds quicksilvers, spots, void and rinses electro, even does well against doom and can trick opponents who think I'll use him for defence. Absolute unit in war too and can take fights you wouldn't think possible like hazard shift nodes. Needs max DW tho to be the skill king. I would consider myself 'very high skill' with NF and he is one of my absolute favourite champions and I use him everywhere.
KP - absolute beast. Usually doesn't offer much on defence but is hugely versatile on attack, killing thing, rintrah, gorr, spot, qs, hulkling, man thing, magog and always finishes at high health, even if it takes a little while longer than the 'best counter'. Absolutely love playing him when there are debuffs.
Valkyrie - honestly am in 2 minds about her. On one hand she is hugely versatile and can handle a bunch of nodes and metas extremely well in war and bgs, however I do find her to be a bit slow in a fair portion of matchups and find myself sometimes losing by a narrow margin of under 1k points as many of the other champs Ive listed here kill opponents quicker than her, even if they can't do as many, and she offers nothing defensively. But I really do like playing her so I wouldn't say I regret the rank up, but maybe someone like kate bishop could offer more value than her?
SCIENCE:
Torch - fantastic nuke, love having him at r5
Scorp - love playing this champ and can handle a lot of different fights, finishing with respectable times and pretty much always full health, can use sp2 and health siphon if needed, great for abs man for example.
Hulk - unduped 7 star and one of my all time favourites. Kabam did a fantastic job with his buff and I love how he has different rotations you can utilise depending on the fight and all his specials have their uses. Versatile nuke in bgs killing hulklings, manthings, mangogs (most champs really) with ease. Usually ends fights very quickly and at full health, also hugely fun to play.
Spot - regret this rank up as he doesn't seem to win many matchups for me when using him to attack and he often gets steam rolled in defence by common attackers, everyone knows how to fight him these days. KP, AA, NF, herc even hulk just obliterate him in under 50 seconds. Maybe quicksilver or jessica jones or someone would have been a more useful rankup.
And that's my take on my r5 champs. Overall I would say spot is my most regretted rank up, but I can only play him 'well'. I'm fully open to the possibility that if I can upgrade my skill level to 'insanely good' with him then he might do a lot more for me on attack, but it doesn't change the fact that most people I face simply breeze past him on defence. Please let us know your least favourite rank ups, or even ones that you actively regret!
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Comments
I also kinda regret ranking up my awakened Wiccan...in my defense I only ever considered him for the reverse control phase of the Grandmaster fight....and i genuinely wish I could have gone for my, Hood or Chavez.
Ibom. I practically begged the RNG to give me him....and I rarely ever use him now. Way too many poison immune to set him in his place. Also, Spider-ham won it for me, instead of him.
Also, Bishop. I really don't like his mechanics...he's a great defender and attacker, but i fancy my Kitty, AA and Sunspot way more. And I really don't know what got me to r3 him over the others, because I just stopped using him.
The fact that I regret ranking these champions, do not mean that I hate them....they are definitely really really good champions, but I just don't find any spark or fondness towards them. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk. XD
Great list though, gives a good idea of where to focus
Also I regret r5 kp just a bit, just like moon dragon more😂
My r2 Sam is performing amazingly whenever he isn't banned, but I wish I could've duped him
I r4 sig 200 my Abs Man and no regrets. He doesnt go everywhere but with those immunities alone, i can take him against some irritating defenders like Vision Aarkus, Knull and Skrull without worry. He works very well as an all round attacker but wont be my first choice for damage.
The biggest regret for me is Spot. He is good but i find him a bit slow and the portal block is a stall tactic with AI going for heavy all the time.
Biggest surprise is Shuri. I ranked her to r2 based on people's positive reviews, r3 her based on alliance quest damage and then r4 her after seeing her destroy some difficult defenders..plus more recently she killed the gladiator paragon objectivr if defeating him 5 times with a tech. I ended battles with 80-90% health.
R3 Zemo - aside from the Root Nerf.... I mean Root Fix.... he's been a pretty underwhelming champion. I see some folks destroy with him, but to me personally, he's lacking oomph. He's annoying as a defender, when nodes are there to assist with his annoying kit, but as a player controlled champ, it's just... not there.
R3 Colossus - I finally awakened the big metal lug, but even then, when his entire damage relies on crits, and he gets one once a month on SP2. He's become a "I'll use him when I have to deal with Freezer Burn nodes or Incinerate/Coldsnap."
However, she really shines in metas such as those we've recently seen in BG, where less-chonky champs become unstoppable all the time. If the defender doesn't have an absolutely absurd health pool, she's amazing. Easily one of my favorite Skill champions at the moment.
To answer OP's question: I would have to say Rintrah and Spot. I don't "regret" ranking up Rintrah in the sense that I think it was a really bad decision and haven't gotten anything out of it, but I wouldn't have minded ranking up Absorbing Man instead since I think he's a better (or at least more often used as a) two-way champion. Rintrah almost always ends up on defense for me. That's fine since he has netted me a bunch of wins there, but I'd prefer if my first r5s were attackers. After all, placing defenders isn't "fun" in the same way as playing well offensively is.
As for Spot, I need to really learn how to play him to his max potential, I think. He's not as useful on defense as I had hoped and I don't know how to play him well enough on attack to win matches. That's probably more of a me problem than a him problem, but it's a problem nonetheless.
I think AM has a lot of value and can handle more fights than Doom in Battlegrounds well. I’d say Hood, Tigra, and Juggs take the cake when it comes to overall versatility, but AM puts in a ton of work. He’s always been super useful for war and Lags took him for 90% of the fights this past war season. He handles fights that I didn’t even think he would handle
I’m gonna have to agree with Rintrah though. He still wins me a lot of battlegrounds matches on defense, but I can’t think of the last time I needed him on offense over all the other mystics I mentioned. If he had guaranteed sp2 crits/higher crit chance, he’d be so reliable on offense
Piggybacking off the Valk being too slow, do you think she’d need/benefit more than KP for the r5 in BGs?
Is the too slow because of the time it takes to build up the pierce/bulwark? Or because she sometimes doesn’t get the kill after the first sp2 and combo (the fury expiring before enemy dies)
I use him in bg's on offense and the main rotation I'm using (block 5 hits to go untouchable, get lots of rupture charges, build block again to sp2 then untouchable punish heavy with medium sp2) just doesn't kill them in 1 rotation. And that's a problem when his rotation is already so long. Maybe I should add a sp1 for more rupture charges idk what it is but I just don't use him anymore and barely put him on def.
Also hes sig200 r4 btw.