To the people complaining about AI

I don’t understand what you people want, do you want the AI to be a complete sandbag?

The AI, is actually acting remotely like a real player, theyre parrying specials, throwing specials mid combo, and withholding specials and not just throwing them around because you decided to dash back a couple times?

Its funny because the same people who tend to want a real 1v1 (No AI) complain when the AI acts even remotely less than an idiot.

The AI actually makes you think when you play, because you dont know whats going to happen, why does everyone want a brain-dead fight, where its just parry 5 hit, bait?

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Thebombsquad1

Braindead take

GroundedWisdom

Not all of us have the finger speed of Quicksilver.

Dirty_Dozz

In game modes where time matters, like AW and BGs, yeah, it's annoying AF having to bait specials for upwards of 30 seconds (I had a Doom yesterday who literally wouldn't throw it for 57 seconds).

"Its funny because the same people who tend to want a real 1v1 (No AI) complain when the AI acts even remotely less than an idiot"

I've literally never seen anybody ask for this. Everyone would just sit back and wait for parries.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

AI is broken in some places, plain and simple

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Laceros

Braindead take

Apologies if Im not a senile old man with the attention span of a 2 year old

WinterFields

What about when the AI has incredibly fast reaction time that is faster than what a person can do? Or matches where they refuse to throw a special, unless you accidentally push them to SP3? There is a balance between an AI that is too easy and too hard

AverageDesi

Other than the Gladiator AI in the sidequest, I've not encountered anything as bad as people claim

Ashacekar

I think ChatGPT is helpful as of now, not evil yet

Squirrelguy

Some of the complaining I have seen is ridiculous and occasionally even shows that people don't understand the mechanics of the game. Sure, that's worthy of confusion and explanation.

Much of the "complaining" that I have seen has been from legit players who have played the game for at least a couple years that are usually pointing out anomalies in AI behavior that warrant a question.

Let's give some examples:

"What the heck! Mordo keeps being all passive and not allowing me to intercept him to turn off his power gain!"
- a new player that doesn't understand that this is actually a semi-helpful mechanic programmed for Mordo that can easily be worked around by throwing heavy into his block in the corner.

"OMG Emma Frost keeps light intercepting me when I dash in at a weird time without properly baiting her dash!"
- People who seem to misunderstand that champions can start a run forward and then dash, which they get confused about. They call foul against Kabam when they don't fully understand what went on. Ironically, this was a much easier problem to explain or understand on video now with the visible action icons that appear for each champ."

"When I hit into Nightcrawler's block to change stances, sometimes his timer just goes away. WTH Kabam?"
- People who don't understand that, like real humans (or in fact better than most humans can), it is possible for the AI to drop a block for a millisecond and then reapply (which drops the timer) between your hits.

Sure, maybe a handful of players want the AI to play in a dumbed down way. Most of these people simply want a comprehensible-to-them AI that follows rules that they understand. If the AI seems to break those rules, then they feel like they need to raise a complaint. Doesn't seem like a wild enough train of thought to bring about your generalizations.

To counterpoint your point, I have played the game from the beginning, and have most of the accolades that can be accorded to a Summoner that doesn't pay for them. I don't have a complaint, but have seen genuine things that the AI has done that do not follow the proscribed set of options that the AI should have. I am fine with the AI being able to time things as well as a computer can, but it should not be able to throw a special attack at me while I am in the middle of a combo. There was no unstoppable condition or otherwise extenuating circumstance, and I do not have it on video, but I have had a small handfull of weird interactions like this over the past year or two. I don't think it's as widespread as most "complainers" seem to think, but I also know that things like this are possible.

GroundedWisdom

Honestly the problem for me is there's no happy medium. It's either stagnant and I'm trying to Bait for seems like what's forever, and it just whips out the L3.....or it's on hyperdrive and moving faster than I can and in ways that I can't.

Ortoun

My favorite is when you knock them down with a special and they dash in and are combing you before you've recovered.

AverageDesi

My favorite is when you knock them down with a special and they dash in and are combing you before you've recovered.

That's not something that should be happening unless your touch is being missed or delayed. You should always be able to block

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Ortoun

My favorite is when you knock them down with a special and they dash in and are combing you before you've recovered.
That's not something that should be happening unless your touch is being missed or delayed. You should always be able to block

Sersi is the worst for it, but have seen it from several others

Bendy

My favorite is when you knock them down with a special and they dash in and are combing you before you've recovered.

This is what ive seen a lot at times its so frustrating how quick ai is at recovering but when its u recovering from getting hit by a special the ai is right at u it makes 0 sense why ai recovers so fast especially certain champs have quick recovery some have slow recovery

Blackjack555yy

I don’t understand what you people want, do you want the AI to be a complete sandbag?

The AI, is actually acting remotely like a real player, theyre parrying specials, throwing specials mid combo, and withholding specials and not just throwing them around because you decided to dash back a couple times?

Its funny because the same people who tend to want a real 1v1 (No AI) complain when the AI acts even remotely less than an idiot.

The AI actually makes you think when you play, because you dont know whats going to happen, why does everyone want a brain-dead fight, where its just parry 5 hit, bait?

The AI is in no way acting like a real player, if so most fights would'nt be so unilateral as they already are, most of them you're going to end with the ai on the wall sooner or later, some even do it themselves, AI Mordo for example will spend most matches dodging back and blocking until sp3, no fury, no atacks, and the only time he'll actually hit you is if you parry him and atack him while stunned, and as i said before, he won't atack you (at least it's like that a lot of the times) and this passiveness is also extended to a lot of characters with power gain.

there's also the fact that the AI has a milimetric reaction time, that apart from being absolute bs, sometimes makes no sense, even if you see it completely slowed down, sometimes they block and parry or throw an sp without a stun effect completely expiring, which makes no sense.

Moreover, there's the fact that a lot of AI fights just basically work the same even when the champs have different rotations, you could be fighting a doom with an sp3 ready, and he won't stop you with his sp1, you could also have 99 ruptures from sasquatch and he won't use his sp 2, Red hulk might be about to persish and won't use his sp2, and so on, and so on.

The AI has plenty of problems, and is not only broken in a lot of places, but mostly basic and incomplete.

Marvelfan30

What about when the ai is stunned and still throws a special while they are stunned is the ai supposed to do that somehow

iDestroyerZ

The thing i hate the most about the AI is their CONSTANT attempt to light intercept you, it became so noticable after the combo tracker was added, you can clearly see how often the AI use the light as their first hit instead of the medium

AverageDesi

My favorite is when you knock them down with a special and they dash in and are combing you before you've recovered.
That's not something that should be happening unless your touch is being missed or delayed. You should always be able to block
Sersi is the worst for it, but have seen it from several others

Could it be because of her stun /unblockable after her specials attacks?

Shake_a_Quake

Well, if the AI can throw heavy/specials into me mid-combo, why can't I do the same for it?? At the end of the day, you claim it to be a real player just like any of us.

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Ortoun

My favorite is when you knock them down with a special and they dash in and are combing you before you've recovered.
That's not something that should be happening unless your touch is being missed or delayed. You should always be able to block
Sersi is the worst for it, but have seen it from several others
Could it be because of her stun /unblockable after her specials attacks?

Not sure how that is relevant, she gets knocked down by a special and is dashing in to combo you before you have control back

Nemesis_17

The challenge of fights are supposed to come from nodes, not bad ai. Nobody likes spending 30 seconds in a bg match baiting out an sp2 and losing the match due to time. Especially against mystic defenders when md will likely push them to an sp3. Losing due to your own mistakes is one thing, losing due to the ai feeling like it rigged the match against you is another. When that is the case, people have the right to complain.

Usagicassidy

What bizarre timing for this. Cause while there ARE blatant AI issues, and we HAVE been talking about it...that was mostly like, a full month ago. I haven't seen anyone mention barely anything about it recently.

We've been distracted at how bad Cap's Commissary is and how monotonous the SQ is to keep talking about the AI. Did you hit your head and fall asleep for a month and just woke up?

Greekhit

My favorite is when you knock them down with a special and they dash in and are combing you before you've recovered.

My favourite is when the AI is backdraft intercepting me 😛
It has become so good at this, that it can dash back multiple times to dex out of my attacks, till it finds the opening to retaliate like a pro player 😂

AverageDesi

My favorite is when you knock them down with a special and they dash in and are combing you before you've recovered.
That's not something that should be happening unless your touch is being missed or delayed. You should always be able to block
Sersi is the worst for it, but have seen it from several others
Could it be because of her stun /unblockable after her specials attacks?
Not sure how that is relevant, she gets knocked down by a special and is dashing in to combo you before you have control back

Ah okay. I thought you meant her knocking you down and then punishing you again before you can recover. I haven't seen such a situation occur to me. Is it common against sersei?

peixemacaco

Vulture, Venom, and some others A I. are ridiculous as if they reach SP1 gauge ,they will do and will be easily defeated.

Try and see

Jarvisrei

I don’t understand what you people want, do you want the AI to be a complete sandbag?

The AI, is actually acting remotely like a real player, theyre parrying specials, throwing specials mid combo, and withholding specials and not just throwing them around because you decided to dash back a couple times?

Its funny because the same people who tend to want a real 1v1 (No AI) complain when the AI acts even remotely less than an idiot.

The AI actually makes you think when you play, because you dont know whats going to happen, why does everyone want a brain-dead fight, where its just parry 5 hit, bait?

1v1 pvp take though... how brain dead can you even be lol..

Pve and pvp are not the same thing. In pve every enemy has atleast 5 to 10 multiples of your health and 3 to 5 multiples of your attack. They have a lot of nodes that benefits them while we mostly have none. You don't expect that in pvp lol.

FrostGiantLord

I don't think the OP realises the AI is meant to be annoying at times, or the game would be too easy.