Since when does a cosmic nullify

abam

Venoms special 1 says nullify and his nom nom was always a work around for that nonsense. Now it says in his kit it's a nullify. I don't remember that ever saying nullify.

Fantomaxop

It always was nullify, i remember myself discovering it long time ago while fighting civil warrior.
The only symbiote that can remove buffs without technically nullifying is Venompool right now.

ahmynuts

It was always coded as a nullify, and it just said nom nom for the ability. If it now says nullify, then they just updated the text to match what the ability does for clarity

hi_im_sir

Squirrelguy

Also, if you were unaware, armor breaks count as nullifies. So, most cosmic champs have that ability, including Venom's heavy attack.

pseudosane

Venom's sp1 is a nullify. Vpools, isnt a nullify.

AMS94

Venom Sp1 has always been a nullify
Venompool is the one who works against nullify immune characters as well

Magrailothos

It's not completely unusual for cosmic champions to influence or remove buffs.

Kamala Khan also Nullifies on her Special Attacks.

And Cosmic Ghost Rider has a Fate Seal.

Venompool can also eat buffs; whilst Ronan can 'convert' Armour into armour break, and Fury into weakness.

BabyMiike

Squirrelguy said:

Also, if you were unaware, armor breaks count as nullifies. So, most cosmic champs have that ability, including Venom's heavy attack.

Then why can Medusa work against OS 😫

DNA3000

BabyMiike said:

Squirrelguy said:

Also, if you were unaware, armor breaks count as nullifies. So, most cosmic champs have that ability, including Venom's heavy attack.

Then why can Medusa work against OS 😫

Because OS is immune to the Nullify effect, but not the nullify mechanic. Sit back and grab a drink.

Nullify effects are effects that are literally labelled "Nullify" in the game, whether we see the label or not. Venom's SP1 is a Nullify. OS is immune to Nullify effects, so Venom's SP1 cannot remove OS buffs. However, Venom's heavy deals Armor Break. An Armor Break is an effect with the label "Armor Break" on it, and this effect does two things. First, it places an effect on the target that lowers armor rating. And second, it removes one armor buff. Actually, there's an additional technical wrinkle, if I recall correctly Armor Break effects "ask" the target to pretty please self-nullify one armor buff off of themselves. That is actually how some champs cannot have their armor up effects removed by armor break. They just ignore that request. Either way, Omega Sentinel is not immune to Armor Breaks from Venom, so Venom can remove armor buffs from OS with heavy, but not with SP1.

Because Armor Break effects are not Nullify effects, Omega Sentinel is not immune to them, even though one of the things they do is execute the low-level game mechanic that is coincidentally called "nullify." Same is true with Medusa's armor breaks (or any other armor breaks in the game).