Post your thoughts on Morbius!

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  • jcphillips7jcphillips7 Member Posts: 1,460 ★★★★
    Can’t decide on Crit rating or Crit Damage for his Stat Focus. I feel the crit dmg would be better, as you really wanna explode those bleeds with the sp2 guaranteed crit if they have a Petrify on them
  • PistolcuApaPistolcuApa Member Posts: 172 ★
    edited October 2023
    If they bleed, they get wrecked. Had a Duel against a 30k doom, 12 bleeds, sp2 did 105k dmg. I have full suicides. Busy to try out more, but that fight made the 30 quid worth it.
  • Noob_Master69Noob_Master69 Member Posts: 700 ★★★★
    Only done a few ROL fights so far, but have to say I LOVE HIM!
    His animations feel great, the heal is very good, very nice damage, some nice uitility when it comes to Heal and Power Control

    We'll have to see where he lands in the game meta, but Kabam sure made a very enjoyable champ! Was planning on making Hulk my first R2 7*, but Morbius has quickly become a contender for me
  • Noob_Master69Noob_Master69 Member Posts: 700 ★★★★
    XFREEDOMX said:

    Pikolu said:

    jcphillips7 said:

    Can’t decide on Crit rating or Crit Damage for his Stat Focus. I feel the crit dmg would be better, as you really wanna explode those bleeds with the sp2 guaranteed crit if they have a Petrify on them

    I'd go crit damage because of that sp2, 999/1000 times they'll have a petrify on them if you're playing correctly.
    I personally will go with sp damage crit is kinda useless IMO. His SP2 had guaranteed crit at 10 bleed.
    When looking at the %es that Kabam is showing, the Special damage increases by 8% and the Crit damage by 15.6%. So only going off that the crit damage will be doing more for his SP2 than the Special Damage will

    (Assuming there is no wonky stuff going on with how these percentages and the total damge is calculated ofc)
  • BanannaPandaBanannaPanda Member Posts: 135 ★
    jcphillips7 said:

    Can’t decide on Crit rating or Crit Damage for his Stat Focus. I feel the crit dmg would be better, as you really wanna explode those bleeds with the sp2 guaranteed crit if they have a Petrify on them

    I’m fighting on whether it’s better to increase Crit or Special Damage. Not just because of the big SP2 crit, but because you need to spam a few sp1s to ramp.
  • CrcrcrcCrcrcrc Member Posts: 7,966 ★★★★★
    Noob_Master69 said:

    Worth noting maybe, Morbius' Crit Damage rating is one of the lowest in the game (bottom 10) when comparing to other champs on auntmai

    So giving him a bump there is very welcome

    With some rough math the crit damage skill focus adds roughly 10.7% more damage to sp2s, while the special stat focus only adds 8%, so I would definitely agree that it’s the best choice
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,988 Guardian
    Crcrcrc said:

    Noob_Master69 said:

    Worth noting maybe, Morbius' Crit Damage rating is one of the lowest in the game (bottom 10) when comparing to other champs on auntmai

    So giving him a bump there is very welcome

    With some rough math the crit damage skill focus adds roughly 10.7% more damage to sp2s, while the special stat focus only adds 8%, so I would definitely agree that it’s the best choice
    It adds 15% crit damage to morbius so you can morb harder
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,626 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Noob_Master69 said:

    Worth noting maybe, Morbius' Crit Damage rating is one of the lowest in the game (bottom 10) when comparing to other champs on auntmai

    So giving him a bump there is very welcome

    With some rough math the crit damage skill focus adds roughly 10.7% more damage to sp2s, while the special stat focus only adds 8%, so I would definitely agree that it’s the best choice
    It adds 15% crit damage to morbius so you can morb harder
    You pulled WBN pretty quickly! Gratz.
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,988 Guardian
    GroundedWisdom said:

    Pikolu said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Noob_Master69 said:

    Worth noting maybe, Morbius' Crit Damage rating is one of the lowest in the game (bottom 10) when comparing to other champs on auntmai

    So giving him a bump there is very welcome

    With some rough math the crit damage skill focus adds roughly 10.7% more damage to sp2s, while the special stat focus only adds 8%, so I would definitely agree that it’s the best choice
    It adds 15% crit damage to morbius so you can morb harder
    You pulled WBN pretty quickly! Gratz.
    Thanks! I did get very lucky with that pull.

    I also tested it out, and Special damage focus gives bigger sp2s than cruelty, which seems counterintuitive, but okay I guess.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,626 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Pikolu said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Noob_Master69 said:

    Worth noting maybe, Morbius' Crit Damage rating is one of the lowest in the game (bottom 10) when comparing to other champs on auntmai

    So giving him a bump there is very welcome

    With some rough math the crit damage skill focus adds roughly 10.7% more damage to sp2s, while the special stat focus only adds 8%, so I would definitely agree that it’s the best choice
    It adds 15% crit damage to morbius so you can morb harder
    You pulled WBN pretty quickly! Gratz.
    Thanks! I did get very lucky with that pull.

    I also tested it out, and Special damage focus gives bigger sp2s than cruelty, which seems counterintuitive, but okay I guess.
    Good to know.
  • XFREEDOMXXFREEDOMX Member Posts: 525 ★★★
    Morbius is gonna be a decent questing champ but he is not gonna be a great BG champ at least unduped.
    But hey, not every single champ has to be BG champ. He is super fun to play with.

  • Noob_Master69Noob_Master69 Member Posts: 700 ★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Pikolu said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Noob_Master69 said:

    Worth noting maybe, Morbius' Crit Damage rating is one of the lowest in the game (bottom 10) when comparing to other champs on auntmai

    So giving him a bump there is very welcome

    With some rough math the crit damage skill focus adds roughly 10.7% more damage to sp2s, while the special stat focus only adds 8%, so I would definitely agree that it’s the best choice
    It adds 15% crit damage to morbius so you can morb harder
    You pulled WBN pretty quickly! Gratz.
    Thanks! I did get very lucky with that pull.

    I also tested it out, and Special damage focus gives bigger sp2s than cruelty, which seems counterintuitive, but okay I guess.
    How much bigger are we talking? Enough to justify it over the extra damage the cruelty gives over his basic attacks leading up to the SP2?
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,988 Guardian
    Noob_Master69 said:

    Pikolu said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    Pikolu said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Noob_Master69 said:

    Worth noting maybe, Morbius' Crit Damage rating is one of the lowest in the game (bottom 10) when comparing to other champs on auntmai

    So giving him a bump there is very welcome

    With some rough math the crit damage skill focus adds roughly 10.7% more damage to sp2s, while the special stat focus only adds 8%, so I would definitely agree that it’s the best choice
    It adds 15% crit damage to morbius so you can morb harder
    You pulled WBN pretty quickly! Gratz.
    Thanks! I did get very lucky with that pull.

    I also tested it out, and Special damage focus gives bigger sp2s than cruelty, which seems counterintuitive, but okay I guess.
    How much bigger are we talking? Enough to justify it over the extra damage the cruelty gives over his basic attacks leading up to the SP2?
    I haven't tested yet at high stacks of bleeds, but the difference isn't huge at 14 bleeds. On a r1 morbius it was 98k with cruelty and 100k with special, both against WS. Cruelty will still probably be better because of the basic attack hits. However if you want the largest possible sp2 number, special stat focus.
  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Member Posts: 1,628 ★★★★
    !?!




    He hovers but still wears hiking boots? Why?!?!?!

    It's like d-bags who wear glasses without lenses in them. Smh.
  • CrcrcrcCrcrcrc Member Posts: 7,966 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    Crcrcrc said:

    Noob_Master69 said:

    Worth noting maybe, Morbius' Crit Damage rating is one of the lowest in the game (bottom 10) when comparing to other champs on auntmai

    So giving him a bump there is very welcome

    With some rough math the crit damage skill focus adds roughly 10.7% more damage to sp2s, while the special stat focus only adds 8%, so I would definitely agree that it’s the best choice
    It adds 15% crit damage to morbius so you can morb harder
    It adds 15.6% onto his 135.5%, so roughly a 10.7% increase was where that math came from
  • jcphillips7jcphillips7 Member Posts: 1,460 ★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Very excited to use him next BGs season, absolutely loved his design and he's super fun to play.
    Also, I see people discussing the stats, I did a test with both armor penetration and critical damage rating ones, sp2 at 23 bleeds and these were the results:
    Armor penetration

    Critical damage rating

    No idea why the difference is so massive since I dropped both sp2s at 23 bleeds but yeah, I'm keeping armor penetration on mine.

    Interesting. I assumed armor penetration mattered most when fighting people with active armor up buffs/passives on them. Lots of good feedback in here though. I’ll have to do some testing myself, but I think I might stick with the crit damage, that way his basics are also getting that benefit when ramping.
  • Sw0rdMasterSw0rdMaster Member Posts: 1,801 ★★★★
    klobberintyme said:

    !?!




    He hovers but still wears hiking boots? Why?!?!?!

    It's like d-bags who wear glasses without lenses in them. Smh.

    The same as what his wearing here.


  • XFREEDOMXXFREEDOMX Member Posts: 525 ★★★
    edited October 2023
    Emilia90 said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    Morbius is gonna be a decent questing champ but he is not gonna be a great BG champ at least unduped.
    But hey, not every single champ has to be BG champ. He is super fun to play with.

    He’s literally perfectly built for battlegrounds. I swear, forum takes get more and more ridiculous lmao
    Keep in mind his basic attack has very low damage output. all his damage comes from L2 and if you can't bleed the opponent then he will never finish a fight in BG. Yeah sure he can do some mystics so can Torch and Torch does it better along with some defenders listed below. Not saying Morbius is a bad champ, in fact, he is an excellent champ but not much use in BG. So "He’s literally perfectly built for battlegrounds" is not true.

    Domino= no
    bishop=no
    havok=no
    thing=no
    photon=no
    pig=no
    nova=no
    sersi=no
    nimrod=no
    dragonman=no
    warlok=no
    peni=no
    fam=no
    attuma=no
    korg=no
    kingping=no
    OS=no
    zimo=no
    manthing=no
    iceman=no (any other champ will take damage but can finish the fight but morbius will do little to no damage)
    apoc=no
    mangog=no
    Mole man =no

    Edit: Morbius actually heals from Iceman's cold snap. But damage output is very low.
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,988 Guardian
    edited October 2023
    XFREEDOMX said:

    Pikolu said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    Emilia90 said:

    XFREEDOMX said:

    Morbius is gonna be a decent questing champ but he is not gonna be a great BG champ at least unduped.
    But hey, not every single champ has to be BG champ. He is super fun to play with.

    He’s literally perfectly built for battlegrounds. I swear, forum takes get more and more ridiculous lmao
    Keep in mind his basic attack has very low damage output. all his damage comes from L2 and if you can't bleed the opponent then he will never finish a fight in BG. Yeah sure he can do some mystics so can Torch and Torch does it better along with some defenders listed below. Not saying Morbius is a bad champ, in fact, he is an excellent champ but not much use in BG. So "He’s literally perfectly built for battlegrounds" is not true.

    Domino= no
    bishop=no
    havok=no
    thing=no
    photon=no
    pig=no
    nova=no
    sersi=no
    nimrod=no
    dragonman=no
    warlok=no
    peni=no
    fam=no
    attuma=no
    korg=no
    kingping=no
    OS=no
    zimo=no
    manthing=no
    iceman=no (any other champ will take damage but can finish the fight but morbius will do little to no damage)
    apoc=no
    mangog=no
    Mole man =no
    You know, just because a champion can't take some fights doesn't mean they're bad for BGs. Tons of champions can't take Sersi, however even though Wiccan dunks on sersi, he is very bad against opponents who don't get buffs. Are you now going to tell me that Wiccan is bad for BGs because he can't take on 75% of all champions in MCOC?

    Also, awakened Morbius dunks on mangog :)
    Let's try him out for 1-2 BG seasons! There is 100% chance I could be wrong. But my argument is BG deck is limited to 30 champs so why I'm putting him in my deck when other champs can do much more than what he does?
    Let's not talk about his duped abilities just yet. LMAO
    Also not just some fights those the 80% of top BG defenders
    You know, I was reading your list and it was very bad. Morbius can dunk on spiderham if you know what you're doing, OS gets one-shot by the sp2, attuma can be done better than most because you'll one-shot with the first sp2. It'll just be up to RNG how much thorns damage you take. Mole man 100% can be done, you trigger the frenzy and it is going to be a short fight after that (also, who even brings mole man into bgs anymore?) Peni isn't bleed immune, so you're just as well off with him as anyone else.

    Moving on to an awakened morbius (sig 20 is 50% chance to place ruptures when they're bleed immune). From testing others have done, the 50% is fine for him. This allows him to take on Mangog, korg, apoc, ice man, warlock, dragon dude, nimrod, photon, and thing. The only matchups I wouldn't bring him into unawakened are those who punish bleeds/heavy shruggers, and bleed immunes. Once he is awakened, I just wouldn't bring him against those who punish bleeds/heavy shruggers.


    Something else I just got reminded of is that Morbius is #Decay, so he will be doing super well in next season of BGs.
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