War bans and war globals are hurting alliance war

We asked for bans 2+ years ago because deaths were so low that each death was that much more stressful, and bans helped alleviate that pressure.

Globals are also kind of fun because we get to learn champions that we wouldn't normally use, but I think we've reached the point in AW and even a little in BGs where players are no longer in the driver's seat and we're just being told what do.

1. Bans mean we lose good champions for months, even if they're new. Wasted rankups, wasted crystal pulls.

2. Global attackers generally suck. Wasted rankups.

3. Combine both and alliance war causes a miserable icky feeling where B and C-list champions are all we can use.

I don't know how to keep war fresh, but being a passenger and ranking and using whoever we're told to instead of being an active participant isn't fun anymore.

inb4 git gud

Comments

Buttehrs

Golivarez, that you? In all seriousness though, bans are good because otherwise everyone would just use herc or quake etc. We have over 250 champs in game. There's zero problem in learning to use them all and give them a chance to shine.

startropics

Golivarez, that you?

lol

In all seriousness though, bans are good because otherwise everyone would just use herc or quake etc. We have over 250 champs in game. There's zero problem in learning to use them all and give them a chance to shine.

there aren't 250 champs, there's only 20 something per global.

i'm not saying get rid of bans or even globals, but globals are becoming so restrictive, combined with the 5 bans, that we're no longer in control and have to be told who to bring. being a passive participant isn't fun anymore.

keep the bans and globals but give us more breathing room. this is starting to affect battlegrounds with decay/stevia being added last season.

obsidiman

Golivarez would have mentioned considering taking some sort of legal action. So not him.

Buttehrs

Golivarez, that you?
lol

In all seriousness though, bans are good because otherwise everyone would just use herc or quake etc. We have over 250 champs in game. There's zero problem in learning to use them all and give them a chance to shine.
there aren't 250 champs, there's only 20 something per global.

i'm not saying get rid of bans or even globals, but globals are becoming so restrictive, combined with the 5 bans, that we're no longer in control and have to be told who to bring. being a passive participant isn't fun anymore.

keep the bans and globals but give us more breathing room. this is starting to affect battlegrounds with decay/stevia being added last season.

You don't HAVE to bring those champs though. It might make it a little harder but there's still far more than 20 per global.

PT_99

Hero Bans are becoming a problem in war? Good that's what they are supposed to do.

laserjohn26

Golivarez, that you?
lol

In all seriousness though, bans are good because otherwise everyone would just use herc or quake etc. We have over 250 champs in game. There's zero problem in learning to use them all and give them a chance to shine.
there aren't 250 champs, there's only 20 something per global.

i'm not saying get rid of bans or even globals, but globals are becoming so restrictive, combined with the 5 bans, that we're no longer in control and have to be told who to bring. being a passive participant isn't fun anymore.

keep the bans and globals but give us more breathing room. this is starting to affect battlegrounds with decay/stevia being added last season.
You don't HAVE to bring those champs though. It might make it a little harder but there's still far more than 20 per global.

Please give an example of the 20 champs you can use against r5 ascended longshot on node 10 expert map. Bans are hulk, titania, silk, void, cassie.

Not complaining or taking sides but to say there are over 20 options for that fight just shows you don't know what you are talking about.

There are many other examples where you have only 2 or 3 options.

startropics

got silk from the featured 6* crystal, used her as much as i could for a handful of wars, banned this entire season, then gets blacklisted for the next 6-12(?) weeks.

waste of a champion, waste of a rankup. gets released in july and is more or less unusable for the next 6-7 months.

sell champions, force them on the bench, then release them when they're no longer as useful. is everyone ok with this system?

Pikolu

is everyone ok with this system?

I won't speak for everyone, but I will speak for myself.

Yes

Buttehrs

got silk from the featured 6* crystal, used her as much as i could for a handful of wars, banned this entire season, then gets blacklisted for the next 6-12(?) weeks.

waste of a champion, waste of a rankup. gets released in july and is more or less unusable for the next 6-7 months.

sell champions, force them on the bench, then release them when they're no longer as useful. is everyone ok with this system?

Its not permanent. It's not like you can't ever use them again. Just deal with it until they can be used again. Every champ has thier time on the bench. This is no different.

Danxor

The only awkward part about the Blacklist is that it works really well for 1 season and semi poorly the next. With war tactics rotating every 2 seasons now, in the first war season the blacklisted champs were the most banned champs on the previous tactic and they might not even be the most common attackers people will use in the new season, then the 2nd season of the war block gets the real threats for that tactic blacklisted.

But overall still bans and blacklist are great.

ShiroMikazuki

We asked for bans 2+ years ago because deaths were so low that each death was that much more stressful, and bans helped alleviate that pressure.

Globals are also kind of fun because we get to learn champions that we wouldn't normally use, but I think we've reached the point in AW and even a little in BGs where players are no longer in the driver's seat and we're just being told what do.

1. Bans mean we lose good champions for months, even if they're new. Wasted rankups, wasted crystal pulls.

2. Global attackers generally suck. Wasted rankups.

3. Combine both and alliance war causes a miserable icky feeling where B and C-list champions are all we can use.

I don't know how to keep war fresh, but being a passenger and ranking and using whoever we're told to instead of being an active participant isn't fun anymore.

inb4 git gud

Git gud kid

startropics

noticed this as i was picking attackers.

herc was whitelisted during sugar pill/decay and he was useless then and he's more or less useless now in magic thief.

whitelists give the illusion of choice.

BigBlueOx

I just think it’s hilarious that every time a tactic changes the bans from the last tactic are applied like they matter still. It’s a completely outdated system and needs a fresh look. Right now it’s just silly 50% of the time

FunnyDude

Constructive comment:
New tactics: no blacklist, ban 4
Old tactics: blacklist, ban 2.

The main issue is, tactics are untested and evil.

K9Butt

We are a single BG, silver one tier. How is a Global ban on a champ improving anyone’s experience or out come in AW.

K9Butt

Global bans just need to end. Period!

Magicsol

Global bans just need to end. Period!

Go do your silver fights big fella, let T1 alliances handle this.