Deathless BG piece missed I guess

Same thing will happen next round when they place a deathless piece at GC. More and more accounts aren’t going to be able to get it with the mode being abandoned by a lot of folks. Some are giving up due to rosters getting away from them. Others because they missed this piece won’t bother - because you need them all for the awesome champ at the end. The deathless stuff is going to end up being only for endgame players.. not average size paragon accounts.

ahmynuts

Yes......... that was the intention.....

Chuck_Finley

Intentional for it to be for endgame players? Yeah.. nothing in my comment is disputing that.

Not sure it was their intent to have additional difficulty because the BG pool of players continues to diminish in numbers. Maybe it was… I am indifferent either way.

BringPopcorn

Actually, that season had the most engagement of players as well as 7* Celebration... People dont play much now cause the rewards are pretty awful.

Pikolu

It is bold to say people aren't playing BGs without having the data to back it up. That is just like saying Banquet was a complete failure because whales spent a ton less this year on it than last year, and we saw how that turned out.

captain_rogers

The devs already said this content is especially targetted for endgame players in the time period of 2023 last quarter to 2025 first quarters.

Maybe after this deathless saga, we may get another champ hunt content like this.

GroundedWisdom

I would support that theory, based on the decline I've seen. It's not going in a good direction for BGs.

Chuck_Finley

I am not making an outlandish claim. This was discussed at length last season when people were getting to GC, winning 1 match and reaching new level instantly along with other evidences. Also vibranium taking longer and longer to actually find matches compared to other seasons…. Etc, etc…

And we all have different definitions as to what is classified as banquet failure… my standard won’t be the same as yours and Kabam’s won’t match our definitions.

If we aren’t allowed to draw conclusions based on what we get from other sources and experiences and have to have “real” data.. then let’s just shut down all conversations because last I checked such info isn’t produced by Kabam daily,

BringPopcorn

From my perspective there really isn't a decline at all. Its all effect from seeding and the solo rewards.
Solo milestones are not worth that much and seeding makes you play less. The 2 seasons with the most summoner engagement had been 7* celebration and this deathless piece one.
If they were to update the solo milestones rewards I am pretty sure people would play more matches and more people would actually play the mode.

Pikolu

Uru 3 had a lot of people in it by the end of the season. Lots of people just waited until last minute to get through BGs, also idk about anyone else, but the last meta was very boring which is why I didn't bother much with BGs last season besides getting to GC

Gamer

Yea I sure 15k for one piece won’t be it

BringPopcorn

So how much do you think it wiill be?

Gamer

My opinion is maximum 5k so if you’re missing all pieces u locking at 20k units but it could very well be 10k pair pieces

BringPopcorn

So it could very well be 10k which is your actual maximum, you said 5k but its really 10k.... Now double it as Mike said 🤣

Suros_moon

I have no investment in this conversation as to whether BGs is in decline but I want to point out an important correction in the point you made.

Claim: Kabam made less money from banquet
Response: 34% more crystals were opened

The response doesn’t speak to the question because of a massive possible conflating factor: How many people intentionally sat out cyber weekend unit deals for banquet this year? It is entirely within the realm of possibility that the whole of the difference and then some was due to an unusually large amount of unit savings. If this is the case then the increased number of crystals OPENED does not actually mean REVENUE was generated by banquet only that excess units were moved back away from the player base.

Now, we dont know either way because Kabam didnt actually address it but we should be careful not to assert something which was not actually said. It would be equally erroneous to point out how top spenders/alliances needed tens of thousands less to attain top slots this year as compared to last and extrapolate that revenue was lost. You need the actual amount spent to make that determination

GroundedWisdom

It's the restrictiveness of the Nodes, in combination with the cycle of having to climb over and over, and the growing strength of the competition. I can't speak for everyone for sure, but I've noticed a lack of caring. The Rewards are part of it, sure. However, when it becomes a high enough source of frustration, the Rewards don't matter anymore. The last 2 Metas were just frustrating. Last one wasn't as bad, but this one is just plain tight. The people I've seen that have no issue with it are the same ones who make it to the GC every Season within the first couple weeks.

BringPopcorn

I'm not gonna argue the nodes or other stuff.
Just giving you my personal experience.
Before I would play out of enjoyment and of course rewards, and I would play a lot more cause there was no seeding, had to play a lot more to get to GC.
Now i get to GC, end up in 150k+/- in solo milestones and have no intetest to keep on playing for the other milestones at all.
I am playing less matches; but its not due to the game mode, I got no incentive to do so. Now they put a piece of a deathless champ I will probably play it again...

ahmynuts

Speaking to both of your points. I'm literally sill in diamond 4 because i haven't been bothered to even play for the 1200 objective tokens. The meta isn't really bothering me that much since my account can deal with it. It's just the rewards vs time investment and the fact that I have to climb again.

That being said does anyone know if I don't play this season will i still be reset to plat 1 or do i have to get to the gc again to be reset to plat 1

Suros_moon

Hard for me to personally verify since I usually sit high up in GC, but I vaguely remember someone mentioning your bracket resetting to two lower than the highest VT rank you achieved. It would track for Vibranium—> Plat but I never actually bothered to verify this so you’ll have to source it on your own

GalactikDonut

i’m like 99% sure you need to hit gc to be reset to plat next season.

GroundedWisdom

This. I was saving Units last Season, and wasn't really feeling the Nodes, so I stopped at D4. This Season I'm in G3, and still have a hard time being bothered. I need a couple Basics and Alphas to take Hulk to R5, and I'm still not driven.

ahmynuts

This is devastating news. I don't wanna play that much lmaoo