so they fix the AI from re-parry to more parry?

Ngoalong711Ngoalong711 Member Posts: 314 ★★
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i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today
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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,073 ★★★★★
    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,073 ★★★★★
    Zuko_ILC said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    The reparry issue we had previously from AI is back. Kabam even stated this.
    HungaryHippo said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    The amount of gaslighting in this single response is outstanding. Highly impressed.
    Vegeta9001 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    They admitted there is an issue with the reparry, and with AI throwing specials. Your response is pointless and unneeded. Thought you were getting better than this.
    OP said parried only. They didn't say they got re-parried. They asked about the "re-parry" issue and then asked why if that's why they got parried. Not re-parried, but parried. I asked to clarify.

    People say all kinds of crazy things on these forums. I didn't say it wasn't happening. I didn't say it should be happening. I didn't say anything but ask a question whether they think they shouldn't be getting parried in BGs.

    It's not like OP provided screenshots, videos or any other context to their post. It's not like they wrote a cohesive post that explained what they were experiencing. They mentioned re-parry once and continued to talk about parry. They are 2 different things

    I know all 3 of you, especially Hippo boy, hate me. I get it. I'll be your villain but this isn't anything you're making it out to be.
  • Manup456Manup456 Member Posts: 891 ★★★★
    edited January 17
    The re-parry fix was never even talked about and that entire time this so called fix was in place the AI was still able to do it and the Sp2 holding has been going on for a long time now. They also changed the AI because it didn’t always light intercept like it does, they also evade like crazy even before getting off the ground, this was definitely not always a thing.

    This all started last year when they introduced 7* and throughout the year I can tell when this stuff was being added because if you have been playing the game for years and play the game actively you can tell when the defender is doing things they never did before.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,387 ★★★★★
    Manup456 said:

    The re-parry fix was never even talked about and that entire time this so called fix was in place the AI was still able to do it and the Sp2 holding has been going on for a long time now. They also changed the AI because it didn’t always light intercept like it does, they also evade like crazy even before getting off the ground, this was definitely not always a thing.

    This all started last year when they introduced 7* and throughout the year I can tell when this stuff was being added because if you have been playing the game for years and play the game actively you can tell when the defender is doing things they never did before.

    This all dates back to the update where EoP Blade’s solo fight was present. This fight had an objective that BWDO could clear but if you his his block the reparry on you medium could melt you. It’s over 2+ years ago since then and reparry and overpowered AI complaints go back. It’s nice to see it’s at least acknowledged and they want to fix it but it’s been neglected that long.
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  • JollyHawkJollyHawk Member Posts: 611 ★★★
    AverageDesi said:

    HungaryHippo said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Zuko_ILC said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    The reparry issue we had previously from AI is back. Kabam even stated this.
    HungaryHippo said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    The amount of gaslighting in this single response is outstanding. Highly impressed.
    Vegeta9001 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    They admitted there is an issue with the reparry, and with AI throwing specials. Your response is pointless and unneeded. Thought you were getting better than this.
    OP said parried only. They didn't say they got re-parried. They asked about the "re-parry" issue and then asked why if that's why they got parried. Not re-parried, but parried. I asked to clarify.

    People say all kinds of crazy things on these forums. I didn't say it wasn't happening. I didn't say it should be happening. I didn't say anything but ask a question whether they think they shouldn't be getting parried in BGs.

    It's not like OP provided screenshots, videos or any other context to their post. It's not like they wrote a cohesive post that explained what they were experiencing. They mentioned re-parry once and continued to talk about parry. They are 2 different things

    I know all 3 of you, especially Hippo boy, hate me. I get it. I'll be your villain but this isn't anything you're making it out to be.
    I’m not your boy. Your routine disrespect and blind defense of Kabam is why your posts are always attacked.
    Lol he didn't call you his boy
    AverageDesi said:

    HungaryHippo said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Zuko_ILC said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    The reparry issue we had previously from AI is back. Kabam even stated this.
    HungaryHippo said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    The amount of gaslighting in this single response is outstanding. Highly impressed.
    Vegeta9001 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    They admitted there is an issue with the reparry, and with AI throwing specials. Your response is pointless and unneeded. Thought you were getting better than this.
    OP said parried only. They didn't say they got re-parried. They asked about the "re-parry" issue and then asked why if that's why they got parried. Not re-parried, but parried. I asked to clarify.

    People say all kinds of crazy things on these forums. I didn't say it wasn't happening. I didn't say it should be happening. I didn't say anything but ask a question whether they think they shouldn't be getting parried in BGs.

    It's not like OP provided screenshots, videos or any other context to their post. It's not like they wrote a cohesive post that explained what they were experiencing. They mentioned re-parry once and continued to talk about parry. They are 2 different things

    I know all 3 of you, especially Hippo boy, hate me. I get it. I'll be your villain but this isn't anything you're making it out to be.
    I’m not your boy. Your routine disrespect and blind defense of Kabam is why your posts are always attacked.
    Lol he didn't call you his boy
    Freudian slip.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    JollyHawk said:

    AverageDesi said:

    HungaryHippo said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Zuko_ILC said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    The reparry issue we had previously from AI is back. Kabam even stated this.
    HungaryHippo said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    The amount of gaslighting in this single response is outstanding. Highly impressed.
    Vegeta9001 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    They admitted there is an issue with the reparry, and with AI throwing specials. Your response is pointless and unneeded. Thought you were getting better than this.
    OP said parried only. They didn't say they got re-parried. They asked about the "re-parry" issue and then asked why if that's why they got parried. Not re-parried, but parried. I asked to clarify.

    People say all kinds of crazy things on these forums. I didn't say it wasn't happening. I didn't say it should be happening. I didn't say anything but ask a question whether they think they shouldn't be getting parried in BGs.

    It's not like OP provided screenshots, videos or any other context to their post. It's not like they wrote a cohesive post that explained what they were experiencing. They mentioned re-parry once and continued to talk about parry. They are 2 different things

    I know all 3 of you, especially Hippo boy, hate me. I get it. I'll be your villain but this isn't anything you're making it out to be.
    I’m not your boy. Your routine disrespect and blind defense of Kabam is why your posts are always attacked.
    Lol he didn't call you his boy
    AverageDesi said:

    HungaryHippo said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Zuko_ILC said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    The reparry issue we had previously from AI is back. Kabam even stated this.
    HungaryHippo said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    The amount of gaslighting in this single response is outstanding. Highly impressed.
    Vegeta9001 said:

    Demonzfyre said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today

    Are you saying you shouldn't be getting parried in BGs?
    They admitted there is an issue with the reparry, and with AI throwing specials. Your response is pointless and unneeded. Thought you were getting better than this.
    OP said parried only. They didn't say they got re-parried. They asked about the "re-parry" issue and then asked why if that's why they got parried. Not re-parried, but parried. I asked to clarify.

    People say all kinds of crazy things on these forums. I didn't say it wasn't happening. I didn't say it should be happening. I didn't say anything but ask a question whether they think they shouldn't be getting parried in BGs.

    It's not like OP provided screenshots, videos or any other context to their post. It's not like they wrote a cohesive post that explained what they were experiencing. They mentioned re-parry once and continued to talk about parry. They are 2 different things

    I know all 3 of you, especially Hippo boy, hate me. I get it. I'll be your villain but this isn't anything you're making it out to be.
    I’m not your boy. Your routine disrespect and blind defense of Kabam is why your posts are always attacked.
    Lol he didn't call you his boy
    Freudian slip.
    Hungary secretly wants to be Demon's boy
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,797 Guardian
    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today



    According to the announcement, they fixed it, but then defenders really didn't want to throw their specials so they reverted it and are looking to see how they can fix it without other huge problems.
  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Member Posts: 1,597 ★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today



    According to the announcement, they fixed it, but then defenders really didn't want to throw their specials so they reverted it and are looking to see how they can fix it without other huge problems.
    There's a fun poll: u rather have re-parry or stingy specials? The answer of course is Game Should Work, but here we are...
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,373 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    klobberintyme said:

    Pikolu said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today



    According to the announcement, they fixed it, but then defenders really didn't want to throw their specials so they reverted it and are looking to see how they can fix it without other huge problems.
    The answer of course is Game Should Work

    Unrelated to the topic, I just admire your commitment to putting Sersi into all of your image responses.

    On topic: the announcement seems to say the reparry issue is specific to attacker’s with double hits on their medium, with the first hit getting blocked normally and the second getting reparried. If you getting parried wasn’t off a two-hit medium, odds are this wasn’t why you got parried.
  • Ngoalong711Ngoalong711 Member Posts: 314 ★★
    Wicket329 said:

    Pikolu said:

    klobberintyme said:

    Pikolu said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today



    According to the announcement, they fixed it, but then defenders really didn't want to throw their specials so they reverted it and are looking to see how they can fix it without other huge problems.
    The answer of course is Game Should Work

    Unrelated to the topic, I just admire your commitment to putting Sersi into all of your image responses.

    On topic: the announcement seems to say the reparry issue is specific to attacker’s with double hits on their medium, with the first hit getting blocked normally and the second getting reparried. If you getting parried wasn’t off a two-hit medium, odds are this wasn’t why you got parried.
    what solution do you think that they will do to fix the 2 hits medium getting reparried?
    have you ever think of the way they will fix it?
    what if they change the timing of parry of defenders so that they no longer can reparry 2 hits medium but that change bring in another issue is that they now can parry 1 hit medium . i'm not saying that they can do that all the time but who know if i'm correct or not.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,564 ★★★★★
    That AI change to fix the reparry issue cost me 30 revives in Necropolis GM as it had catastrophic side effects to him not throwing specials
  • klobberintymeklobberintyme Member Posts: 1,597 ★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    klobberintyme said:

    Pikolu said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today



    According to the announcement, they fixed it, but then defenders really didn't want to throw their specials so they reverted it and are looking to see how they can fix it without other huge problems.
    The answer of course is Game Should Work

    Despite the fun i usually have on the boards, i do appreciate that there's a few employees who do take it to heart when stuff they work on doesn't quite work out through no fault of their own, and others who earnestly try to fix stuff despite the avalanche of complaints and negativity. I'll always support those who strive for Game Should Work. It works enough for me to still enjoy it, anyways.
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,797 Guardian
    klobberintyme said:

    Pikolu said:

    klobberintyme said:

    Pikolu said:

    Ngoalong711 said:

    i've heard about kabam admit they change the AI because of the reparry thing. is that the reason why i got parried 3 times in a BGs fight?
    i mean that's my record today. i think i got parried about 10 times today



    According to the announcement, they fixed it, but then defenders really didn't want to throw their specials so they reverted it and are looking to see how they can fix it without other huge problems.
    The answer of course is Game Should Work

    Despite the fun i usually have on the boards, i do appreciate that there's a few employees who do take it to heart when stuff they work on doesn't quite work out through no fault of their own, and others who earnestly try to fix stuff despite the avalanche of complaints and negativity. I'll always support those who strive for Game Should Work. It works enough for me to still enjoy it, anyways.
    It is really hard nowadays to find a game that doesn't have bugs or unintended features in it. The more complicated a game gets, the more likely it is to have bugs. As showcased with the reparry bug the AI has, when you try to fix a bug, another unintended bug can occur. I applaud the engineers for reverting the bug instead of keeping it in and trying to fix the special issue over the next few months.

    While I would love mcoc to just work, I have high doubts of that happening anytime in the next year at least.
  • G-Hun-GearG-Hun-Gear Member Posts: 1,447 ★★★★
    To be completely honest: I know that even Kabam acknowledged the situation…

    But I don‘t think getting parried or even re-parried by the AI is an issue at all… As in: If you can parry and re-parry, then the opponent should be able to do the same…

    Imagine playing a „real“ fighting game like Street fighter, and the complaining that the AI does a shimmy or cancel a light attack into a special…

    Now the throwing specials thing is another story… Since you cannot block or evade SP3, there needs to be a mechanism to keep the opponent from reaching that SP3… But if baiting specials doesn’t work, then you’re done.

    So in essence: Fix baiting specials, I don’t care about parry or re-parry by AI…
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