EOP Carina with nothing but Juggernaut on the Team?
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I was originally going to do the right side path with only r2 Chavez for the Thunderbolt and Dimensional Being, but it dawned upon me that the Brotherhood of Mutants has a very bad pool of champions.
So I figured I could just double dip using only Juggernaut for the Brotherhood and Thunderbolt objectives, and then do dimensional being with Chavez/Galan/FAM.
Problem however, though is my Juggernaut is only a rank 4 6* and there's a Scorpion and Peni on the path (not too concerned about the Peni, more so the Scorpion).
Did anyone else do this? I know most combined the A force/Alpha flight with Brotherhood (SW and Rogue), but I'd rather just use Juggernaut as hes a better champ. I have a 7* Guardian and Sasquatch I can use for the Alpha Flight.
Got around 70 revives left after exploring Necro.
So I figured I could just double dip using only Juggernaut for the Brotherhood and Thunderbolt objectives, and then do dimensional being with Chavez/Galan/FAM.
Problem however, though is my Juggernaut is only a rank 4 6* and there's a Scorpion and Peni on the path (not too concerned about the Peni, more so the Scorpion).
Did anyone else do this? I know most combined the A force/Alpha flight with Brotherhood (SW and Rogue), but I'd rather just use Juggernaut as hes a better champ. I have a 7* Guardian and Sasquatch I can use for the Alpha Flight.
Got around 70 revives left after exploring Necro.
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But Juggs would be easier than either of those two teams imo (I did the scarlet and Chavez ones, but Juggs seems like he'd be easier from what I've seen).
I think that Juggs can get past Scorpion; but it's actually Ikaris that will be a roadblock for Jugs: he has Special Burst Lockdown; so every time he throws a Special attack (and being Ikaris, he does that a lot...), you'll lose your Gem, your Unstoppable, and your ability to Nullify.
I'm sure you can get past in the end, but to me, that sounds like a pretty miserable fight for Juggs, going solo.
It cost me a ton more revives to do two runs with him (especially since I only had him at r3), which annoyed me to no end.
How bad was peni and scorpion with just juggs? Based on what @Magrailothos said was ikaris a long fight with the gem being disabled?
I was thinking of trying the left side like @AverageDesi said but the Terrax armor break debuffs would shut off my gem. I haven't looked at the nodes on the other defenders on left side in as much detail
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Kraven, pretty easy once you get the rhythm of the fight.
Scorp, that guy sucks and is super annoying. Juggs does some really good damage though and nukes him down pretty well.
Ikaris is a long fight, but once you get into the rhythm of it it’s smooth. There were a few sp2’s I was able to get off that had some momentum and the extra damage was nice.
Peni also sucks. She’s basically just a nuke it.
Thanos, I loved the Thanos fight. I watched a video of somebody before, but essentially use Juggs unstoppable in your favor to just keep whaling on Thanos. You’re immune to reverse controls, so that phase is easy. I think I used only 2 or 3 revives on that fight.
I seem to recall Ikaris being quite doable with Juggs. I found a good rhythm, I think. I didn't one-shot him by any means - not even close - but I had longer stretches of success with Juggs than with anyone prior to him. That was probably a combination of him being a mystic champion and not having to deal with some of Ikaris' BS, and also me getting more acquaintedd with the fight itself. But yeah, I won't argue that it's a long fight.
Regardless, a Juggs run will be expensive. Probably a lot less expensive nowadays if you've got a 7* or high-rank 6* (and don't use him for the first time, like I did), but I would still only go in with a decent stash of revives. Aside from maybe the first run where I got my bearings, those two Juggs runs were the two most expensive runs by far for me. But I also ran it with one r3 (three r3s in total) compared to teams of mostly r4s for the other runs, so it's a little hard to say exactly how hard it was compared to the other runs.
As @Ercarret, I did this a year ago so I dont remember the details. But I remember the Juggs run wasn't too bad, except the last phase on Thanos. I would 100% do it again with Juggs instead of doing it twice.
So it looks like no one really took Juggs on the left path then
Honestly Hercs immortality seems overrated for these EOP fights, because once i threw my sp2 to stun them, i was barely getting enough power on the combos following it, to get back to an sp2 so that i can repeat the stun loop, even using a relic. Am i doing something wrong?
My herc is only a rank 4 and non ascended, should i just bring my top champ? R3 unawakened Titania
Overall, the first 4 fights can be done with other champs, Herc just does the best because of his immortality. You’re not going to get in a stun loop except on maybe the Bishop fight.
I did not get any solos outside of dormammu with a R3 or R4 Herc.
Like MCOC Noob said in his video, that final phase of Thanos is a cash grab with how the AI is. Maybe 1 out of 20 times it would cooperate with my intercepts. One of two things would happen: 1) He’ll hold block and you’ll try to intercept when he drops his guard only to end up hitting his block all the while hes building to an sp3 which one shots you or 2) you end up eating a combo because the moment he drops his guard after turtling with his block he ends up intercepting you.
Given how the AI is at the moment with its flawless intercepting, fighting that boss 6 times for an r5 gem simply isn’t worth it imo, you can just get the t6cc of valiant dalies.
Fyi for anyone thats gonna comment “skill issue”, I ended up using about 200 revives total exploring Necro . The Thanos fight itself isnt hard, the last phase is just brutal given how the AI is behaving currently