So no raid compensation?

Guess there will be no raid compensation? Or is there any news about it? How did they handle these things in the past?

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Compensation for what mate? Also, the amount of Glory we got during Raids should be more than enough of a compensation for the rough start!

Eb0ny-O-M4w

There should be compensation coming. Ww just have no news yet

FunnyDude

I'm surprised by how slow Kabam is on this RAID thing, it is definitely a big new feature of MCOC, somehow Kabam decided to let players to test their beta feature w/o knowing it's a beta (kabam may deny this, but it's effectively a beta). The result is, quite of few players stepped away from MCOC because they can't afford this game mode and thought this will be the new normal.

So far, the only feedback from Kabam is Miike said they are collecting feedbacks and will give a mini-roadmap about future changes on RAID. IMO, they should either fix this game mode in a week and give an update to the community, or just suspend it for a month so they can take their time to work on it. However, neither of them is likely, normal Kabam style is, giving an update 2 days before the next round, having more angry customers.

FunnyDude

Compensation for what mate? Also, the amount of Glory we got during Raids should be more than enough of a compensation for the rough start!

Far away from enough, you can't save those glory, you can only buy limited items and potions a week.
Many people spent hundreds or even thousands of units in the last round RAID.

Anyway, Kabam can see the negative impact of this horribly tuned beta feature in their background data.

Colinwhitworth69

No one here should have had any surprise that the new game mode would be imperfect and have issues. Pretty much always the case.

FunnyDude

No one here should have had any surprise that the new game mode would be imperfect and have issues. Pretty much always the case.

"Imperfect" is a too weak word to describe the first round RAID, most players chose words like "broken", "disaster", "horrible", "untested"...

Roggam

If my ragtag bunch of map 4 guys can get through 1 boss on each path - then it’s living up to the expectations that Jax set… git gudder? Would not hate better guaranteed rewards on treasure chest though.

Vegeta9001

If my ragtag bunch of map 4 guys can get through 1 boss on each path - then it’s living up to the expectations that Jax set… git gudder? Would not hate better guaranteed rewards on treasure chest though.

Just delete the 1/4 of a t6cc I got that 3 times and it's depressing.

MarvelNoob

The glory was the compensation lol I got 2 rank 2s from it

Yodabolt21

No one here should have had any surprise that the new game mode would be imperfect and have issues. Pretty much always the case.
"Imperfect" is a too weak word to describe the first round RAID, most players chose words like "broken", "disaster", "horrible", "untested"...

I really understand comments like this. If you watched the stream with Kabam employees doing raids weeks before they were live, you knew exactly what was coming. It is tough, yes. It is a challenge that requires everyone working together, yes. It is an expensive game mode, yes. That was my expectation going in and it met my expectations.

I personally enjoyed the challenge and although it was expensive, I had fun. I planned the whole thing for our BG and we cleared the map. I don’t expect us to clear it everytime due to the mass amounts of glory we spent on potions and revives that we won’t be going forward. Also, after seeing the rewards overall, I don’t think we will be spending units on stuff to clear it. We will use our free revives, get at least 2 bosses down per path and take our glory and RNG rewards and be happy.

FunnyDude

No one here should have had any surprise that the new game mode would be imperfect and have issues. Pretty much always the case.
"Imperfect" is a too weak word to describe the first round RAID, most players chose words like "broken", "disaster", "horrible", "untested"...
I really understand comments like this. If you watched the stream with Kabam employees doing raids weeks before they were live, you knew exactly what was coming. It is tough, yes. It is a challenge that requires everyone working together, yes. It is an expensive game mode, yes. That was my expectation going in and it met my expectations.

I personally enjoyed the challenge and although it was expensive, I had fun. I planned the whole thing for our BG and we cleared the map. I don’t expect us to clear it everytime due to the mass amounts of glory we spent on potions and revives that we won’t be going forward. Also, after seeing the rewards overall, I don’t think we will be spending units on stuff to clear it. We will use our free revives, get at least 2 bosses down per path and take our glory and RNG rewards and be happy.

This leads to the same question I asked many times:
Are these contents designed for 500 people or 5000 or even more? I asked this again and again because my alliance was 20th in RAID, and we were also top20 in last war season, we all think RAID is too difficult and too expensive.

I'm totally OK if Kabam says this is designed for 500 players because my alliance sit on the boundary of 500 players, so it is reasonable that we think it's too difficult, just curious if this is really what they want.

SirGamesBond

20k Titan shards for everyone please.
Thank you, appreciate it.

willrun4adonut

No one here should have had any surprise that the new game mode would be imperfect and have issues. Pretty much always the case.
"Imperfect" is a too weak word to describe the first round RAID, most players chose words like "broken", "disaster", "horrible", "untested"...
I really understand comments like this. If you watched the stream with Kabam employees doing raids weeks before they were live, you knew exactly what was coming. It is tough, yes. It is a challenge that requires everyone working together, yes. It is an expensive game mode, yes. That was my expectation going in and it met my expectations.

I personally enjoyed the challenge and although it was expensive, I had fun. I planned the whole thing for our BG and we cleared the map. I don’t expect us to clear it everytime due to the mass amounts of glory we spent on potions and revives that we won’t be going forward. Also, after seeing the rewards overall, I don’t think we will be spending units on stuff to clear it. We will use our free revives, get at least 2 bosses down per path and take our glory and RNG rewards and be happy.

@Yodabolt21 if that's your plan, you may want to have everyone just take the same path. Then you can get three bosses down and three chests much easier for everyone. You'd just have no hope for the Ultron boss since he'd have linked nodes.

DrZola

No one here should have had any surprise that the new game mode would be imperfect and have issues. Pretty much always the case.
"Imperfect" is a too weak word to describe the first round RAID, most players chose words like "broken", "disaster", "horrible", "untested"...
I really understand comments like this. If you watched the stream with Kabam employees doing raids weeks before they were live, you knew exactly what was coming. It is tough, yes. It is a challenge that requires everyone working together, yes. It is an expensive game mode, yes. That was my expectation going in and it met my expectations.

I personally enjoyed the challenge and although it was expensive, I had fun. I planned the whole thing for our BG and we cleared the map. I don’t expect us to clear it everytime due to the mass amounts of glory we spent on potions and revives that we won’t be going forward. Also, after seeing the rewards overall, I don’t think we will be spending units on stuff to clear it. We will use our free revives, get at least 2 bosses down per path and take our glory and RNG rewards and be happy.
@Yodabolt21 if that's your plan, you may want to have everyone just take the same path. Then you can get three bosses down and three chests much easier for everyone. You'd just have no hope for the Ultron boss since he'd have linked nodes.

This is what we did and will continue to do. Post-retirement ally, lots of worthless minis and some accounts abandoned by their owners (who were old MCoC friends) so we don’t have a solid dozen with the horses to explore.

Better to do a run all on the same lane, set out some basic rules for timing of attacks and collect three of the chests (also known as “QuarterCats”). Don’t sweat the rest and don’t use units or anything other than expiring pots and Raid freebies.

Dr. Zola

DrZola

On the subject of Raid compensation, though, yes. Not sure what it should be, but I’d think no more than some pots and maybe a reasonable pittance for time wasted when the charges get wiped, super lagginess at run-in and poor mission/buff design.

Otherwise, I’d say responding positively to the many constructive suggestions for improving Raids would be solid comp as well.

Dr. Zola

Typhoon

On the subject of Raid compensation, though, yes. Not sure what it should be, but I’d think no more than some pots and maybe a reasonable pittance for time wasted when the charges get wiped, super lagginess at run-in and poor mission/buff design.

Otherwise, I’d say responding positively to the many constructive suggestions for improving Raids would be solid comp as well.

Dr. Zola

"time wasted when the charges get wiped"

^^^^

PT_99

People got silenced on their own. Stop expecting compensation getting handed

Wozzle007

Would be good to get the roadmap soon. Will help in planning rank ups etc as needed.

ItsClobberinTime

I'm surprised by how slow Kabam is on this RAID thing, it is definitely a big new feature of MCOC, somehow Kabam decided to let players to test their beta feature w/o knowing it's a beta (kabam may deny this, but it's effectively a beta). The result is, quite of few players stepped away from MCOC because they can't afford this game mode and thought this will be the new normal.

So far, the only feedback from Kabam is Miike said they are collecting feedbacks and will give a mini-roadmap about future changes on RAID. IMO, they should either fix this game mode in a week and give an update to the community, or just suspend it for a month so they can take their time to work on it. However, neither of them is likely, normal Kabam style is, giving an update 2 days before the next round, having more angry customers.

"Quite a few players stepped away from MCOC" lol stop being so dramatic you know that's not true.

BringPopcorn

Oh no.. the C word

Karatemike415

Compensation for what?

It's supposed to be hard content.
It may have launched too hard, and there's a ton of validity in wanting it to be toned down a bit going forward - but the content was perfectly doable and was finished by dozens of alliances at all skill levels.

Besides the tens of thousands of extra Glory, the first Raid week was also free to enter & didn't require Raid Tickets.

ItsClobberinTime

Compensation for what?

It's supposed to be hard content.
It may have launched too hard, and there's a ton of validity in wanting it to be toned down a bit going forward - but the content was perfectly doable and was finished by dozens of alliances at all skill levels.

Besides the tens of thousands of extra Glory, the first Raid week was also free to enter & didn't require Raid Tickets.

I think they want compensation for the charges bug but yes I agree, not only was it free but we got like 30k glory for free so I don't want any compensation. They already gave me more stuff than I deserved with the glory alone lol.

SecondSkriller

Compensation for what?

It's supposed to be hard content.
It may have launched too hard, and there's a ton of validity in wanting it to be toned down a bit going forward - but the content was perfectly doable and was finished by dozens of alliances at all skill levels.

Besides the tens of thousands of extra Glory, the first Raid week was also free to enter & didn't require Raid Tickets.

The bugs Mike, not the difficulty. I’m glad you didn’t lose all 15 charges multiple times, but I did. And for that reason my alliance revives are depleted. All for 25% of three t6cc cats and the glory that gave us about 6 t6cc and t3alphas? That glory means less than one t6cc.

Pikolu

Compensation for what?

It's supposed to be hard content.
It may have launched too hard, and there's a ton of validity in wanting it to be toned down a bit going forward - but the content was perfectly doable and was finished by dozens of alliances at all skill levels.

Besides the tens of thousands of extra Glory, the first Raid week was also free to enter & didn't require Raid Tickets.
I think they want compensation for the charges bug but yes I agree, not only was it free but we got like 30k glory for free so I don't want any compensation. They already gave me more stuff than I deserved with the glory alone lol.

The glory alone could easily get you into 4 more raids which was the best part about it imo

Venoween

200k Titan shards for everyone please.
Thank you, appreciate it.

I agree.

ItsClobberinTime

Compensation for what?

It's supposed to be hard content.
It may have launched too hard, and there's a ton of validity in wanting it to be toned down a bit going forward - but the content was perfectly doable and was finished by dozens of alliances at all skill levels.

Besides the tens of thousands of extra Glory, the first Raid week was also free to enter & didn't require Raid Tickets.
I think they want compensation for the charges bug but yes I agree, not only was it free but we got like 30k glory for free so I don't want any compensation. They already gave me more stuff than I deserved with the glory alone lol.
The glory alone could easily get you into 4 more raids which was the best part about it imo

Yeah that's why I'm not complaining. I got 2k Titan shards and like 30k glory for free. I also have another 180 tickets ready for next month and with the rest of the glory I got two new r4s and one r2 7* I can't really complain.

DrZola

Claiming an unintended bug is essentially *compensation* is silly. I also don’t think it’s an approach we should encourage the team to take.

If anything is provided, it should be aimed at remedying punitive effects of charge wiping. That “feature” of Raids wasn’t disclosed or discussed, nor (to my knowledge) was it addressed by the team during the week, even though it was brought up extensively in forums.

Dr. Zola

ItsClobberinTime

Claiming an unintended bug is essentially *compensation* is silly. I also don’t think it’s an approach we should encourage the team to take.

If anything is provided, it should be aimed at remedying punitive effects of charge wiping. That “feature” of Raids wasn’t disclosed or discussed, nor (to my knowledge) was it addressed by the team during the week, even though it was brought up extensively in forums.

Dr. Zola

But they allowed us to play Raids for free. Why would they give us compensation after they allowed us to play something and claim rewards for free? No resources spent, we lost nothing. It's just odd.
We're not really in a position to be asking for compensation, nobody spent a single piece of glory in tickets.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Compensation for what?

For the charges bug. The one where charges were disappearing, and the one where there was no damage boost in the actual fight itself no matter how many charges you builded up.

DiscoNnectKing

For everyone! I don't want it to be easier! I actually didn't think it was too hard at all... scored the most points in my ally. Just want something back for the time and bugs the units i used because or charges went gone or the multiple 10% damage's i did that where healed back after the game crashed. No its not my wi-fi i have the best wi-fi available in my country. 1gb download speed. It was a really fun and challenging gamemode but the bugs and issues made it almost unplayable.. also expect compensation for them pulling out the revives before the raid ended and ended up with us buying revives to finish our boss or alliance mates backing out the game because they didn't think they would come back. So no ultron