Anyone know why abs man isn’t pausing his forms when bullseye hits him with instant bleeds?

SuperSam568

The game shows abs man as immune when they hit, but there’s no pause on his form?

Maratox

Pause only occurs when abs man is immune to a debuff

Wicket329

Maratox said:

Pause only occurs when abs man is immune to a debuff

Just to build on this: Bullseye’s instant bleeds aren’t debuffs, they’re burst damage. You could take Bullseye against Taskmaster and continue to apply his instant bleeds throughout the fight, even after Taskmaster becomes debuff immune.

ReignkingTW

Overly complicated again.

Folkvangr

Wicket329 said:

Maratox said:

Pause only occurs when abs man is immune to a debuff

Just to build on this: Bullseye’s instant bleeds aren’t debuffs, they’re burst damage. You could take Bullseye against Taskmaster and continue to apply his instant bleeds throughout the fight, even after Taskmaster becomes debuff immune.

Are you sure about this?
Because when I use peni parker, the instant incinerates don’t apply against incinerate inmune champs
I don’t see why bullseye would be any different

Maratox

Folkvangr said:

Wicket329 said:

Maratox said:

Pause only occurs when abs man is immune to a debuff

Just to build on this: Bullseye’s instant bleeds aren’t debuffs, they’re burst damage. You could take Bullseye against Taskmaster and continue to apply his instant bleeds throughout the fight, even after Taskmaster becomes debuff immune.

Are you sure about this?
Because when I use peni parker, the instant incinerates don’t apply against incinerate inmune champs
I don’t see why bullseye would be any different

That’s different. Those champs are immune to any form of incinerate. Taskmaster is immune to debuffs after a certain amount of applications. So while you can’t apply bleed debuffs you can do bursts of bleed damage as those aren’t debuffs

Ourobøros

Folkvangr said:

Wicket329 said:

Maratox said:

Pause only occurs when abs man is immune to a debuff

Just to build on this: Bullseye’s instant bleeds aren’t debuffs, they’re burst damage. You could take Bullseye against Taskmaster and continue to apply his instant bleeds throughout the fight, even after Taskmaster becomes debuff immune.

Are you sure about this?
Because when I use peni parker, the instant incinerates don’t apply against incinerate inmune champs
I don’t see why bullseye would be any different

Yes, your statement doesn't change a think about what was previously said. Abs Man is immune, he won't take damage from instant bleed, but he won't pause form because it's not a debuff, just as he wouldn't pause if Penny put instant incinerates on him, because that's also not a debuff

Jeramy6815

Opandemonio said:

Folkvangr said:

Wicket329 said:

Maratox said:

Pause only occurs when abs man is immune to a debuff

Just to build on this: Bullseye’s instant bleeds aren’t debuffs, they’re burst damage. You could take Bullseye against Taskmaster and continue to apply his instant bleeds throughout the fight, even after Taskmaster becomes debuff immune.

Are you sure about this?
Because when I use peni parker, the instant incinerates don’t apply against incinerate inmune champs
I don’t see why bullseye would be any different

Yes, your statement doesn't change a think about what was previously said. Abs Man is immune, he won't take damage from instant bleed, but he won't pause form because it's not a debuff, just as he wouldn't pause if Penny put instant incinerates on him, because that's also not a debuff

Then tell me why Valk can pause his form with her instant bleeds?

Maratox

Jeramy6815 said:

Opandemonio said:

Folkvangr said:

Wicket329 said:

Maratox said:

Pause only occurs when abs man is immune to a debuff

Just to build on this: Bullseye’s instant bleeds aren’t debuffs, they’re burst damage. You could take Bullseye against Taskmaster and continue to apply his instant bleeds throughout the fight, even after Taskmaster becomes debuff immune.

Are you sure about this?
Because when I use peni parker, the instant incinerates don’t apply against incinerate inmune champs
I don’t see why bullseye would be any different

Yes, your statement doesn't change a think about what was previously said. Abs Man is immune, he won't take damage from instant bleed, but he won't pause form because it's not a debuff, just as he wouldn't pause if Penny put instant incinerates on him, because that's also not a debuff

Then tell me why Valk can pause his form with her instant bleeds?

That’s definitely a bug based on the wording of his abilities

PT_99

Same reason buff immune champs gets "buff failed"
Overly complicated things which shouldn't exist at first place

Keltan

Same case as Nightcrawler.. is a bleed effect but not a debuff(no duration)

Magrailothos

Keltan said:

Same case as Nightcrawler.. is a bleed effect but not a debuff(no duration)

Agreed. Years back, Nightcrawler used to be one of my favourites to use against Corvus for that reason.

You'll also see instant bleeds very briefly triggering Omega Red's death field.

Chuck_Finley

If I could point to you to page 7, section 4, article 2 of Bullseye’s abilities and note the footnote on Absorbing man in relation to Valkyrie … I would also cite the differentiation of bleed immune vs bleed burst in Appendix C…

I mean, at some point - can this just be a mobile game and not something as incomprehensible as a statute in the tax code?

Ercarret

It does sometimes feel like you have to study more to play the game than you do to actually code the game.

pseudosane

I can ask this to the team.