Forever Paragon. Always and forever

The time has come for myself to finally call a quits to this game. I started this playing this game when a fellow coworker introduced me to Mcoc summer of 2015. Through the years I’ve had the honor to play with some awesome alliances and a few not so great alliances. This game has been there for me through the tough challenges in life and also the happy moments. The reason I’m leaving might sound a little stupid but this all comes from the Valentine’s Day calendar as a paragon player. With all the hype around the calendar I believed (my fault) that paragon players would get a 7* champ and not a CHANCE at one. This made me realize the growing gap between paragon vs valiant players. Ever since the valiant title came out, there has been minimal opportunities to achieve valiant without spending big. Even after completing necropolis, I was unable to r3 a champ because my options were limited with champions. I saw a video on the upcoming BG store buff and there are little changes coming to Paragon players and still I see no way of be long valiant through the BG store. This morning I was made aware of AW changes with top 10 alliances receiving a 7* and that was the tipping point. From what I remember, achieving paragon wasn’t this limiting. So that being said, the time has come for me to sadly uninstall MCOC and will remain now and I the future FOREVER Paragon

Comments

Jefechuta

I mean, Valiant players are supposed to be the most end-game players at the game right, obviously there is going to be a gap between them, a noticeable one, Paragons are too behind rewards wise, thats right, but I mean, thats not a reason to drop the game, just wait a month for the Act 8.4 and you will get Valiant aswell.

Making a mountain out of nowhere

Nemesis_17

If you’ve done necro might as well wait for 8.4 atp. I don’t know where I stand with the game either but heck I’m gonna get valiant

ChaosMax1012

My advice, don’t play a game if you are worried about what others are getting. While its true there is a gap, its reasonable. Currently valiant players are only those who did necropolis 100% or paid for it. These players should be rewarded for being the best of the best, otherwise they would probably be making the most you made just now. As for AW, top 10 is very competitive, and there is even a new tier dedicated to them called ELITE tier. I would be damned if i fought my butt off to make masters and not get a 7* lol. But they also made changes in AW that allows everyone to get 7* shards for 100k loyalty every 1k shards. There are many decisions i disagree with kabam on, like the recent BGs changes only for valiant and not every progression at the same time, but the top players getting the top rewards seems logical. There will always be a gap between hardcore players that dedicate their time to this game vs those who wait for easier opportunities.

Demonzfyre

Thanks for letting us know.

Ayden_noah1

I'm not a big fan of the new Valiant store update cause I was hoping that Paragon would get something, but since I don't spend in the game I'm always going to be behind and I'm ok with that. Spenders need a reason to spend to keep the game going without adds. With the new store, more Valiant players will be able to upgrade their champs faster which makes it harder in BG which I still enjoy. I'm working on gettting Valiant once they release 8.4. FTP players and modest players will never get near big spenders (even Brian Grant who grinds like a mad man) can't compete with spenders so my odds of catching them are none. I have realize this a long time ago so I don't worry about what others get, I just enjoy the game at my pace. If you are trying to keep up with the whales than you need to be a whale yourself othewise you are dead in the water.

DNA3000

The time has come for myself to finally call a quits to this game. I started this playing this game when a fellow coworker introduced me to Mcoc summer of 2015. Through the years I’ve had the honor to play with some awesome alliances and a few not so great alliances. This game has been there for me through the tough challenges in life and also the happy moments. The reason I’m leaving might sound a little stupid but this all comes from the Valentine’s Day calendar as a paragon player. With all the hype around the calendar I believed (my fault) that paragon players would get a 7* champ and not a CHANCE at one. This made me realize the growing gap between paragon vs valiant players. Ever since the valiant title came out, there has been minimal opportunities to achieve valiant without spending big. Even after completing necropolis, I was unable to r3 a champ because my options were limited with champions. I saw a video on the upcoming BG store buff and there are little changes coming to Paragon players and still I see no way of be long valiant through the BG store. This morning I was made aware of AW changes with top 10 alliances receiving a 7* and that was the tipping point. From what I remember, achieving paragon wasn’t this limiting. So that being said, the time has come for me to sadly uninstall MCOC and will remain now and I the future FOREVER Paragon

Ultimately, it is your decision where to spend your time and money, and if you decide you don't want to play any more, that's your choice and it is not my place to try to convince you otherwise.

However, I will point out that the reason you're giving is not entirely truthful. You're pointing out things that are true: it is true that there's a gap in rewards between Paragon and Valiant, and it is true that at the moment it is not easy to become Valiant. Whether it is actually harder than it was to become Paragon or Thronebreaker is debatable, but it is not easy for most players, deliberately so.

What you aren't mentioning, which is the most important element of all of this, is that Valiant has only been around for a relatively short period of time, and just like Paragon and just like Thronebreaker before that, it will get easier over time to become Valiant. What you're complaining about is a temporary situation. You're not quitting because there's a big gap between Paragon and Valiant and you can't become Valiant. You're quitting because there's a big gap between Paragon and Valiant and you can't close that gap now.

Maybe you were Paragon soon after release. Maybe you were Thronebreaker soon after release. The reason why you're quitting is because you can't be Valiant within six months of release. 99.9% of all players of this game are never at the top progression title soon after it comes out. Most will never be at the top progression title ever, only achieving those titles when they are no longer the top title. And yet, they continue to play the game fine.

I'm not saying you're wrong for wanting to be at the top, always. If that's what your goal is for the game, and you have finally decided you can't be at the top so the game no longer interests you, that's your choice. But don't blame the cost of becoming Valiant - players of this game will eventually become Valiant for free, it will just take time (everything eventually gets done for free, because most players play for free, it just takes time). And don't blame the reward gap between Valiant and Paragon, because that gap was always there between progression titles going all the way down to Uncollected. The reason you're leaving is because you can't be at the top, and if you can't be at the top, you don't want to play.

Vegeta9001

May life be better without the game.

ReignkingTW

I'll never understand why FTPers believe they should have the latest and greatest. Manage expectations and you won't be let down.

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o_o

You're leaving the game because you misunderstood the v-day calendar...

Markjv81

Really no different to how thronebreaker was treated when paragon became a thing.

Squirrelguy

I'll never understand why FTPers believe they should have the latest and greatest. Manage expectations and you won't be let down.

But if an overreaction there, but I see this a lot on the forums. The OP didn’t mention anything about being FTP, and only used the phrase “minimal options without spending big”, which is both simplistic and not entirely accurate. Nobody complained that FTP players can’t have the best and latest (in this thread), but in the case of Valiant, there are certainly a sizable portion of players that did it without paying. I’m only one Necro path away.

Crys23

I've also been playing since 2015, FTP and I'm valiant with 3 R3s. Just gotta be careful with unit spending. I did 100% Necro within 2 weeks of release so I got my Valiant that way, (took Attuma to r3, whatever, it was about the title not some great new rank on a good champ).
I also just took another r3 up with catalysts, bought 1.5 t4a on Cyber with units, and another 1.5 for 9k units from the Romance store.
If you're not willing to put in the effort and make some though choices, you don't have the right to complain.
By not ranking an average or even bad champ to r3 just to become Valiant, you're missing out on a lot of rewards that would give you the flexibility to rank anyone you want. Kinda like cutting your nose to spite your face.

PT_99

That's a long paragraph to write "I don't wanna try to be Valiant 😡"

Priyabrata

Gonna steal this real quick

Rasilover

Paragon players oppressed just like Cavaliers

Gamer

The time has come for myself to finally call a quits to this game. I started this playing this game when a fellow coworker introduced me to Mcoc summer of 2015. Through the years I’ve had the honor to play with some awesome alliances and a few not so great alliances. This game has been there for me through the tough challenges in life and also the happy moments. The reason I’m leaving might sound a little stupid but this all comes from the Valentine’s Day calendar as a paragon player. With all the hype around the calendar I believed (my fault) that paragon players would get a 7* champ and not a CHANCE at one. This made me realize the growing gap between paragon vs valiant players. Ever since the valiant title came out, there has been minimal opportunities to achieve valiant without spending big. Even after completing necropolis, I was unable to r3 a champ because my options were limited with champions. I saw a video on the upcoming BG store buff and there are little changes coming to Paragon players and still I see no way of be long valiant through the BG store. This morning I was made aware of AW changes with top 10 alliances receiving a 7* and that was the tipping point. From what I remember, achieving paragon wasn’t this limiting. So that being said, the time has come for me to sadly uninstall MCOC and will remain now and I the future FOREVER Paragon

If u believe pargon wasn’t limited when that’s first launched it was horrible u had to buying deals to get it mainly had to buying act 7 deal twice plus do a few carina challenges. So that’s was way harder then valiant you is choosing not to r3 a champion because u don’t like the chosen your ben give us one you i r3 rocket raccoon. Because the valiant giv so much better then pargone so I got valiant in the middle of December and yes I did spend for in to start but since then have done nerc so can hav 3 r3 but I chose to hold one the generic gem from nerco to after 8.4 get launched

Paceman

Thanks for letting us know.

Thanks for your pointless comment

Ashacekar

Born a Paragon, Die a Paragon. True loyalty to Paragon Community.

AcidBurn404

See ya next week

captain_rogers

That's how thronebreakers felt when Paragon became the most rewarded title, Cavailers felt when thronebreaker became the most rewarded title, Uncollected felt when cavailer became the most rewarded and so on.

The game keeps on going like that, You can either push or play chill, But quitting a game over this reason is absurd

KillSwitch

The time has come for myself to finally call a quits to this game. I started this playing this game when a fellow coworker introduced me to Mcoc summer of 2015. Through the years I’ve had the honor to play with some awesome alliances and a few not so great alliances. This game has been there for me through the tough challenges in life and also the happy moments. The reason I’m leaving might sound a little stupid but this all comes from the Valentine’s Day calendar as a paragon player. With all the hype around the calendar I believed (my fault) that paragon players would get a 7* champ and not a CHANCE at one. This made me realize the growing gap between paragon vs valiant players. Ever since the valiant title came out, there has been minimal opportunities to achieve valiant without spending big. Even after completing necropolis, I was unable to r3 a champ because my options were limited with champions. I saw a video on the upcoming BG store buff and there are little changes coming to Paragon players and still I see no way of be long valiant through the BG store. This morning I was made aware of AW changes with top 10 alliances receiving a 7* and that was the tipping point. From what I remember, achieving paragon wasn’t this limiting. So that being said, the time has come for me to sadly uninstall MCOC and will remain now and I the future FOREVER Paragon

Right there with you, brother. I’ve played faithfully since literally day 1 in December of 2014, but Kabam has completely lost me at this point. Unbelievably stupid and unnecessary barriers put in place to cause many of us Paragon players to sit here fuming for months and months, while hearing about how amazing something is that you have no realistic shot at attaining anytime soon. I am an adult with a family and an actual life, so exploring Necropolis is a total joke. It feels completely pointless logging in each day at this point.

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Mackey

I mean, Valiant players are supposed to be the most end-game players at the game right, obviously there is going to be a gap between them, a noticeable one, Paragons are too behind rewards wise, thats right, but I mean, thats not a reason to drop the game, just wait a month for the Act 8.4 and you will get Valiant aswell.

Making a mountain out of nowhere

One wont get Valiant from 8.4/act 8 alone mate.

o_o

The time has come for myself to finally call a quits to this game. I started this playing this game when a fellow coworker introduced me to Mcoc summer of 2015. Through the years I’ve had the honor to play with some awesome alliances and a few not so great alliances. This game has been there for me through the tough challenges in life and also the happy moments. The reason I’m leaving might sound a little stupid but this all comes from the Valentine’s Day calendar as a paragon player. With all the hype around the calendar I believed (my fault) that paragon players would get a 7* champ and not a CHANCE at one. This made me realize the growing gap between paragon vs valiant players. Ever since the valiant title came out, there has been minimal opportunities to achieve valiant without spending big. Even after completing necropolis, I was unable to r3 a champ because my options were limited with champions. I saw a video on the upcoming BG store buff and there are little changes coming to Paragon players and still I see no way of be long valiant through the BG store. This morning I was made aware of AW changes with top 10 alliances receiving a 7* and that was the tipping point. From what I remember, achieving paragon wasn’t this limiting. So that being said, the time has come for me to sadly uninstall MCOC and will remain now and I the future FOREVER Paragon
Right there with you, brother. I’ve played faithfully since literally day 1 in December of 2014, but Kabam has completely lost me at this point. Unbelievably stupid and unnecessary barriers put in place to cause many of us Paragon players to sit here fuming for months and months, while hearing about how amazing something is that you have no realistic shot at attaining anytime soon. I am an adult with a family and an actual life, so exploring Necropolis is a total joke. It feels completely pointless logging in each day at this point.

Spare us this “adult with a family and an actual life” stuff. A necropolis path can be done in the time it takes to watch a few episodes of a show or go to a sports game. I’m paragon myself, but there are people in my alliance with jobs and young kids who have cleared necropolis. You want to do something else with your time, fine; but don’t act like you’re better than people who allocate their leisure time to mcoc.

Gogi

Thanks for letting us know.
Thanks for your pointless comment

Um he is not wrong.. He could just have quitted like any other player, why come here and whine about not being Valiant.

Lovejoy72

This is so odd.

Most of the posts about valiant I’ve been engaged with is people with the valiant title arguing about how little value it has. Spend most of my time defending its value based exclusively on the daily crystal

At the outset of this kabam did a fairly excellent job outlining exactly how people would have access to valiant across the first several months. You either did Necro and bought the cyber deals, explored necro, or waited until 8.4 dropped and some combination of the above.

And then they promised that they would slowly introduce valiant based rewards in the interim. Certainly what they never said was that valiant would be totally worthless until they dropped 8.4

now, without getting too much into the weeds, I think I can fairly argue that my life is worse, harder and more constrained than the vast majority of the people playing this game. For me, the game is an escape and a distraction. the way that I got valiant done, to be honest, was leaving my alliance. It offered no meaningful help towards getting the title, and in fact, was making it impossible to focus on it. And I haven’t gone back as I still don’t see the upside in the face of my responsibilities versus actually achieving the things I want in game.

If you can’t leave your alliance because that’s part of the joy of the game to you, then you have your reward. The relationships in your alliance. And then I wouldn’t see why you would leave the game as you would leave those relationships. Otherwise, make a choice? Would the game be more fun as a valiant? then become a valiant.

Squirrelguy

@Lovejoy72 Accurate. While I am certainly one to encourage people to consider going without an alliance, I have found a semi-retired alliance to be entertaining in its own right. A handful of us have been together for at least 6 years, and several even back to 2016, but we also have a large group of progressing and lower accounts that are just now facing the Champion boss, for instance. It's fun, you get the bonus of being in an alliance (events rewards, etc), you can still play through things like Raids, but you can put in minimal to no effort in AQ/AW. Shoot me a message if you are interested in an easier Alliance life, but hopefully your actual life just clears up and gets better.

Avnish

I tried so hard and grinded revive before it got nerfed. I gave 10-15 days and become valient in 1st week of January. Every good thing has a price even in game and if you want you have to pay for.

Even kabam ignored bg store for 3-4 month for valient. they finally did it. Now you are coming with a sad post and uninstalling the MCOC. I am glad kabam atleast gave FTP to get the valient title with spending money by exploring necropolis.