Non-dodgable specials???

JarlofModesto25

I’ve been playing this game for a while thru its ups and downs but this month might be it. Adding champions whose specials you can’t dodge is just straight cheating no matter how you put it. What’s the point of playing if playing perfectly isn’t even good enough?? I am done.

Atta_Master

Which champ special u can't dex?

Bendy

Atta_Master said:

Which champ special u can't dex?

I think serpent who unless u remove true sense ur dex gets turned off i believe or something in serpents kit removes ur dex when he throws a special

LeoZed

Photon's in pure of light form

Klipp

LeoZed said:

Photon's in pure of light form

I believe I read somewhere or from someone you have to parry her hits not Dex but I never looked into it

LeoZed

Klipp said:

LeoZed said:

Photon's in pure of light form

I believe I read somewhere or from someone you have to parry her hits not Dex but I never looked into it

Yeah but you can't dex right?

Bendy

Klipp said:

LeoZed said:

Photon's in pure of light form

I believe I read somewhere or from someone you have to parry her hits not Dex but I never looked into it

This is a thread about non-dodging which photons comes under unless there dash back says otherwise like nc and silk who both can ignore hits when dashing back

PT_99

I'd say Karnak sp-1 has to be the hardest sp to avoid getting hit.

Rayven5220

PT_99 said:

I'd say Karnak sp-1 has to be the hardest sp to avoid getting hit.

Hate to admit this, but I've actually been hit by that..... hahaha

It was a terrible day.

Bendy

Rayven5220 said:

PT_99 said:

I'd say Karnak sp-1 has to be the hardest sp to avoid getting hit.

Hate to admit this, but I've actually been hit by that..... hahaha

It was a terrible day.

I think everyone has at some point even i have due to ai not throwing it until i went it for the medium

Bendy

JarlofModesto25 said:

I’ve been playing this game for a while thru its ups and downs but this month might be it. Adding champions whose specials you can’t dodge is just straight cheating no matter how you put it. What’s the point of playing if playing perfectly isn’t even good enough?? I am done.

If this is about photon how ive started playing her is make sure she doesnt have power if at 10 knock her down then wait till gone or if u want to ignore photons pure light best route is aar so when attacking u dont get any debuffs on u, if its the serpent u need to neutralize the true focus buff when he specials its a lot to process but u will get hang of it if u really want to avoid them u can use champs that in kit say cant be hit when dashing so silk and nc are 2 options

Aecyn

I just find it weird that one of the core controls of the game loses its main purpose. Imagine playing and trying to dash forward and it just fails and you stand there... It just feels bad to have timed it right but not have it work. I know your champ still moves backwards but it effectively feels like your controls did nothing. There are work arounds to all the cases that can be found but it's just bad design. Add AW nodes to these broken defenders kit and suddenly you have an impossible combination and are forced to take the points loss.

Dexterity failed is also misleading because that's a mastery that gives a buff once you dodge something. If anything, that mechanic should just stop the buff triggering and not avoiding the hit.

Buttehrs

There are other ways to avoid them though. If they are unblockable, use a champ that blocks unblockable etc.

SecondSkriller

Buttehrs said:

There are other ways to avoid them though. If they are unblockable, use a champ that blocks unblockable etc.

Sill a bs mechanic. Just use Silk, Vulture, Spidey 2099, Nightcrawler or other champs that can dodge undexable stuff

MarvelSPMAN14

Heimdall’s Sp2 is tragic 😭

Usagicassidy

I still almost never succesfully dodge the specials of one of the most universally seen as worst characters - Cyclops.

I don't know what it is, but I almost always get hit by at least one of the beams lol.

ShashankGupta

Someone said impossible to dodge special
Punisher2099 special attacks is the impossible to dex

Terra

MarvelSPMAN14 said:

Heimdall’s Sp2 is tragic 😭

Avoid making him have Armor Up Buffs and his sp2 is avoidable by dex.

Qmon

Ikaris sp2 is one I can't dodge

Aecyn

At least ikaris you can try to just not push him to sp2. And there are a lot of specials you can't dodge but you can block them without much issue. The problem is attacks that would be easy to dodge but the game makes it hit you anyway. Dexterity failed is just a feel bad mechanic. What's next? Intercept failed?

GrO_ot78

Viv sp1…last ⚡️…every time 🥵🥵🥵

Toproller89

Dex failing isn't a new thing, can happen with Void, Domino and Heimdall also

Gamer

Aecyn said:

At least ikaris you can try to just not push him to sp2. And there are a lot of specials you can't dodge but you can block them without much issue. The problem is attacks that would be easy to dodge but the game makes it hit you anyway. Dexterity failed is just a feel bad mechanic. What's next? Intercept failed?

sole him long time
Just move away from the first hit blok the rest I agerd there need to stop making dexterity stop working

winterthur

Aecyn said:

The problem is attacks that would be easy to dodge but the game makes it hit you anyway. Dexterity failed is just a feel bad mechanic. What's next? Intercept failed?

Dexterity fail - Domino
Intercept fail - Mighty Charge

Thought these are already in-game.

Pandingo

Rayven5220 said:

PT_99 said:

I'd say Karnak sp-1 has to be the hardest sp to avoid getting hit.

Hate to admit this, but I've actually been hit by that..... hahaha

It was a terrible day.

Been there. I was so ashamed. Almost as bad a being hit by diablos

i13

It’s when you dex perfectly and still it manages to put a damage over time effect on you

Aecyn

winterthur said:

Aecyn said:

The problem is attacks that would be easy to dodge but the game makes it hit you anyway. Dexterity failed is just a feel bad mechanic. What's next? Intercept failed?

Dexterity fail - Domino
Intercept fail - Mighty Charge

Thought these are already in-game.

I thought mighty charge just made them debuff immune, intercept failed is more like dashing into unstoppable but at least that's an obvious mistake.

Gamer said:

Aecyn said:

At least ikaris you can try to just not push him to sp2. And there are a lot of specials you can't dodge but you can block them without much issue. The problem is attacks that would be easy to dodge but the game makes it hit you anyway. Dexterity failed is just a feel bad mechanic. What's next? Intercept failed?

sole him long time
Just move away from the first hit blok the rest I agerd there need to stop making dexterity stop working

I've been hit by the first hit with a dex fail a few times when he's right up in my business. Most of the time it's fine because he throws it further away.

Aecyn

Toproller89 said:

Dex failing isn't a new thing, can happen with Void, Domino and Heimdall also

The difference is you can block those. Heimdall you just bait the sp1 and you can get around it.

At the end of the day, it'll eventually become something we get used to dealing with because these champs do have a way to do so. It's just been a trend with defenders lately that feels bad.

Reminds me of a post a few months ago about how someone noticed kabams fall back mechanic to make quest nodes difficult is to give everyone unblockable. Now it's that plus you can't avoid the hit, AND it's part of a champs base kit.

Rayven5220

Pandingo said:

Rayven5220 said:

PT_99 said:

I'd say Karnak sp-1 has to be the hardest sp to avoid getting hit.

Hate to admit this, but I've actually been hit by that..... hahaha

It was a terrible day.

Been there. I was so ashamed. Almost as bad a being hit by diablos

Been there as well.

We may need to create a support group. Now I know I'm not alone. Hahaha

peixemacaco

GrO_ot78 said:

Viv sp1…last ⚡️…every time 🥵🥵🥵

Viv Vision SP1 is amazing. Could be Sp.2 and nobody will notice

Samanun

🎯😡