King Groots furys [Under Investigation]

How come King Groots poison damage aint increased the more he has furys?

With every other champ who gains fury and has dot damage, the dot damage is incresed if fury is on

Comments

Greenstroke

No mod hasnt commented on this so i decided to bring this up again, and also have some photos attached too that KG:s poison doesnt scale based on attack.

Here is a photo of me fighting against KG in act 5 and the poison is only 104 per tic, even tho his attack is boosted by 350% from the node.

And Photo photo of me fighting against ROL WS and not using any synergys nor boosts, and the damage is even more than a 5* boosted KG:s. 105 per tic

And as we know, all dot damage inflicted on a powershield node during special attack is scaled to do 400% increased damage, but with KG that is not the case

Could somebody clarify me why this is the case on KG?

He's not a very popular guy anyway but would be just nice to get some boosting to his poison damage.

DrZola

Thank you for putting screen shots with your comments. I've wondered the same thing myself--his Sp2 is incredibly underwhelming. Any mod want to put this one under investigation?

Dr. Zola

Mæx

Greenstroke wrote: »

No mod hasnt commented on this so i decided to bring this up again, and also have some photos attached too that KG:s poison doesnt scale based on attack.

Here is a photo of me fighting against KG in act 5 and the poison is only 104 per tic, even tho his attack is boosted by 350% from the node.

And Photo photo of me fighting against ROL WS and not using any synergys nor boosts, and the damage is even more than a 5* boosted KG:s. 105 per tic

And as we know, all dot damage inflicted on a powershield node during special attack is scaled to do 400% increased damage, but with KG that is not the case

Could somebody clarify me why this is the case on KG?

He's not a very popular guy anyway but would be just nice to get some boosting to his poison damage.

Question, why would you bring x 23 into king groom, he’s bleed immune

DrZola

X23 gets cruelty stacks against bleed immune champs.

Dr. Zola

Kabam Zibiit

Hey @Greenstroke, I'll get this looked into and let you know as soon as we have more information. Thanks for providing the screenshots and other info as well!

Kabam Zibiit

Just needed to ask a quick follow-up question @Greenstroke: do you remember if King Groot had any Fury's on him at the time the Poison was applied? If so, do you remember how many? The information could help in trying to replicate this since damaging debuffs typically scale their damage based on the applying Champion's stats at the time the debuff is applied, so Fury buffs he gained afterward wouldn't increase the Poison's damage.

Spera

Poison damage isn't increasing with fury ,all that's happening is when you have fury buffs king groot would lose one and apply 2x poison debuffs instead of just 1

Mr_Otter

Spera wrote: »

Poison damage isn't increasing with fury ,all that's happening is when you have fury buffs king groot would lose one and apply 2x poison debuffs instead of just 1

Actually DoT abilities ARE increased with fury.

Voodoo with the random buff (rolled in fury)

Hyperion Incinerate when boosted by either Cosmic charged or Fury

And the Star Lord Dupe+Fury SHOCK FROM ZEUS HIMSELF!

Or any DoT female with the Women’s day bonus

Even synergies with attack+ and DoT champions

Even Carnage with Fury does extra bleed (same with Venonpool if he rolls Rage or Fury)

Also Class bonus, Blade’s danger sense with bleed, and Stark Spider Shock with poise all get boosted

It’s tbe reason Angela DOESN’T have Bleed cause even a 50% Damage Bleed on crits off a 142-216% boosted attack (a total of 242-316% after adding her base) would be over 150% Bleed on crits and as we know Angela is pretty powerful with her blunt sword and making it sharp would be deadly as HECK with little she couldn’t kill even when facing bleed immune

Greenstroke

Kabam Zibiit wrote: »

Just needed to ask a quick follow-up question @Greenstroke: do you remember if King Groot had any Fury's on him at the time the Poison was applied? If so, do you remember how many? The information could help in trying to replicate this since damaging debuffs typically scale their damage based on the applying Champion's stats at the time the debuff is applied, so Fury buffs he gained afterward wouldn't increase the Poison's damage.

I did all specials during the regen period so he wouldnt have any furys on to get as close comparison as possible on all photos, so there would be only one poison active.

Spera

@Mr_Otter I know how it's supposed to work , we're here talking about king groot specifically and I'm saying how he is acting now .
Obviously he's not working correctly

CapWW2

Please can you fix king groot damage. Why he is so low on attack. I have stacked 10 armor breaks and damage is the same.

Mr_Otter

Spera wrote: »

@Mr_Otter I know how it's supposed to work , we're here talking about king groot specifically and I'm saying how he is acting now .
Obviously he's not working correctly

Oops sorry misread it while overtired. My bad

Warofgods13514

Guys I've played King Groot as a 5 star plenty of times. The poison damage doesn't go up he only applys 2 poison debuffs with his SP2 even he has furys active.

Greenstroke

Warofgods13514 wrote: »

Guys I've played King Groot as a 5 star plenty of times. The poison damage doesn't go up he only applys 2 poison debuffs with his SP2 even he has furys active.

Yep this is the problem i've seen. His poison doesnt scale based on damage

DrZola

That is consistent with my experience. Poison damage remains constant regardless of the number of furies.

Dr. Zola

Primmer79

CapWW2 wrote: »

Please can you fix king groot damage. Why he is so low on attack. I have stacked 10 armor breaks and damage is the same.

Because armor breaks don't work like they used to. They bottom out at 0 armor, they can't go negative any more.

A poison fix would go a long way, but he still has pillow hands.

DrZola

Any update/resolution on this one?

Dr. Zola

Mr_Platypus

@Kabam Zibiit an update would be nice

Greenstroke

Any update on this?

YoMoves

Primmer79 wrote: »

CapWW2 wrote: »

Please can you fix king groot damage. Why he is so low on attack. I have stacked 10 armor breaks and damage is the same.

Because armor breaks don't work like they used to. They bottom out at 0 armor, they can't go negative any more.

A poison fix would go a long way, but he still has pillow hands.

No, it does go negative (see Thor), but diminishing returns means it doesn't get as exponentially disastrous as it used to.

Primmer79

YoMoves wrote: »

Primmer79 wrote: »

CapWW2 wrote: »

Please can you fix king groot damage. Why he is so low on attack. I have stacked 10 armor breaks and damage is the same.

Because armor breaks don't work like they used to. They bottom out at 0 armor, they can't go negative any more.

A poison fix would go a long way, but he still has pillow hands.

No, it does go negative (see Thor), but diminishing returns means it doesn't get as exponentially disastrous as it used to.

Thor doesn't work like he used to because it won't go negative. DR affects it too. Check out the threads on IF and pure skill

1haunted_memory

no answer yet????? I love KG!!!!!

Greenstroke

Thanks for fixing KG

NOT!!!!! What the f is taking so long?