Are we sleeping on Dealthless Guillotine?

Yasir175

After duping her by clearing the objective, I'm really surprise at her new form! With sig ability she is literary 10 times better than before? What do you guys think?

Bendy

Ive been using mine for time she just gets hate on due to it isnt the new guilly where she uses a curse can regen on hits but to me i prefer this kit to the buff as makes her useable and kills way faster like today in my war of xmagica i soloed a nick boss with my r3 in i believe a minute

Gamer

I try her but lost because I didn’t getting the rng with the degeneration. Even with the fouce one the pri stil didn’t get more critical after 20 hit I got a total of 2 critical.

Nemesis_17

I mean it’s possible that we are

Pikolu

The one aspect of Guillotine that probably caused people to sleep on her is her Crit RNG reliance. If you crit a bunch, she is super good. If you almost never crit, then your damage is going to royally suck. That's the game you have to play with her.

Dab_west

no way bro has physical resist stat focus on offence

Priyabrata

My guy, why do you not have the precision stat focus on?

Bendy

Dab_west said:

no way bro has physical resist stat focus on offence

Didnt even realise the guy had physical resist might aswell have been armor or adrenaline haha

hydrogohard

Yes

Polygon

hydrogohard said:

Yes

Rank 1 Maestro?

Cause if thats r2 she may as well be a better attacker than Juggs, and obviously not restricted by debuffs shutting her down like Juggs

captain_rogers

She is like capiw.capiw can end every bg fight in one sp2 and if his sp2 crits. But it is rng. Same with gully, if she crits, she can end any fight quick. On the other hand, cgr is like a guaranteed nuke, do these steps and end the fight in 30 seconds kind of champ.

Toproller89

captain_rogers said:

She is like capiw.capiw can end every bg fight in one sp2 and if his sp2 crits. But it is rng. Same with gully, if she crits, she can end any fight quick. On the other hand, cgr is like a guaranteed nuke, do these steps and end the fight in 30 seconds kind of champ.

Sunspot is the same, one sp2 and most are dead

hydrogohard

Polygon said:

hydrogohard said:

Yes

Rank 1 Maestro?

Cause if thats r2 she may as well be a better attacker than Juggs, and obviously not restricted by debuffs shutting her down like Juggs

Yes she rank 2

hydrogohard

Polygon said:

hydrogohard said:

Yes

Rank 1 Maestro?

Cause if thats r2 she may as well be a better attacker than Juggs, and obviously not restricted by debuffs shutting her down like Juggs

I mean she rank 2 and he was rank 2 or 3

captain_rogers

Toproller89 said:

captain_rogers said:

She is like capiw.capiw can end every bg fight in one sp2 and if his sp2 crits. But it is rng. Same with gully, if she crits, she can end any fight quick. On the other hand, cgr is like a guaranteed nuke, do these steps and end the fight in 30 seconds kind of champ.

Sunspot is the same, one sp2 and most are dead

Not really, like, it's not guaranteed, sometimes you need to launch few basic hits after sp2, and sometimes you need not to.

But yes, he is as reliable as cgr, unlike capiw

willrun4adonut

Nemesis_17 said:

I mean it’s possible that we are

What rotation are you doing, and what rank? Mine's r1 but this is what I got. Spamming sp1until a sp3 finish with a synergy team.

Nemesis_17

willrun4adonut said:

Nemesis_17 said:

I mean it’s possible that we are

What rotation are you doing, and what rank? Mine's r1 but this is what I got. Spamming sp1until a sp3 finish with a synergy team.

I do basically the same thing but without the sp1s. Just 5 hit combo until sp3, hold until SP3 can kill which is usually around 30% with 15 souls. That fight was also an r1 no boosts or synergies just suicides. Obviously I got pretty good crit rng that fight but with average rng she still only takes around 40-45s.

willrun4adonut

Nemesis_17 said:

willrun4adonut said:

Nemesis_17 said:

I mean it’s possible that we are

What rotation are you doing, and what rank? Mine's r1 but this is what I got. Spamming sp1until a sp3 finish with a synergy team.

I do basically the same thing but without the sp1s. Just 5 hit combo until sp3, hold until SP3 can kill which is usually around 30% with 15 souls. That fight was also an r1 no boosts or synergies just suicides. Obviously I got pretty good crit rng that fight but with average rng she still only takes around 40-45s.

Thanks. I didn't even realize you had suicides on. Should have looked closer l. That makes more sense to me now.

Nemesis_17

willrun4adonut said:

Nemesis_17 said:

willrun4adonut said:

Nemesis_17 said:

I mean it’s possible that we are

What rotation are you doing, and what rank? Mine's r1 but this is what I got. Spamming sp1until a sp3 finish with a synergy team.

I do basically the same thing but without the sp1s. Just 5 hit combo until sp3, hold until SP3 can kill which is usually around 30% with 15 souls. That fight was also an r1 no boosts or synergies just suicides. Obviously I got pretty good crit rng that fight but with average rng she still only takes around 40-45s.

Thanks. I didn't even realize you had suicides on. Should have looked closer l. That makes more sense to me now.

Yep suicides definitely speed her up, but it’s still faster than everyone in my roster except Cgr. And that’s with them having suicides.

GroundedWisdom

Not at all. I love her. Perfect mix of pre and post buff.

laserjohn26

Hopefully not with the armor on. Seems like it would be very uncomfortable.

PT_99

hydrogohard said:

Yes

What in god's name, how

hydrogohard

PT_99 said:

hydrogohard said:

Yes

What in god's name, how

I got like 8 degens on him at once..plus she rank 2 and I'm running suicides

Deacon

she's definitely serviceable and one could argue R2 or R3 worthy ..... but she's not among the top mystics by a stretch. still .. i do really really enjoy her and she catches people by surprise quite often in BGs so keep not banning her in my deck please lol

Bendy

Deacon said:

she's definitely serviceable and one could argue R2 or R3 worthy ..... but she's not among the top mystics by a stretch. still .. i do really really enjoy her and she catches people by surprise quite often in BGs so keep not banning her in my deck please lol

Same here her in deck needs to be banned but they think not too so many times ive gotten easy wins due to guilly crushing it

Bendy

hydrogohard said:

Yes

This is crazy rng btw like damn that is insanity of an rng for crits but works in favour so well as it paid off as 18 seconds is quick and against a maestro too

BeastDad

The problem with her is, you need to get lucky. Everything is rng based with her, damage and healing once duped.

ShashankGupta

BeastDad said:

The problem with her is, you need to get lucky. Everything is rng based with her, damage and healing once duped.

That's why I like og Guillotine she has guaranteed way to deal damage using heavy attack and then special attacks to place massive bleed damage

Jazz_Messenger

I like her a lot because there are not many champs that can counter degeneration. My only hesitation to rank her up is that she lacks utility like nullify and stagger or power controls that many Mystic champs have.

But my other 7* Mystics are Ebony Maw, Mangog, Sorcerer Supreme and Mojo. I might just rank up Guillotine over them.

Cryptoman78

Would you guys spend 10k units for her ? Im 2 pieces short from getting her. Also will there be any other options to awaken her in the future if I decide to not get her now?

Bendy

ShashankGupta said:

BeastDad said:

The problem with her is, you need to get lucky. Everything is rng based with her, damage and healing once duped.

That's why I like og Guillotine she has guaranteed way to deal damage using heavy attack and then special attacks to place massive bleed damage

Thing with this way is for bgs its slow and requires high sig to fight bleed immunes and that doesnt have high physical resist due to ruptures if u have dup max sig whereas deathless is straight degen and no one is immune to degen plus as a 7 stat focus precision ive tested both my deathless and og guilly of playing normal and deathless is just way quicker due to bleed chance is 35% on crits like even if i went the heavy route she still be slower in bgs