Nerf onslaught and bullseye

Nerf them or give everyone them (reference doom). But seriously the passive damage and block damage in bg is enough to pull hair out. Spent all 6 star shards on the featured still don’t have either. I really don’t like banning the 6 stars of them when the opponent has a bunch of 7r3. But they are so annoying that I just have to. Just took 50% block damage from bullseye even tho I played perfect, huge blow, not fun.

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Terra

Onslaught isn't too bad when you get the sp1 dex down... bullseye is BS though. Hate when Kabam use abilities to removed skill, it's such a dumb idea. At least Onslaught you can completely dex his specials but if you dex bullseye you still lose tonnes of health not to mention the killer instinct 😫

Can't wait for the champions next month to completely shut off Bullseye's Killer Instinct, have fun surviving him until then 😁❤️

Cvlr

Or give everyone onslaught and bullseye

Gogi

I agree!
Boost Bullseye and Onslaught!

captain_rogers

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laserjohn26

Instead of nerfing bullseye and onslaught you could instead buff your skill.

phillgreen

Or ban them, like what people do to me every time.

Magrailothos

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Instead of nerfing bullseye and onslaught you could instead buff your skill.

Phew! Just quick enough there, @captain_rogers .... 😉

Bullseye's instant bleed damage isn't about skill; it's about either being bleed immune or having good enough power control to prevent Bullseye ever throwing a Special.

Zuro

Two easy fixes imo, remove the bleed damage from dexing bullseye and reduce chance to trigger neuroshock when striking Onslaught with a tech champ

1199345

Or just ban them...

SecondSkriller

Onslaught isn't too bad when you get the sp1 dex down... bullseye is BS though. Hate when Kabam use abilities to removed skill, it's such a dumb idea. At least Onslaught you can completely dex his specials but if you dex bullseye you still lose tonnes of health not to mention the killer instinct 😫

Bullseye is so bad on defense r2 Bishops take my r3 down in 40 seconds. He literally just needs a mutant counter and he’s useless. Less value than Sasquatch and you all are asking for a nerf…

Emilia90

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Onslaught isn’t too bad. Got hit in the Sersi fight twice (oops she can definitely do the fight better but I forgot about crushed, same with Fant, I messed up the sp1 dex) but my point still stands

captain_rogers

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Onslaught isn’t too bad. Got hit in the Sersi fight twice (oops she can definitely do the fight better but I forgot about crushed, same with Fant, I messed up the sp1 dex) but my point still stands

Isn't hulkling metal champ? The fights are fin but I still stand on my point - onslut nd foolseye, both are unfair defenders who needs a little tune down.

Rayven5220

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Onslaught isn’t too bad. Got hit in the Sersi fight twice (oops she can definitely do the fight better but I forgot about crushed, same with Fant, I messed up the sp1 dex) but my point still stands

Isn't hulkling metal champ? The fights are fin but I still stand on my point - onslut nd foolseye, both are unfair defenders who needs a little tune down.

Leave my onslaught alone, Cap!!
Git gud, bro! Haha

Bullseye though, I agree he needs something done. Even with a perfect counter you're still taking massive damage from that sp1, ughh...

I have a feeling he will be toned down, hence I'm not ranking my 7* until I see what happens to him. 😪

M0NKEYNUTS

Please don't nerf either of them. It will be months of "give us RDT" threads and the forum servers will crash.

Colinwhitworth69

Nerf them or give everyone them (reference doom). But seriously the passive damage and block damage in bg is enough to pull hair out. Spent all 6 star shards on the featured still don’t have either. I really don’t like banning the 6 stars of them when the opponent has a bunch of 7r3. But they are so annoying that I just have to. Just took 50% block damage from bullseye even tho I played perfect, huge blow, not fun.

I ban champs that I struggle to defeat, so Onslaught always and Bullseye maybe gets banned. My Bullseye gets defeated as often as not, and I have managed to defeat him a few times.

But I will say that the addition of many hard defenders to the game has turned BGs into a chore, and unless you are a super duper try hard sweaty player you're going to mostly be frustrated. If that's what Kabam wants as the player experiuence, so be it. Doesn't make much sense to me, but it's their game.

Wicket329

The difference between Onslaught and Bullseye is that Onslaught can be nuked down consistently. Any champion with sufficient damage output can handle him before the neuros get out of hand.

Bullseye, on the other hand, has a mechanic that prevents most nuke champions from working because you have to interrupt your flow as soon as he gains a bar of power. There are workarounds to this, but the most common nuke champs are not on that list of options.

captain_rogers

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Onslaught isn’t too bad. Got hit in the Sersi fight twice (oops she can definitely do the fight better but I forgot about crushed, same with Fant, I messed up the sp1 dex) but my point still stands

Isn't hulkling metal champ? The fights are fin but I still stand on my point - onslut nd foolseye, both are unfair defenders who needs a little tune down.
Leave my onslaught alone, Cap!!
Git gud, bro! Haha

Bullseye though, I agree he needs something done. Even with a perfect counter you're still taking massive damage from that sp1, ughh...

I have a feeling he will be toned down, hence I'm not ranking my 7* until I see what happens to him. 😪

Maybe If I pull him. But it's unlikely they nerf onslaught, but on bullseye, I have high hopes they tone him down a bit but it ain't gonna affect him much, he would still be a Pain in defense

Nemesis_17

I now have both bullseye and onslaught, and even though they get me wins, I still think they both deserve tune downs. Fairly minor ones though.

For Bullseye I suggest either allowing his killer instinct to be reduced by ability accuracy, (allowing champs that inflict slow to counter him) or having him not regain his killer instinct when pushed to 2 bars of power. That way you could use a relic with anyone to disable the killer instinct, and push almost to 3 bars of power before baiting a special. Greatly mitigating the bs block damage and allowing more champs to take the fight healthier.

Onslaught is a tricky one. Other than gaining neuroshocks just for hitting him, nothing about his kit is completely bs like bullseye. He’s a much fairer fight, but still incredibly difficult. I would suggest either allowing tech champs to not gain neuros just from hitting him, or remove his crushed charge on defense. He’s already got a lot to worry about and the crushed just prevents champs from not baiting a special and nuking him down. Onslaught is a champ whose base kit alone is a challenge, and nodes only take his difficulty even higher. He’s a fairly designed fight… for the top 5%. If even high tier players struggle against him what chance does the average community member have?

We used to have fairer defenders with more difficult nodes to raise the difficulty, now we have a few awful defenders and nuke metas. As a result, it seems like these few defenders are so far above the rest that my old school less annoying defenders do very little on defense, because without nodes to help them there isn’t much they can do. But at the same time if we had more difficult nodes the top defenders would be even worse. There’s a balance issue. The new flashy defenders indirectly nerf some of the older ones.

Anyway this was a nerf suggestion turned rant but yeah I don’t think these new defenders have improved the game at all.

Ayden_noah1

Bulleyes is definitely a pain with his mechanics of making sure you will always take damage. I recently discover Emma (recently pulled as s 7 star) as a great counter for him, she is bleed immune and in telephatic mode, he can't evade her. Do a few heavies to get her above a bar of power and it's game over. With her I was able to finally see Bulleyes elusive special 2. I didn't think he had a special 2 since he always throws his special 1 when he gets it.

xLunatiXx

No need to nerf any

Vanitelia

Onslaught is fine. You're not intended to block him so when when you do, you're punished. I struggled against him a lot but now that I can dex his sp1, he isn't too bad. Have to get your intercepts down though. Hulkling is the ideal counter for the guy since you can get your ins easier, but any high damage champ can take him pretty quickly.

I'm still working on Bullseye. I can get him down easily enough, but my HP does the same unfortunately, lol. When you can parry/block, he isn't too bad.

We'll see more and more of these posts because once you rank a champ, you put them in your deck and you're less likely to ban. I enjoy the challenge and get excited when they drop their Bullseye and I place mine. BG's can give a lot of insight on which champs work well and which ones don't.

Rayven5220

Onslaught is fine. You're not intended to block him so when when you do, you're punished. I struggled against him a lot but now that I can dex his sp1, he isn't too bad. Have to get your intercepts down though. Hulkling is the ideal counter for the guy since you can get your ins easier, but any high damage champ can take him pretty quickly.

I'm still working on Bullseye. I can get him down easily enough, but my HP does the same unfortunately, lol. When you can parry/block, he isn't too bad.

We'll see more and more of these posts because once you rank a champ, you put them in your deck and you're less likely to ban. I enjoy the challenge and get excited when they drop their Bullseye and I place mine. BG's can give a lot of insight on which champs work well and which ones don't.

It never fails to amaze me how many people I see that have onslaught and/or serpent, yet they bane mine still. It's wild in vib 3.

Thanks for banning both of ours so now I don't have to worry about yours at all, on top of the 3 bans I just did, lol

Samanun

Onslaught is fine the way he is

Samanun

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Onslaught isn’t too bad. Got hit in the Sersi fight twice (oops she can definitely do the fight better but I forgot about crushed, same with Fant, I messed up the sp1 dex) but my point still stands

Isn't hulkling metal champ? The fights are fin but I still stand on my point - onslut nd foolseye, both are unfair defenders who needs a little tune down.

Onslaught is easy af to fight now, you need to learn to fight him.

Kingering_King

These posts are the best!!🤣

Giz

Nerf Groot

EdisonLaw

Onslaught: no
Bullseye, yes

XFREEDOMX

Or give this man 20 ban option

JT_Supreme

Or give this man 20 ban option

You might be on to something here