I did it fellas … my first 7-Star R3!

The Man of Sand, the Sand Man.

Triple immunities, tanky, unique play style which feels rewarding, truckload of immunities and double the damage locked behind the sig!

Dude hits hard. Check out that 69k debuff burst with only 44 debuffs. If you can stack 80+ debuffs I estimate it will be 82k+. At high sig it will be 164k+.

In the name of Science!

Comments

Ercarret

Nice! I've been kind of tempted to rank him up as well. While he doesn't seem that flashy at first glance, he has had all kinds of sneaky utility for various types of endgame stuff in the last six months or so.

Unfortunately for Sandman, I've pulled all of my dream science 7*s basically in a row in the last couple of months, so he's been put on the backburner for now.

ItsClobberinTime

Why's everyone spamming lol that's messed up 💀

Rookiie

Nice! I've been kind of tempted to rank him up as well. While he doesn't seem that flashy at first glance, he has had all kinds of sneaky utility for various types of endgame stuff in the last six months or so.

Unfortunately for Sandman, I've pulled all of my dream science 7*s basically in a row in the last couple of months, so he's been put on the backburner for now.

He’s really useful and fun to play. Been running him in RoL for a week and the more I play the more fun I have - that was enough for me to rank him up.
I won’t be able to dupe him for a while, but I am happy to do it and invest sigs in him.

Rookiie

Why's everyone spamming lol that's messed up 💀

💀💀💀

PT_99

Why's everyone spamming lol that's messed up 💀

Because now dust exists with same immunities but as better defender and attacker.

Sandman got floored by Kabam.

Rookiie

Triple immunities, tanky, unique play style which feels rewarding, truckload of immunities and double the damage locked behind the sig!

Truckload of utility*

Rookiie

Why's everyone spamming lol that's messed up 💀
Because now dust exists with same immunities but as better defender and attacker.

Sandman got floored by Kabam.

Not really. Few if anyone have a high ranking Sandman (R3 or R5 ascended), duped and at high sig to see his max output. His damage actually scales up really nicely.

At 7-star Rank 3 sig 200, Sandman gets a whopping +6300 Attack bonus while Unstable. Each Heavy Prof gets +400 attack x8 = 3200 attack. So there is +9500 attack locked behind his sig, which is 50% more than his base attack.

At 7-star R6, the Unstable bonus is a whopping +10755 attack and the Heavy Prof bonus is +672 so x8 = +5300 attack. So imagine, that’s +16000 attack locked behind his sig.

I’m super excited to try it out.

Ghostboytjie

Nice. I have a 6* R5 ascended myself. He was my first or 2nd R5. Waaay before his rework. He is much better for shorter fights now but he used to be really good for longer fights. He still does good. Sad theu removed it. Minimal buildup back then was 90k heavy bursts and it just kept on increasing and increasing if you did sp3 rotation

Cap_Murica

As the owner of a 6R5, sig 200 Ascended Sandman, NICE job!!

captain_rogers

Finally a unconventional rankup, Congrats!

Moosetiptronic

Sig 20 R2 here. I like him, but wish he had a bit more burst damage.

Rookiie

Thanks @Cap_Murica & @captain_rogers !!

@Moosetiptronic he has 6x more Attack and 4x more Heavy Prod at sig 200 so don’t lose hope! At R3 at least.

@Ghostboytjie nice! What is the most burst you got out of him?

BuggyDClown

Not a fan of him as never used him
But I respect your choice
So if you can enlighten me his some uses I might R4 mine as well

Rookiie

Not a fan of him as never used him
But I respect your choice
So if you can enlighten me his some uses I might R4 mine as well

Oh of course!

1) Best Petrify in the game, just spam SP1 and watch Regen champs melt. Each SP1 inflicts 10 debuffs at 8% potency each.

2) He can counter Slow and Evade through his Decelerate debuffs, just spam SP2. Each SP2 inflicts 30 debuffs at 7% potency each.

3) He inflicts Physical Vulnerability debuffs through his SP3, 20 when stable and 50 when unstable.

4) His synergy with Starky and Stealthy helps him counter Miss.

5) He has Root, which is extremely niche. I imagine this will only become more useful with time.

6) He inflicts 10x Suppression debuffs of 5% potency each when Unstable, so you can spam Heavy without (always) pushing opponents to an SP3.

7) And if you do push opponents to an SP3 - he’s extremely tanky. Especially with 20x Resistance Ups, he mitigates a ton of damage. Add 3/3 Inequity for a 36% damage reduction …

8) He has Bleed, Poison and Shock immunity.

9) Check my damage comment above, he’s got a lot of damage but needs dupe and sig 200.

The debuffs fuel his kit, you just need to get to 99 which helps both from a utility perspective as well as a damage perspective.

He has a lot of things in his kit, I just find it so much fun. He’s not the best for AW or BGs, but I’m a questing guy and this is an insane rankup for me.

ThePredator1001

Nice rank up! I’ve been tempted to R3 mine as well. He’s been an absolute content clearing machine, I use him all the time and he handles some very tricky match ups. A recent war usage is everyone is placing Thing on node 37 in war. Sandman shuts him down, stay close to him let him build up the heals, build to a sp2 to shutdown his unstoppable and then spam sp1 and watch the heal reversal absolutely melt him. He’s just got so much utility. But since he’s not a BG nuke people act like he’s bad.

Rookiie

Nice rank up! I’ve been tempted to R3 mine as well. He’s been an absolute content clearing machine, I use him all the time and he handles some very tricky match ups. A recent war usage is everyone is placing Thing on node 37 in war. Sandman shuts him down, stay close to him let him build up the heals, build to a sp2 to shutdown his unstoppable and then spam sp1 and watch the heal reversal absolutely melt him. He’s just got so much utility. But since he’s not a BG nuke people act like he’s bad.

You know how we do here … DEWIT!

But that’s awesome man - thanks for the insight on Thing. This is what I like about Sandman, he shuts down a lot of weird tricky nodes on various classes too, doesn’t have to be Mystic.

And that BGs comment - totally accurate, that’s where all the criticism came from. You know what, I criticize BGs itself, I hate that game mode!

Emilia90

Nice rank up! I’ve been tempted to R3 mine as well. He’s been an absolute content clearing machine, I use him all the time and he handles some very tricky match ups. A recent war usage is everyone is placing Thing on node 37 in war. Sandman shuts him down, stay close to him let him build up the heals, build to a sp2 to shutdown his unstoppable and then spam sp1 and watch the heal reversal absolutely melt him. He’s just got so much utility. But since he’s not a BG nuke people act like he’s bad.

A lot of people who put focus on battlegrounds like me have already cleared all other content in the game so we make a lot of champ decisions based on that content. On top of that, Sandman was released in a year with some of the consistently best champs so he sticks out more despite not being bad. Sandman isn’t my first pick even outside of battlegrounds but he’s safe with a lot of utility so I see why people would like him

Congrats OP!

Rookiie

Nice rank up! I’ve been tempted to R3 mine as well. He’s been an absolute content clearing machine, I use him all the time and he handles some very tricky match ups. A recent war usage is everyone is placing Thing on node 37 in war. Sandman shuts him down, stay close to him let him build up the heals, build to a sp2 to shutdown his unstoppable and then spam sp1 and watch the heal reversal absolutely melt him. He’s just got so much utility. But since he’s not a BG nuke people act like he’s bad.
A lot of people who put focus on battlegrounds like me have already cleared all other content in the game so we make a lot of champ decisions based on that content. On top of that, Sandman was released in a year with some of the consistently best champs so he sticks out more despite not being bad. Sandman isn’t my first pick even outside of battlegrounds but he’s safe with a lot of utility so I see why people would like him

Congrats OP!

Thanks @Emilia90 ! I think his value will develop over time, just like Torch’s did. The numbers are really interesting.

Emilia90

Nice rank up! I’ve been tempted to R3 mine as well. He’s been an absolute content clearing machine, I use him all the time and he handles some very tricky match ups. A recent war usage is everyone is placing Thing on node 37 in war. Sandman shuts him down, stay close to him let him build up the heals, build to a sp2 to shutdown his unstoppable and then spam sp1 and watch the heal reversal absolutely melt him. He’s just got so much utility. But since he’s not a BG nuke people act like he’s bad.
A lot of people who put focus on battlegrounds like me have already cleared all other content in the game so we make a lot of champ decisions based on that content. On top of that, Sandman was released in a year with some of the consistently best champs so he sticks out more despite not being bad. Sandman isn’t my first pick even outside of battlegrounds but he’s safe with a lot of utility so I see why people would like him

Congrats OP!

Thanks @Emilia90 ! I think his value will develop over time, just like Torch’s did. The numbers are really interesting.

I really hope it does! I think a lot of people are also disappointed after seeing the first buff he got which was scrapped. Legitimately could’ve seen him rise to a top 5 science if they pushed that version out, but I hope this version’s stock goes up in the future

Ghostboytjie

Thanks @Cap_Murica & @captain_rogers !!

@Moosetiptronic he has 6x more Attack and 4x more Heavy Prod at sig 200 so don’t lose hope! At R3 at least.

@Ghostboytjie nice! What is the most burst you got out of him?

@Rookiie back then? Ive gotten a 180k burst once.

But now is about 50-70k on buildup. But atleast its consistanly. I dont use him much anymore though. But when I do, I remember why I took him up. I was really hoping for a 7* when he was released from banquet.

Rookiie

Nice rank up! I’ve been tempted to R3 mine as well. He’s been an absolute content clearing machine, I use him all the time and he handles some very tricky match ups. A recent war usage is everyone is placing Thing on node 37 in war. Sandman shuts him down, stay close to him let him build up the heals, build to a sp2 to shutdown his unstoppable and then spam sp1 and watch the heal reversal absolutely melt him. He’s just got so much utility. But since he’s not a BG nuke people act like he’s bad.
A lot of people who put focus on battlegrounds like me have already cleared all other content in the game so we make a lot of champ decisions based on that content. On top of that, Sandman was released in a year with some of the consistently best champs so he sticks out more despite not being bad. Sandman isn’t my first pick even outside of battlegrounds but he’s safe with a lot of utility so I see why people would like him

Congrats OP!

Thanks @Emilia90 ! I think his value will develop over time, just like Torch’s did. The numbers are really interesting.
I really hope it does! I think a lot of people are also disappointed after seeing the first buff he got which was scrapped. Legitimately could’ve seen him rise to a top 5 science if they pushed that version out, but I hope this version’s stock goes up in the future

I think it will. I want to believe that it’s not a nerf as much as it is a drawn out process to get the most out of him. I hope that Kabam tested him at 7-star R6 and decided that this was the best way to go.

I’ll try to run the numbers when I have time on a 6* R5, R5 ascended and 7 R3 unduped, at sig 200 and at R6 sig 200.

Or

Rookiie

Thanks @Cap_Murica & @captain_rogers !!

@Moosetiptronic he has 6x more Attack and 4x more Heavy Prod at sig 200 so don’t lose hope! At R3 at least.

@Ghostboytjie nice! What is the most burst you got out of him?
@Rookiie back then? Ive gotten a 180k burst once.

But now is about 50-70k on buildup. But atleast its consistanly. I dont use him much anymore though. But when I do, I remember why I took him up. I was really hoping for a 7* when he was released from banquet.

Wow, that’s nice!

ThePredator1001

Nice rank up! I’ve been tempted to R3 mine as well. He’s been an absolute content clearing machine, I use him all the time and he handles some very tricky match ups. A recent war usage is everyone is placing Thing on node 37 in war. Sandman shuts him down, stay close to him let him build up the heals, build to a sp2 to shutdown his unstoppable and then spam sp1 and watch the heal reversal absolutely melt him. He’s just got so much utility. But since he’s not a BG nuke people act like he’s bad.
A lot of people who put focus on battlegrounds like me have already cleared all other content in the game so we make a lot of champ decisions based on that content. On top of that, Sandman was released in a year with some of the consistently best champs so he sticks out more despite not being bad. Sandman isn’t my first pick even outside of battlegrounds but he’s safe with a lot of utility so I see why people would like him

Congrats OP!

Yeah It depends on the person, a lot of people focus on Bg and in the past I focused all my rank ups on Bg as well. I’ve also cleared all the content but they are always adding content, for example the winter of woe Abs man was an easy solo with Sandman. And for anyone who plays war competitively, he can be an mvp there because his utility and immunities let him take so many different fights.

Not that they would implement the change but I like the current trend they are doing lately with spider punk and serpent where in BG they start partially ramped. If they added that to sandman giving him half his heavy proficiency charges at the start of BG matches, I think we’d see his popularity rise significantly.

ItsClobberinTime

Why's everyone spamming lol that's messed up 💀
Because now dust exists with same immunities but as better defender and attacker.

Sandman got floored by Kabam.

Yeah but I'd much rather see a rare unique r3 than the same meta r3s again and again.

peixemacaco

Almost an 8 stars (7*R4) when it be real...

Congrats

Rookiie

Yo this post took my LOL count to 8.8k thanks guys