Spring of Sorrow Onslaught
Smeagz23
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This fight was so terrible it is unreal. First, why did we need to not be able to crit? Just to make a 1.34 mil health pool of one of the hardest defenders in the game seem like a 4 mil health pool? Then, the even worse part, was a node and defender combination that requires intercepting and a defender that literally only dashes back. How do you intercept a defender that only dashes back or blocks? You can’t. And you wonder why people say you don’t test things. Who tested this and thought this was a good defender design? This was absolutely miserable. You should have been put aggression nodes on all fights because of the stupid passive ai but this one ABSOLUTELY needed one. And of all fights to pick to add the deathless king groot to, you choose this one? I know i’m just waisting my breath and usually i know better but this just really grinds my gears. I remember when i liked this kind of content with summer and eternity of pain but you guys sure know how to suck the fun out of everything.
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This is actually a cleverly designed fight. Much like the Dani fight, kabam is basically saying “hey, dex this special for a few minutes and you win.” The nodes all find ways to mitigate onslaughts annoying features. Neuroshock? How about energy resistance when dexing specials. Maybe even top some of that lost health with willpower healing from the power sting and the crush debuff that pops up more frequently since the node is manipulating our combo meter. Heck, kabam even gifted us Herc as one of the objectives.
It’s not easy, but manageable. I’m significantly less intimidated by onslaught than I was 12 hours ago.
Learn to dex his sp1, pretty easy…
Almost every other fight in WoW or SoS the fight is good once you get into the groove. I never found a groove in this one and I felt like I was on edge about what I could/could not do that it just wasn’t enjoyable. Not trying to whine or complain, just saying it wasn’t fun.
(I have an Ascended Havok so haven't bothered to learn how to fight him yet)
No one would say absman specials are hard to dex compared to onslaught and brute forcing onslaught for all but the herc objective is almost impossible without being very, very expensive.
A lot of players solo’ed this fight with Herc, some used a revive or 2…expensive is not the word you’re looking for…
I solo’ed Absman with Void, but that was a looooong fight and only 1 point…I couldn’t do it with other champs. Onslaught got plenty good options.
We definitely get a very polar feeling and response from players about these fights, and to be honest everyone is right in their own way, their struggles or lack of, it is all based on their own experience with the fights. I have my own thoughts about Abs Man and Onslaught fights (which is not the point here).
What is interesting is even though most would agreed that Abs Man was overtune (before the rework), we did see a lot of solo (even as soon as the content drop), I remember watching KarateMike, KT1 and later MSD showing solos.
However for this Onslaught fight, I watch KarateMike (since I think that was there only one on when the content drop), and I haven't never seen KarateMike was that frustrated/"struggled" with the fight, the closed I seen was when he did CCP Animal Instincts, I think the Mojo fight (and that was only slight). I don't believe there were any solos, and he didn't even do the DKG challenge on stream.
When I said this I mean relatively to how KarateMike are (usually pretty chill and laugh it of). All of what I said is not a reflection of KarateMike but of the fight itself. I think I even hear he mentioned MSD was also thrown by the AI too, and KT1 have really upload anything yet.
Sure is interesting 🤔
Please enlighten all on the plenty good options for onslaught if dexing sp1 is not required.
Marvel Contest of Intercepting with this AI sucks. It’s not challenging… it’s a Russian roulette app.
I will take the 2 points Herc gave me and forget it.
It's like in books or movies where a city is surrounded or something by enemies and someone says "this city is all but lost"
Took around 18 revives across 3 fights but nowhere near as bad as I originally thought it was going to be. Needs a lot of practice but it can be done.
I used Shang-Chi (6*r5A), Photon (6*r5A), and 7*r2 KGroot Deathless.
Hope this helps.
Oh hulk was only one objective.
Sandman, it was either solo or restart.
Same with robots.
What are you on about here?
Just go to the SOS Onslaught thread, there you will see that players have Onslaught solos with CAIW, Void, Shang-Chi, Falcon and Ant-Man...Ant-Man (!!!) Ant-Man ‼️‼️‼️
All difficult content essentially limits your damage in some fashion, whether it be by protection nodes or just relatively by making the health pools astronomical.
Why is Absorbing Man fight more unfair than Onslaught? Because Onslaught can be solo'd by Iron Patriot, while Absorbing Man could not.
Onslaught can theoretically be beaten by any champion that doesn't place a 'Shock, Incinerate, Plasma, or Coldsnap' (so that means > 90% of champions are viable). There is nothing intrinsically in the fight that prevents any champion from solo'ing Onslaught.
AbsMan couldn't be solo'd without either (1) Champion that can control the regen, (2) Champion that can outdamage the regen. All other champions had to rely on Method (3) 'Quit fight before regen kicks in' approach, which is definitively not a solo. So the number of viable champions is limited, and there were intrinsic nodes/abilities in the fight that prevent any champion from beating Onslaught without relying on a mandatory quit-revive approach.
Tl;dr: With enough practice, any champion that avoids energy debuffs can beat Onslaught through skill while non-ideal champions can't solo Absorbing Man (the original one at least)