Did they try to make the Raid with MODOK a new spring of sorrow on an absurd level?

I don't know what the idea was here, but if it was to make us suffer, they nailed it.

I'm tasked with taking down MODOK without him being stunned, okay! But how come special attacks don't count?

You have to give him heavy attack, then he comes and hits you in the face and kills your hero with just one combo.

They said to use the striker, but tell me how to do it when you don't have the striker yet and you're still trying to build damage and this mission comes 4 times in a row?

In my best fights and with luck the maximum I managed to take was around 8%, in my alliance almost no one is to throw damage from him.

Because kabam decided to take something that was good to do and turn it into the Spring of Horror and make you cry with anger. Thank you, you did it...

Comments

Darkraw346

Good thing I've picked Aegon, his Unstoppable on heavy came through

Lokx

Not sure what’s going on with your game but knocking him down with specials worked fine for me.

Vegeta9001

Not sure what’s going on with your game but knocking him down with specials worked fine for me.

You must have a special update installed because no-one else is getting completed missions with specials.

PT_99

I'm just bummed about this, "Modok's autoblock triggers, our hero is still in mid animation but Modok somehow counterattacks? 5 hit? Special?"

Wtf, how can he autoblock and counterattack so fast

DarkNightRise

I'm just bummed about this, "Modok's autoblock triggers, our hero is still in mid animation but Modok somehow counterattacks? 5 hit? Special?"

Wtf, how can he autoblock and counterattack so fast

Because as I mentioned many times, the AI is capable to SKIP THE FRAME RATE, which give them advantage in every part of the game

NüΚΞ

Fight is just terrible for most champs. Moleman would probably be op. He can block unblockable and get the knockdown with heavy. Whiff and hit into block would have been easy. I debated bringing him but went with Adam warlock. It’s just terrible.

Biggest problem is the repeat no damage prompts. Whiff attack and hit into block constantly popping up and the bug where only heavies count as knockdown. Setting most alliances up for a terrible grind to get 100%.

Raids would have been fine if they didn’t use the grandmaster style for modok and created some new fun way to beat him while preserving difficulty. I hope Kabam reads these and realizes that of all the game modes raids has a steep cost to all players joining.

Most alliances aren’t exploring AQ, because most players don’t like the mode (don’t blame them it’s repetitive, lengthy and boring and timeline for 100% completion of aq is pretty tight.) most of us are giving up on incursion crystals to pay for raids or giving up on loyalty shop to pay for raids.

I like this game mode because it’s fun to see massive yellow numbers. Difficulty to me is on par to low RNG for high prizes. Is a few 7* shards, 50% t6cc, and final prize worth the price of entry? Especially given the new daily quest they proposed during their most recent livestream? Absolutely not.

It’s a shame because I find raids 100% more enjoyable that AQ (old raids design). I could accept the RNG when it was a chill mode where you could blast big numbers and have some fun. I get the need to tie this event into sagas. The node selections in combination of the grandmaster type fight just looked obviously flawed to many of us on first glance. I can’t see how this was tested at all, unless they let MSD and Karate Mike give it the testing 😂.

All being said I am confident that the Kabam folks will make this right as I am sure they can see most enjoy this aspect of the game and they will want to have continued success.

Last thought. Kabam you just promoted a new daily super event where the rewards are a choice of three items, I believe that raids could be similar to this. Personally I rather have consistency in rewards for the high cost than a small chance to get a full titan. Cost in to cost out. I know the daily event will be successful you should see how that goes and look into replicating in raids. And of course redesign modok fight. 😘

JoaoAlves17

Not sure what’s going on with your game but knocking him down with specials worked fine for me.

Then it's bugged! For me, it didn't count once. It only counted when I launched a heavy attack.

The truth is that this appears to be bugged.

That's why there are difficulties, imagine having to make a heavy attack with your guard open.

JoaoAlves17

I'm just bummed about this, "Modok's autoblock triggers, our hero is still in mid animation but Modok somehow counterattacks? 5 hit? Special?"

Wtf, how can he autoblock and counterattack so fast

This is happening in other parts of the game as well. It appears that the AI is breaking the defenders' block. It's so fast that it seems like she counterattacks in the middle of our combo.

But with MODOK's mechanics, it's worse in this fight. His damage on defense is very high. And if a combo hits you, your life is over.

The truth is that this fight is a real horror.

JoaoAlves17

Good thing I've picked Aegon, his Unstoppable on heavy came through

The problem is that this shouldn't be a fight where only one or two heroes manage to do well.

captain_rogers

Good thing I've picked Aegon, his Unstoppable on heavy came through

Good luck with Aegon for completing the hit on block mission lol

Terminatrix

I'm just bummed about this, "Modok's autoblock triggers, our hero is still in mid animation but Modok somehow counterattacks? 5 hit? Special?"

Wtf, how can he autoblock and counterattack so fast
This is happening in other parts of the game as well. It appears that the AI is breaking the defenders' block. It's so fast that it seems like she counterattacks in the middle of our combo.

But with MODOK's mechanics, it's worse in this fight. His damage on defense is very high. And if a combo hits you, your life is over.

The truth is that this fight is a real horror.

The defender is hitting straight through a block with basic attacks. Had this happen quite a few times. There were no debuffs, or anything in the defenders abilities to indicate this would happen.

Pandingo

It was for SURE an overcorrection. They felt raids were too easy so they cranked it up by 20. I wasn't able to do 1% against modok with 14 revives with storm. He barely let's you do the prompts without beating you down. Absolutely stupid. Not at all fun. The other 3 were ok. Storm did just ok against all the autoblocks

Vegeta9001

It was for SURE an overcorrection. They felt raids were too easy so they cranked it up by 20. I wasn't able to do 1% against modok with 14 revives with storm. He barely let's you do the prompts without beating you down. Absolutely stupid. Not at all fun. The other 3 were ok. Storm did just ok against all the autoblocks

I got one fight where I didn't get hit block prompt, completed the missions once and smashed him for 10%. Just the impossible 999 Aegon issue of hitting block that cost me.

Sachhyam257

I'm tasked with taking down MODOK without him being stunned, okay! But how come special attacks don't count?

THIS. Waiting for the striker to charge up to complete one mission is just plain stupid, especially when you're only given like 3 mins per fight. It's not only delaying completion of one mission, it's delaying everything after it too.

I'm guessing it's a bug where specials should be counted, but they aren't for reasons unknown.

^ This is me giving kabam the benefit of the doubt, because surely this wasn't intentional. Surely they tested the fight properly before rolling it out...

Sachhyam257

Just got 4 whiffs in a row. Brother I'm spending like 30 seconds of the fight trying NOT to fight him. Someone make it make sense pls.

Vegeta9001

Good thing I've picked Aegon, his Unstoppable on heavy came through

Aegon is great for this fight, as long as you never banked 999 combo prior. If you did you can't do it,it's not possible.

JoaoAlves17

I saw a video of a player parrying and taking down at heavyweight, and the mission of taking down without stunning still counted. Even knocking down the stunned MODOK.

Nojokejaym

Titania crushes him, but yah you don’t get the knockdown when using specials.

LexSavi

I saw this tip posted elsewhere. Wish I could remember by who so I can give credit.

If you use a champ with a two hit heavy, you can parry, charge your heavy and watch the stun timer, then release just before it expires. The first hit will hit while he’s stunned, but the second hit (which knocks him down) hits after the stun expired.

This worked every time for me using Hulkling.

Bugmat78

Not sure what’s going on with your game but knocking him down with specials worked fine for me.
Then it's bugged! For me, it didn't count once. It only counted when I launched a heavy attack.

The truth is that this appears to be bugged.

That's why there are difficulties, imagine having to make a heavy attack with your guard open.

It didn't work for me either until today - maybe a hotfix was pushed (speculating) but using specials wasn't completing prompts the first few days.

It's not a good fight.

Midnightfox

Modok is the only fight that needs tuned down. Rest were ok

ItsClobberinTime

I'm gonna get spammed hard for this one but a month ago everyone was complaining about the bosses being too easy and the whole map being explored in two days... Now when it's actually hard nobody likes it? Lmao not saying op is wrong but this is kinda funny 💀

captain_rogers

I'm gonna get spammed hard for this one but a month ago everyone was complaining about the bosses being too easy and the whole map being explored in two days... Now when it's actually hard nobody likes it? Lmao not saying op is wrong but this is kinda funny 💀

Be careful of what you ask for

ItsClobberinTime

I'm gonna get spammed hard for this one but a month ago everyone was complaining about the bosses being too easy and the whole map being explored in two days... Now when it's actually hard nobody likes it? Lmao not saying op is wrong but this is kinda funny 💀
Be careful of what you ask for

Yeah, they did ask for it 😂

Nightheart

I'm gonna get spammed hard for this one but a month ago everyone was complaining about the bosses being too easy and the whole map being explored in two days... Now when it's actually hard nobody likes it? Lmao not saying op is wrong but this is kinda funny 💀

If they said that it was too easy they were out of their minds it would be too easy if there was no 12% cap and instant death. The first 3 bosses were fine but Modok is really annoying

SenorBattleship

Fight is just terrible for most champs. Moleman would probably be op. He can block unblockable and get the knockdown with heavy.

Oh you would think, but my 7R2 Mole Man is basically useless against him because nobody in the assault class is able to build charges. I've been running with 8/15 charges max because they just can't complete the challenges

ItsClobberinTime

I'm gonna get spammed hard for this one but a month ago everyone was complaining about the bosses being too easy and the whole map being explored in two days... Now when it's actually hard nobody likes it? Lmao not saying op is wrong but this is kinda funny 💀
If they said that it was too easy they were out of their minds it would be too easy if there was no 12% cap and instant death. The first 3 bosses were fine but Modok is really annoying

Not these ones, the previous minis and boss. I don't think anyone can really argue against that, those were so easy people were finishing the whole map in literally two days.

LordSmasher

Nobody cared they were too easy before.
* You spend resources to play
* Its motivation to complete the tedium that is AQ

Raids were fun and interesting. Modok ruined it (and the great pool of useless champs doesn't help either)

Noobmaster555

I am definitely done with raid until they change something on the last boss. It's not worth it.

pingu_tucnacek

in our aliance, the main reasson to spend extra resources to finish the raid in two days was to get 5 days off, not needing to play boring AQ. this modok has just taken away that. so there is no advantage to playing raid instead of normal AQ maps.

also the entry cost his horrible compared to my reward luck. basicaly I get much better rewards from my daily crystals all the time. so that said, this was the last raid I have played. I do not care for this kind of repetive overly dificult content. Let the youtubers have fun trying to beat this overly dificult stuff the devs try to create in hopes nobody can realy beat it.

This is not the kind of challenge I play for fun. I would rather not play at all (oh, and yes I mostly do that challenging stuff like nekro or sos)