Cloak and Dagger (as separate characters): Concept Ability Kit
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CLOAK
Class: Science
Abilities
Passive
Cloak’s Body is half ethereal. All attacks have a 20% chance to Miss.
The Darkforce Dimension grants Cloak immense power. Under 2 bars of power, he passively fills a bar every 7 seconds.
Advanced regenerative abilities double the original regeneration abilities of Cloak, including through Willpower Mastery. He is not affected by the Recoil Mastery, but takes damage from Double Edge and Poison.
After a damaging debuff ends on Cloak, regenerate upto 33% of damage taken by that damaging debuff. Regeneration stack-able.
Darkforce meter
Cloak starts the fight with 100 charges in his Darkforce meter. Each hit gains 1 charge. Charges fall off when Cloak is away from his opponent. Dashing in to the opponent gains charges depending on the distance from which dashed. If he is knocked down, he loses 20 charges.
Above 150 charges, Cloak gains a Dark Aura around him. Proximity to the attacker inflicts 1 indefinite Passive Degeneration per second, that falls off one at a time when Cloak moves away from the opponent.
Above 200 charges, Cloak enters Darkforce Overload. He himself starts to Degenerate, removing 0.4% of his current health every 3 seconds, but increasing attack rating by %, and proximity to the attacker steals <> health every <> seconds.
(For example, at 224 charges, his attack rating is increased by 24%)
Basic hits
All basic hits inflict a Rupture debuff for 10 seconds.
Heavy Attack
Charging a heavy attack gains Darkforce charges scaling with time charged.
(Hard to pinpoint a number)
Delirium
Above 100 Darkforce Charges, all of Cloak’s Special Attacks inflict Delirium on the opponent.
Special Attack 1:
When special attack 1 ends, Cloak enters Krakoan Might for 20 seconds. During this mode, his DNA overloads and consumes Darkforce charges rapidly. Hitting the opponent inflicts Degeneration for 10 seconds, he gains Buff Immunity and Stun Immunity.
Special Attack 2:
When special attack 2 starts, Cloak enters Negative Dimension for 20 seconds. During Negative Dimension, Cloak is Shrouded and is hence Untouchable. Each hit consumes up-to 3 Rupture debuffs on the opponent, dealing burst damage for each Rupture removed. The last hit consumes all remaining Rupture and replaces them with Degenerations of 1.5x the potency for 8 seconds. Gains an indefinite Passive Prowess increasing damage by all special attacks by +35%.
Special Attack 3
Dagger helps her friend Cloak with her Lightforce Powers. All Darkforce charges are consumed and Cloak is regenerated by Dagger’s Life Steal.
The first 3 times this special attack activates, Cloak gains Dark Horse of Negative for 20 seconds. The potency of all Degenerations is increased by +200% and inflict 50 Physical Vulnerability Debuffs of 1 second each, that fall off one by one.
Signature Ability
Darkforce Overload Boost: When Cloak enters Darkforce Overload, his Attack Rating increases by an additional X% for every 10 Darkforce charges above 200. Additionally, his health steal from proximity to the opponent is increased by X%. He loses X% health less during Darkforce Overload.
Cloak becomes immune to Nullify effects.
The Darkforce meter charges fall off at a slower rate when Cloak is away from his opponent, allowing him to maintain his Darkforce state longer. The rate of charge gain from dashing in is increased by X%.
DAGGER
Class: Science (although I've built her like a Mutant)
Abilities
Passive
Dagger’s first light, second light, fourth light heavy and some hits of special attacks are dagger throws and are hence, non-contact and energy. All dagger hits inflict Bleed for 7 seconds unless specified otherwise.
Tandy’s Bowen Lifeforce powers help her heal and shrug off damaging debuffs. The duration of all damaging debuffs are decreased by 70%. When a damage over time Debuff or Passive expires on Tandy, she gains a Regeneration Buff, allowing her to heal over 10 seconds. As a defender, if the attacker lands an energy attack, she gains a non-stacking Regeneration Buff. The potency is increased by +7.5% each time it activates or refreshes.
All of Dagger’s damaging debuffs fall off one at a time, and their duration is refreshed when landing a heavy attack.
Dodging
If Dagger activates the Dexterity mastery by dodging an attack, she gains a Prowess Buff of +10% potency 10 seconds. (Does not apply if Precision effect by Dexterity is already active) If she has a relic equipped, she gains 2 Prowess Buffs.
Phasing
If Phase is not active, ending a combo with a medium attack causes Dagger to enter Phase. Striking a medium attack or Parrying the opponent removes Phase. Light-intercepting the opponent during Phase inflicts a Vulnerability Passive for 8 seconds.
All hits except blocked hits or hits landed while Dagger is charging a heavy attack Miss.
Each hit by Dagger during Phase deals a %age of the attack as a burst of energy, and Tandy regenerates <%> of the energy damage.
If Phase ends, or if a hit lands on Dagger while Phase is active, it goes on cooldown for 25 seconds.
Heavy Attack
Dagger’s heavy attack can be charged for up to 1.8 seconds. Charging this heavy during Perfect Stun grants 12% of a bar of power for every 0.2 seconds charged.
If Perfect Stun is not active, inflict an Infuriate debuff for 6 seconds.
(Works for about 3 intercepts)
Special Attack 1 (Dagger hit, Phase hand through opponent, Uppercut, 3 knife throws):
The second hit of this special attack Life Steals 0.5% of the opponent’s health (max. 2500). Each dagger hit inflicts Bleed, dealing <> damage.
Special Attack 2
Holding block during the duration of this attack slows down time. Swiping right on the screen just before a dagger throw activates Perfect Release. All hits by Perfect Release are Guaranteed Critical and deal +5% damage as Life Steal. Dagger is regenerated for 100% of additional damage. If the opponent is knocked down by a Perfect Release, the opponent is inflicted with a Perfect Stun for 3 seconds. This acts as a normal Stun debuff, but the opponent’s regeneration rate is reduced by -150% and buff duration is reduced by 5 seconds for the duration of this Stun.
Special Attack 3
Inflict a Crush Passive for 10 seconds.
Gain a high-damaging Fury buff for 15 seconds. This Fury is passive if the special attack is launched when Phase is active.
Signature Ability: Darkforce Inversion
Dagger’s Lightforce is reversed as she enters the Darkforce. At the start of each fight, she gains <1-5> (rounded down) Darkforce Charges. Every time Dagger activates a special attack, the opponent is inflicted with Disillusioned. While Disillusioned is active, the opponent is Reverse Controlled, and takes <> damage over time, scaling with sigs and base attack.
Rotation
• The basal idea was to use her like Absorbing Man to keep Phase up. MM to get Phase. To keep Phase up, light-intercept. For passive opponent, block and bait heavy, then punish heavy to inflict Infuriate.
• Build to 2.5 bars of power.
• Launch sp2
• Charge heavy during Perfect Stun
• Launch sp2 again
• Rinse and repeat
To those who asked for Cloak and Dagger as the same character: DON'T WORRY. I'm releasing that soon.
Once again, I shall repeat, ALL SUGGESTIONS ARE WELCOME. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DEROGATORY REMARKS. THIS IS THE USE OF MY BRAIN AND MY BRAIN ONLY. EVERY IDEA IS UNIQUE.
PS. The only reason I post in General "Discussion" is so that the entire community can actually "discuss" these matters.
Class: Science
Abilities
Passive
Cloak’s Body is half ethereal. All attacks have a 20% chance to Miss.
The Darkforce Dimension grants Cloak immense power. Under 2 bars of power, he passively fills a bar every 7 seconds.
Advanced regenerative abilities double the original regeneration abilities of Cloak, including through Willpower Mastery. He is not affected by the Recoil Mastery, but takes damage from Double Edge and Poison.
After a damaging debuff ends on Cloak, regenerate upto 33% of damage taken by that damaging debuff. Regeneration stack-able.
Darkforce meter
Cloak starts the fight with 100 charges in his Darkforce meter. Each hit gains 1 charge. Charges fall off when Cloak is away from his opponent. Dashing in to the opponent gains charges depending on the distance from which dashed. If he is knocked down, he loses 20 charges.
Above 150 charges, Cloak gains a Dark Aura around him. Proximity to the attacker inflicts 1 indefinite Passive Degeneration per second, that falls off one at a time when Cloak moves away from the opponent.
Above 200 charges, Cloak enters Darkforce Overload. He himself starts to Degenerate, removing 0.4% of his current health every 3 seconds, but increasing attack rating by %, and proximity to the attacker steals <> health every <> seconds.
(For example, at 224 charges, his attack rating is increased by 24%)
Basic hits
All basic hits inflict a Rupture debuff for 10 seconds.
Heavy Attack
Charging a heavy attack gains Darkforce charges scaling with time charged.
(Hard to pinpoint a number)
Delirium
Above 100 Darkforce Charges, all of Cloak’s Special Attacks inflict Delirium on the opponent.
Special Attack 1:
When special attack 1 ends, Cloak enters Krakoan Might for 20 seconds. During this mode, his DNA overloads and consumes Darkforce charges rapidly. Hitting the opponent inflicts Degeneration for 10 seconds, he gains Buff Immunity and Stun Immunity.
Special Attack 2:
When special attack 2 starts, Cloak enters Negative Dimension for 20 seconds. During Negative Dimension, Cloak is Shrouded and is hence Untouchable. Each hit consumes up-to 3 Rupture debuffs on the opponent, dealing burst damage for each Rupture removed. The last hit consumes all remaining Rupture and replaces them with Degenerations of 1.5x the potency for 8 seconds. Gains an indefinite Passive Prowess increasing damage by all special attacks by +35%.
Special Attack 3
Dagger helps her friend Cloak with her Lightforce Powers. All Darkforce charges are consumed and Cloak is regenerated by Dagger’s Life Steal.
The first 3 times this special attack activates, Cloak gains Dark Horse of Negative for 20 seconds. The potency of all Degenerations is increased by +200% and inflict 50 Physical Vulnerability Debuffs of 1 second each, that fall off one by one.
Signature Ability
Darkforce Overload Boost: When Cloak enters Darkforce Overload, his Attack Rating increases by an additional X% for every 10 Darkforce charges above 200. Additionally, his health steal from proximity to the opponent is increased by X%. He loses X% health less during Darkforce Overload.
Cloak becomes immune to Nullify effects.
The Darkforce meter charges fall off at a slower rate when Cloak is away from his opponent, allowing him to maintain his Darkforce state longer. The rate of charge gain from dashing in is increased by X%.
DAGGER
Class: Science (although I've built her like a Mutant)
Abilities
Passive
Dagger’s first light, second light, fourth light heavy and some hits of special attacks are dagger throws and are hence, non-contact and energy. All dagger hits inflict Bleed for 7 seconds unless specified otherwise.
Tandy’s Bowen Lifeforce powers help her heal and shrug off damaging debuffs. The duration of all damaging debuffs are decreased by 70%. When a damage over time Debuff or Passive expires on Tandy, she gains a Regeneration Buff, allowing her to heal over 10 seconds. As a defender, if the attacker lands an energy attack, she gains a non-stacking Regeneration Buff. The potency is increased by +7.5% each time it activates or refreshes.
All of Dagger’s damaging debuffs fall off one at a time, and their duration is refreshed when landing a heavy attack.
Dodging
If Dagger activates the Dexterity mastery by dodging an attack, she gains a Prowess Buff of +10% potency 10 seconds. (Does not apply if Precision effect by Dexterity is already active) If she has a relic equipped, she gains 2 Prowess Buffs.
Phasing
If Phase is not active, ending a combo with a medium attack causes Dagger to enter Phase. Striking a medium attack or Parrying the opponent removes Phase. Light-intercepting the opponent during Phase inflicts a Vulnerability Passive for 8 seconds.
All hits except blocked hits or hits landed while Dagger is charging a heavy attack Miss.
Each hit by Dagger during Phase deals a %age of the attack as a burst of energy, and Tandy regenerates <%> of the energy damage.
If Phase ends, or if a hit lands on Dagger while Phase is active, it goes on cooldown for 25 seconds.
Heavy Attack
Dagger’s heavy attack can be charged for up to 1.8 seconds. Charging this heavy during Perfect Stun grants 12% of a bar of power for every 0.2 seconds charged.
If Perfect Stun is not active, inflict an Infuriate debuff for 6 seconds.
(Works for about 3 intercepts)
Special Attack 1 (Dagger hit, Phase hand through opponent, Uppercut, 3 knife throws):
The second hit of this special attack Life Steals 0.5% of the opponent’s health (max. 2500). Each dagger hit inflicts Bleed, dealing <> damage.
Special Attack 2
Holding block during the duration of this attack slows down time. Swiping right on the screen just before a dagger throw activates Perfect Release. All hits by Perfect Release are Guaranteed Critical and deal +5% damage as Life Steal. Dagger is regenerated for 100% of additional damage. If the opponent is knocked down by a Perfect Release, the opponent is inflicted with a Perfect Stun for 3 seconds. This acts as a normal Stun debuff, but the opponent’s regeneration rate is reduced by -150% and buff duration is reduced by 5 seconds for the duration of this Stun.
Special Attack 3
Inflict a Crush Passive for 10 seconds.
Gain a high-damaging Fury buff for 15 seconds. This Fury is passive if the special attack is launched when Phase is active.
Signature Ability: Darkforce Inversion
Dagger’s Lightforce is reversed as she enters the Darkforce. At the start of each fight, she gains <1-5> (rounded down) Darkforce Charges. Every time Dagger activates a special attack, the opponent is inflicted with Disillusioned. While Disillusioned is active, the opponent is Reverse Controlled, and takes <> damage over time, scaling with sigs and base attack.
Rotation
• The basal idea was to use her like Absorbing Man to keep Phase up. MM to get Phase. To keep Phase up, light-intercept. For passive opponent, block and bait heavy, then punish heavy to inflict Infuriate.
• Build to 2.5 bars of power.
• Launch sp2
• Charge heavy during Perfect Stun
• Launch sp2 again
• Rinse and repeat
To those who asked for Cloak and Dagger as the same character: DON'T WORRY. I'm releasing that soon.
Once again, I shall repeat, ALL SUGGESTIONS ARE WELCOME. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DEROGATORY REMARKS. THIS IS THE USE OF MY BRAIN AND MY BRAIN ONLY. EVERY IDEA IS UNIQUE.
PS. The only reason I post in General "Discussion" is so that the entire community can actually "discuss" these matters.
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I don't think giving him a 20% chance to miss attacks all the time is really necessary, since even at a low chance it's not even worth risking attacking in if you don't have a miss counter and doesn't really add anything to the fight. I would also say that in general it's just way overtuned and seems to be more focused around making it as hard of a defender as possible. Increasing his regen rate by 100% at the start of the fight is pretty nuts even with his self damaging abilities, and the biggest issue with the kit is the 20 seconds of untouchable on the sp2. That's way too strong. That in conjunction with getting 2 bars of power every 14 seconds without even having a reduced combat power rate means that he's essentially going to be phasing for the entire match and before you know it your back is against the wall and you can't get away from him so his degen just destroys you while he just keeps stealing your health.
His sp2 also grants an indefinite 35% prowess which doesn't seem to have a stack limit, which just sky rockets his damage with no skill required since even he gets hit with dot he heals 66% of the damage taken from it at the end of the debuff, whilst also healing a lot from just having the debuff on him if he's got willpower. Then take into account that in war and bgs he's gonna likely benefit from willpower and inequity he's gonna just gonna be impossible to kill with even 1 or 2 nodes that would make him genuinely unkillable.
His sp3 and sig are both way too much also. The last thing he needs his more damage and he gains 3 separate damage increases from his sp3 and sig on top of also gaining even more healing and dark force charges. There's also the inclusion of him becoming nullify immune despite having buff immunity as a part of his kit and no personal buffs which just feels like adding things for the sake of adding them.
Cloak is similar, her kit is solid as an idea but still need another pass. Unless I'm reading the kit wrong, she can basically phase indefinitely as long as you don't use mediums or parry while still being able to attack? That on top of having a lot of life steal and reverse controls which just feels like it's there to be there.
They could both definitely work but there's just way too much in both kits that I think is either too strong or just unnecessary
Above 200 charges he degens himself for 0.4%/3s, which is 0.13%/s. This is a trivial degen amount. For reference, the design doubles base regen rate, which means when Willpower ordinarily heals 0.7%/sec per unique debuff, Cloak will now be healing 1.4%/s. We kinda know this is broken, because of the Willpower changes of long ago, but let's calculate. With Liquid Courage we're taking 0.6%/sec. Poison reduces regen by 30%, so our Willpower heal from LC drops from 1.4%/sec to 0.98%/s. We're already regen positive with LC: we're healing 0.38%/s, and taking 0.13% from Darkforce degen. That's net 0.25%/sec positive health recovery.
If we add DE1 to the mix, we add an additional 10%/8s = 1.25%/s damage over eight seconds. Willpower will counter 0.98%/s, which means we will be taking 0.27%/s from DE. With the 0.25% positive health recovery we had, we're left with -0.02%/s net overall damage taken over eight seconds. That's completely unnoticeable. What's more, after DE expires, Cloak would heal back 33% of DE's damage, which means Cloak would get a 3.3% insta-heal. 0.02%/s of damage over eight seconds is 0.16% net health lost. So Cloak with LC and DE1 is in a position that, even if he somehow just always had the degeneration on him constantly, would still be net regen positive, and by a lot. Which means there is just no real downside to just pushing a defender to the wall and melting them. His gigantic regeneration and interactions with Willpower and recoil masteries mean he just doesn't notice the degen at all.
[Note: I know I didn't factor in Recovery. It wasn't even necessary given where the numbers were going.]
So the question is less how fast should he ramp up, and more is this too powerful at any ramp up. I guess it would depend on the strength of the passive degen (above 150) and the life steal, but if both of those are trivial in strength that would make one of his big selling point abilities meaningless.
The *idea* of it seems too strong, and it is difficult to find numbers that aren't too powerful but still meaningful.
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To view Cloak and Dagger as the same character.