What’s happening with AI?

Ok firstly I thought because both me and my iphone are getting older but after watching Beroman stream for half hour, I realize that even the best BG player now getting punish frequently either by
_ AI backdraft intercept professionally like Dorky Dave video’s tutorial
_ AI wait for your dash in to light intercept
_ AI skipping frame rate during their heavy attack or special
_ AI holding special until power sting debuff on them gone
_ AI parry and whiff crazily

I may miss something. Well…

Comments

raviXsharma

You forgot AI holding power especially when they have a power gain buff or passive until it reaches 3 bars of power

DarkNightRise

You forgot AI holding power especially when they have a power gain buff or passive until it reaches 3 bars of power

Yeah I know I may miss something man…

PT_99

What is this?
Kabam and defenders asked people for "video proof where? Lol lol"
Now from months there are proof, the defenders have shifted from, "it's hard to fix, yup yup"

Hard to fix for 8+ months? Crazy times.

AI from last 2 months have learnt a new thing of casually walking towards us, just simple walk, if you try to attack it will perry, if you try to dash in it will light punch you, if you try to dash back, it WALK towards you, won't dash into you as it KNOWS you will use parry in response.

raviXsharma

What is this?
Kabam and defenders asked people for "video proof where? Lol lol"
Now from months there are proof, the defenders have shifted from, "it's hard to fix, yup yup"

Hard to fix for 8+ months? Crazy times.

AI from last 2 months have learnt a new thing of casually walking towards us, just simple walk, if you try to attack it will perry, if you try to dash in it will light punch you, if you try to dash back, it WALK towards you, won't dash into you as it KNOWS you will use parry in response.

If you dash at him, it knows your input. The very next frame after your dash input it interrupts with a light attack or special.

Ansh_A

Let me add another one - the AI is occasionally getting a first hit in before you can do anything. Happened to me three times against Guardian, who is this week's side quest boss. After the first time, i actually start a fight with a dex (he goes unblockable immediately) but he still managed to dash forward and punch me twice before i could realize the fight had started.

DarkNightRise

Let me add another one - the AI is occasionally getting a first hit in before you can do anything. Happened to me three times against Guardian, who is this week's side quest boss. After the first time, i actually start a fight with a dex (he goes unblockable immediately) but he still managed to dash forward and punch me twice before i could realize the fight had started.

I believe this cause by AI is able to skip the frame rate as well but not sure

Lifeswicked

I'm sick of ai parrying my heavies

KabamDORK

Hey all, I see your post. Let me get this in front of the game team as I know they're also investigating similar reports.

DarkNightRise

Hey all, I see your post. Let me get this in front of the game team as I know they're also investigating similar reports.

Thanks for acknowledging Dork, hopefully get some update from you soon.

Dubois

Thought it was just me lol, I was fighting photon and she dashed back and intercepted me. Got hercd by AI ffs

Archit_1812

Ya'll also forgot holding power forever till sp3 immediate launch and holding block in until you try to block break with a heavy or bait an intercept.

FlipBoy

Kabam claims that the AI's actions are RNG based, from what I'm reading, it seems that the AI RNG is pretty spot on perfect to whatever it needs to do to damage the player.

MDx

Hey all, I see your post. Let me get this in front of the game team as I know they're also investigating similar reports.

The game team already know this stuff since months now . We don't want you just notifying us that you've seen this , just want a look into the real situation - is it working as intended ? ( And don't tell us that Dev's didn't touch anything ) Is it being worked on ? If no, then why and if yes , then what's the progress?
Answer these normal questions from time to time and majority of players won't bother you guys much.

Asyalol

In the secondary quest, when you have a dard and have the transfer to the defender, the defender's AI remains in defense until the dard finishes without using super power. I have never played like that. And when they are unblockable , the defense becomes super fast and super aggressive, and when their unblockable ends, he stays in defense. It's not normal, there is really a very big modification of the AI

Perfect_jab

Still an problem when hitting into a defenders block. Recovery times for the AI is just ridiculous anymore. After specials an heavy attacks you cant punish them. All these champs that i could dash right in an attack after evading their heavy or special will either parry me or intercept me. Its really killing the game for me more an more. It just keeps getting worse an worse.

Glassback

I’ve had a few matches in BGs this morn where the def launched a special while I’m holding block, never seen that either.

Gutu

This happen to me today in casual questing, defender hold block for 20-30 seconds until sp3, light attack intercepts every time when I had to intercept to move the power sting, holding special until power sting expires, holding block until you dash back and attack you, this is ridiculous, I'm not even getting mad when I see this, this makes me feel like a clown

Elthan

Hey all, I see your post. Let me get this in front of the game team as I know they're also investigating similar reports.

Game Team: "We don't touch the AI... ever... well, not actively"

It's been a year the team plays their player base for clowns. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...

Knucklez

There are so many good comments here in this thread, and these same AI issues (such as the insanely fast recovery speed) seem to keep happening to far too many players.

At this point, the AI issues have been going on for so long that I don’t even care whether Kabam has messed with the AI or not. I just want them to adjust it to make it fair again.

Surely there must be some way for Kabam to make at least some adjustments to the AI. Otherwise, it could come across to some players as if they’ve lost control of their AI.

Kabam, please turn down the juice on the AI, even if it’s just a little bit. The current state of AI is making the game less fun and more frustrating for many players.

Nemesis_17

It’s getting pretty frustrating, I had a bg match yesterday that was entirely decided by the ai I got.

Round 1 I used Hulkling against Nick, I threw my 2nd sp2 while he was in second life, and I just needed to get in a combo to kill him. He was at 15 charges, and had an sp1, so if he were to throw an sp1 he’d go out of his unblockable mode. I didn’t have my relic, so I had to yolo the intercept and hope it lands, and what does he do? He sp1 intercepts me which takes him out of his unblockable, completely against what his ai is programmed to do. I lose half of my health, and the round by 200 points.

Round 2: I have Cgr vs bullseye, a very good matchup especially this meta. I get the vigilance up so I can parry freely, then go for a heavy which pushes bullseye to his sp1. Since I can’t dex with Cgr, I parry to try and bait his special, which is fine since I have the vigilance up anyway. So I keep parrying, and parrying, and parrying, I’m now backed against the wall and my vigilance is expired since he won’t throw it no matter what. I eat a heavy because out of instinct I can’t dex and I’m up against the wall. I keep parrying to not dex but now I’m faltered constantly and he won’t throw it. By the time he does it’s too late and I got like 45k points instead of the 51-52k it should’ve been, which would’ve been enough to win the round.

Like tf am I supposed to do there? I swear ai is aware of the champs you’re using and the effects they currently have active. Both those rounds were lost by the ai doing something completely out of character for them. Nick never throws his sp1 if he ends his own unblockable, but when that’s the only thing I need him not to do? Then he throws it. Bullseye is always incredibly trigger happy with his sp1, but when I’m using Cgr and can’t dex? He waits 25s and backs me in a corner first. It’s just wayyyy too convenient.

captain_rogers

Today in AW I met the most passive Fantman in existence. Dude don't want to dash in at all. He just blocks and tries to maintain his armor up buffs. I think AI is getting awareness.

Vanitelia

Skynet is real. When's the T2 coming into the contest? Would be a nice tech addition to the game and a great Act 9 boss.

Terminatrix

Since I was just about to make another post about this very issue again...😂😭

AI has been absolutely ridiculous. You can't do anything without being immediately intercepted or somethig else going wrong.

Strikers are being made obsolete because AI is whiffing or immediately dexing their attacks. How??

I don't mind fights being difficult, but they should be fair and reasonable. This takes the cake.

Let me also add the glaring technical and dropped input issues.

-there is a delay reaction when swiping/dexing back after you attack the defender with a combo or a special...especially if the defender is in a corner. Attacker just kinda stands there idle and looking stupid. This allows an opening for the defender AI to immediately counter.

-when AI throws a special and you try to dex or dodge it, the game freezes or gets buggy and throws your reaction timing off. By the time you recover, the defender is already in your face putting those Mike Tyson moves on you.

-Weird game controls. Sometimes after the defender uses a special, the attacker suddenly races towards them. Attacker did not have any type of mind control debuffs.

-Striker
...oh boy. Somehow the AI whiffed my striker, and hit me while my striker was still in it's face. 💀 It hit through my striker as if my striker was a ghost lol

Terminatrix

And then there was this from SoS. I was just playing around and practicing on the node first, to get a good feel for it.

CMM's beam attacks are unblockable when she's in Binary Ingition. So how does GP block it?? 😅 There was no node buff that mentioned blocking unblockables, annnnnd last time I checked, that wasn't in GP's kit. 😅

EdisonLaw

You forgot AI holding power especially when they have a power gain buff or passive until it reaches 3 bars of power

Mordo?

Terminatrix

Also..AI waiting out your champs protective buffs (Indestructible, Immortal, etc), and counter debuffs (power sting, dark sting) before it throws it's special, or holding on to it's special for a long time in BGs.

And sometimes it seems like AI has been leaping towards the attacker and clearing an ungodly amount of space in one lunge. 🤔

Vanitelia

I think Kabam has mentioned that the AI isn't really AI in terms of it having the ability to learn. That's fine and I'll take their word for it. It does feel like it's been fine tuned to take into account player actions based on the node combinations. For example, if it's a power sting node, they'll hold specials or if it's aegis intercept, they're more likely to light intercept because the player has to dash in more often.

Previously, AI was more predictable because it felt like it was based on their individual kits. Power gain champs would hold for their specials, champs with abilities tied to their heavies would throw those more often, etc.. They still do this, but while also accounting for variables like their opponents kit, node combinations, current buffs/debuffs, even time left in a fight. Perfect example are matchups where players use infuriate/intimidate. If an infuriate debuff is up, the player will be more aggressive so intercepts become a thing.

Who knows. It could be us too. We play differently based on the very same reasons. We need to be more aggressive, take more risks, naturally the AI has more opportunities to throw a lucky light intercept. It just doesn't feel like that's what's happening lately.

BloodyRose

On blocking... since the hot fix I'm having the hardest time executing a parry and defenders are hitting through blocks with light and mediums.

MarsTheMartian

Hey all, I see your post. Let me get this in front of the game team as I know they're also investigating similar reports.

It's been going on for months. But the community isn't dumb, we know why fixes don't happen when the AI is broken, because it makes Kabam money. It's pretty blatant and obvious, when there's a bug that helps players It's fixed within days, sometimes even hours after it's been brought to Kabams attention. I work in software development, I know for a fact this AI behavior is programmed to act this way because the AI intercepts and does this annoying stuff flawlessy across the entire player base.

Thecurler

Champs with mechanics that require you to hit into defenders block, hulkling, valk, masacre etc are basically horrible to use in war at this point.
Guaranteed the defender will parry you when you’re hitting their block at some point during the fight.