My Opinion
Terra
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I don't feel champions who turns off masteries for the negative detriment of the player are a valid or good game design.
Looking at you, Photon. No I'm not pissy.
Looking at you, Photon. No I'm not pissy.
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Realize that players are using time and energy to farm revives.
Step 2, remove revive farming.
In return, offer 1 revive per day (not counting daily events that already had them).
Step 3, realize that players figured out how to still make it work without using units.
Panic.
Step 4, create champs that increase the likelihood of needing to heal or revive regardless of skill.
I wonder what step 5 will be.
But now they can be turned off/negated?
Kind of ridiculous.
2. Photon has a lot of counters now so…
Id take photon these days (she used to shallow dex intercept a month ago, haven't felt her doing that now a days.)
Take this with a grain of salt though, I'm only tb and I don't really play bgs. Most of this stuff doesn't affect me all that much
You buy masteries.
But, they may not work on new champs?
Nodes in goofy content I can understand.
But a champion that just shuts down masteries is kind of ridiculous?
Don’t bother, these types just like to complain for the sake of complaining. What is this even going to do? Photon has been in the game quite a while now. Just learn to adapt this post isn’t going to remove her or stop kabam from adding more champs like this.
Long before I started playing this game, I suggested to another dev team that they implement the "whine flag." The whine flag would be a binary flag that would be flipped whenever someone complained about a game design decision without understanding the design implications, based on completely made-up criteria. The effect of the whine flag would be: their characters, and only their characters would get what they asked for. And the flag would be permanent and un-appealable. Once you ask for it, you get it, forever.
If I had infinite discretionary design power in MCOC, I'd consider it.
Photon is not intended to simply hand the player unlimited healing via debuffs. There are a lot of ways to prevent that. They could have made all of Photon's effects passives, which would mean skill champs couldn't purify them. They could implement a persistent spectre debuff which would either completely neutralize all healing (not just from Photon's debuffs, but from recoil masteries and any other node sources) or even reverse it. There's lots of things they could do. Disabling Willpower was the route they went. But the idea that if they were prevented from disabling Willpower then that would be it, players would just get free healing from Photon, is ludicrous. It took a ton of extra development work to implement Willpower disabling. The devs didn't have to do that. They could have used any of the other options available to them. They implemented Willpower disable because all other options were much worse. But give them no choice, and they will use them, as would I.
You don't get to "keep" Willpower healing. Poison can reduce it. Spectre can even reverse it against you. There's no rule in the game that says everything must benefit the player, even though there are lots of players who believe that. Ability accuracy reduction should only be allowed if it helps me, it is unfair/nonsensical/broken if it hurts me. Masteries must always help, if the game mechanics prevent that the rules of the game should change until they do. Nodes designed to help the player must help every champ in their roster or they are busted. None of these things are actual game design rules, and none of them actually make sense when it comes to designing a consistent and reasonable game experience. They are just the complaints of players who think everything should go their way, they way they want, the way they expect.
Nobody follows those rules.
Take photon for example,..she is by no means op.
But shuts down willpower,..which is in essence…balance. People have to understand that this game is 10 years old,….and there are intricate adjustments to be made.
For the health and longevity of the game,…believe it or not,…i trust Kabam in these decisions.
If Photon did not turn off dex, she would not be a hard defender
Photon was designed with the intentions of being a very hard defender
You can put the pieces together if you want
Introducing champions that shut down those masteries is dumb.
Obviously @DNA3000 disagrees and thinks I am just whining?
Let’s take a trip.
So you manage to either spend or get the mastery cores to unlock willpower.
Meanwhile, here’s a champ that just shuts that down.
Guess I am a whiner book boy.
You don’t need a neuroshock immune because most champs can nuke onslaught with high health as long as you don’t parry
What? No comment for bullseye?
Y'all really be acting like all of us that say something don't know how to play the game, anyone can do this and anyone can do that.. it's not the point though, is it? You really need lucky draws in BGs for counters. That's if you have them ranked or have them in general. I'm sitting in arcane 3 though so I shouldn't complain too much
Your masteries are still very much there, it’s just disabled by a few new champions. Mind you, your masteries were already effectively disabled by a number of champions and nodes anyways. You weren’t getting value from willpower on heal block nodes and were punished for it by champs like Warlock. Mangog doesn’t disable dex but you’re welcome to try doing so against his unblockable sp2. Same deal for Ikaris’s sp2. If your mastery purchases were truly devalued because of this then I invite you to just remove dex altogether, invest the points in a mastery that can’t be disabled and see how that works out.
And even if I had it, silencing replies to my posts is not really my style, as any one who’s paid any attention to my posts over the last nine years would find obvious.
However, asking a question and then making it clear that you already think you know the answer is very on-brand for you.
On brand for me?
Bro, you’re so off that the forum is outside your phone screen.
I guess we’ll see.
or champs like kingpin and DDHK getting reduced benefit from it?
not all masteries are designed to work in every situation.