Enchantress on defence is unfair

DarknessFalls

I have never hated a defender as much as enchantress. I thought it would be doable with yeh 3 way you counter spells, but enchantress counters the counter with evasion, miss and unstoppable.

If to counter a hero, kabam has to give us nodes in event quest, then how are we suppose to in side quest. This is not enjoyable period.

Friendly001

Meh

Ourobøros

Side quest Enchantress is not hard tho. I fought her with Torch, Silk, Photon, Ham

DarknessFalls

Ourobøros said:

Side quest Enchantress is not hard tho. I fought her with Torch, Silk, Photon, Ham

I only have r4 champ in saga and she started with all 3 spells from start, couldn't even get the AI to let me intercept as it's was unstoppable. Hence could not do any damage and struggled, obviously got her with few revives. But not a fight I ever wanna look forward to.

With the way AI is, this fight is rng and no fun.

JLordVileJ

Ngl I never thought of that but you are right. They legit gave us nodes specific to her to help us. Nkt even it helps us but it drains our health or smth. They straight up gave us nodes to help kill her

WednesdayLength

If she starts with all 3 types of spells, bait her heavy and only counter the final hit if she has untouchable so you'll have enough time to dash back before the animation ends if she misses. If you counter with a heavy, preferably 2 hit, you get rid of 2 of her spells and then just need to intercept or use a debilitate champion

DarknessFalls

WednesdayLength said:

If she starts with all 3 types of spells, bait her heavy and only counter the final hit if she has untouchable so you'll have enough time to dash back before the animation ends if she misses. If you counter with a heavy, preferably 2 hit, you get rid of 2 of her spells and then just need to intercept or use a debilitate champion

Thanks, but issue is how much research or learning I need to do to just counter a single champ. Have you not thought of issues once she comes in battleground and war with other nodes what will happen.

KnightOfTheRealm

She is so easy to beat just follow the prompts

Captainaiden

Easy even with unblockable node

WednesdayLength

DarknessFalls said:

WednesdayLength said:

If she starts with all 3 types of spells, bait her heavy and only counter the final hit if she has untouchable so you'll have enough time to dash back before the animation ends if she misses. If you counter with a heavy, preferably 2 hit, you get rid of 2 of her spells and then just need to intercept or use a debilitate champion

Thanks, but issue is how much research or learning I need to do to just counter a single champ. Have you not thought of issues once she comes in battleground and war with other nodes what will happen.

I gave you all the research you need to do in 1 comment. This game is an rpg about understanding kits and finding counters, this is what the game is

SummonerNR

I tried some alternate methods of damage, to see what would happen.
On the lowest difficulty monthly EQ (so, lowest rated one to try).

Quake. Nope.
YJ (sting). Nope (unless my SP1 was unlucky and didn’t actually apply a Sting ?) don’t know if Scorpion's would be any different.
Electro (just get hit). Nope (well, maybe, but was way too little damage I think, don’t have one ranked up very high)

GrassKnuckles

She’s no more unfair than Kindred, and I don’t see a lot of complaints about them.

She’s a defender that actively gives you what you need to counter her. Learning the tools makes her simple.

No *unavoidable* damage, no absurd power gain, just a puzzle you need to learn. Take some time to practice her counter methods, and you’ll be set

DarknessFalls

GrassKnuckles said:

She’s no more unfair than Kindred, and I don’t see a lot of complaints about them.

She’s a defender that actively gives you what you need to counter her. Learning the tools makes her simple.

No *unavoidable* damage, no absurd power gain, just a puzzle you need to learn. Take some time to practice her counter methods, and you’ll be set

What, kindred is so easy, we have getting perfect score in bg against him, if your enchantress experience is based on event quest, then reason it was doable was because there were multiple nodes to assist you to counter her.

Coming saga when she will be tactics defender, with only 1 proper tactics attacker with slow, then you will know real pain.

DarknessFalls

WednesdayLength said:

DarknessFalls said:

WednesdayLength said:

If she starts with all 3 types of spells, bait her heavy and only counter the final hit if she has untouchable so you'll have enough time to dash back before the animation ends if she misses. If you counter with a heavy, preferably 2 hit, you get rid of 2 of her spells and then just need to intercept or use a debilitate champion

Thanks, but issue is how much research or learning I need to do to just counter a single champ. Have you not thought of issues once she comes in battleground and war with other nodes what will happen.

I gave you all the research you need to do in 1 comment. This game is an rpg about understanding kits and finding counters, this is what the game is

You do know in upcoming war season with new saga and her being tactic defender, we only have 1 single tactic attacker with slow.

Dragonborn_BR

To those guys whos talking she isnt unfair, do you really do AW? she is Just idiot in some nodes, ngl, Kabam is WAY OFF with this mechanic

Herbal_Taxman

DarknessFalls said:

WednesdayLength said:

DarknessFalls said:

WednesdayLength said:

If she starts with all 3 types of spells, bait her heavy and only counter the final hit if she has untouchable so you'll have enough time to dash back before the animation ends if she misses. If you counter with a heavy, preferably 2 hit, you get rid of 2 of her spells and then just need to intercept or use a debilitate champion

Thanks, but issue is how much research or learning I need to do to just counter a single champ. Have you not thought of issues once she comes in battleground and war with other nodes what will happen.

I gave you all the research you need to do in 1 comment. This game is an rpg about understanding kits and finding counters, this is what the game is

You do know in upcoming war season with new saga and her being tactic defender, we only have 1 single tactic attacker with slow.

And that attacker will be perma-banned

GrassKnuckles

DarknessFalls said:

GrassKnuckles said:

She’s no more unfair than Kindred, and I don’t see a lot of complaints about them.

She’s a defender that actively gives you what you need to counter her. Learning the tools makes her simple.

No *unavoidable* damage, no absurd power gain, just a puzzle you need to learn. Take some time to practice her counter methods, and you’ll be set

What, kindred is so easy, we have getting perfect score in bg against him, if your enchantress experience is based on event quest, then reason it was doable was because there were multiple nodes to assist you to counter her.

Coming saga when she will be tactics defender, with only 1 proper tactics attacker with slow, then you will know real pain.

Mr Negative with Photon synergy has slow and solos (I have done it twice, and have videos if you want them)

My alliance has also sent Cap IW and soloed

We have also talked about sending Count Nefaria

Not feeling the real pain you speak of yet

DarknessFalls

GrassKnuckles said:

DarknessFalls said:

GrassKnuckles said:

She’s no more unfair than Kindred, and I don’t see a lot of complaints about them.

She’s a defender that actively gives you what you need to counter her. Learning the tools makes her simple.

No *unavoidable* damage, no absurd power gain, just a puzzle you need to learn. Take some time to practice her counter methods, and you’ll be set

What, kindred is so easy, we have getting perfect score in bg against him, if your enchantress experience is based on event quest, then reason it was doable was because there were multiple nodes to assist you to counter her.

Coming saga when she will be tactics defender, with only 1 proper tactics attacker with slow, then you will know real pain.

Mr Negative with Photon synergy has slow and solos (I have done it twice, and have videos if you want them)

My alliance has also sent Cap IW and soloed

We have also talked about sending Count Nefaria

Not feeling the real pain you speak of yet

Isn't that a little too much for 1 champion take down when war has become lot more complicated with multiple defenders.
Don't have cap IW will check it once I have

KLZ

Does anyone know if Enchantress will be in the next 6* featured?

Masquirade

KLZ said:

Does anyone know if Enchantress will be in the next 6* featured?

Doesn't appear so mate.

SammyDe

Already fought a 7* Enchantress in AW today. Bit sad that she is not in the next featured. Guess I will keep saving up my shards till the next round…

DarknessFalls

Masquirade said:

KLZ said:

Does anyone know if Enchantress will be in the next 6* featured?

Doesn't appear so mate.

I would love to get that scorpion, been so long, still no luck

BurningMadRedd

I'm currently fighting Enchantress in AW as of this writing. She was placed on the node that every 10 seconds the attacker gets rooted. She starts either with unstoppable, then goes unblockable, or with 2 or more spells. Youtube says that purple means knock down, green means punish, and orange means to intercept. Kind of hard to do when you get rooted or she places a falter on you and all you do is miss when you try to hit her. If you do manage enough hits to get a sp1 or 2, then go and use either one, her damage reflection punishes the hell out of your attacker. I am using a max ascended Doctor Doom with 200/200 sigs, a max ascended CGR with 200/200 sigs, and a max ascended Abs man with 159/200 sigs at the moment. Not like I can just change my attackers in the middle of the war and I had a perfect run at 15.6 %, and 8 kills until her. I would say I have given her at least 20 deaths ngl. A lower alliance member was stuck, so I was like, "I'll help! " Now I'm stuck! !
I have a 4 star version of Enchantress, and I have yet to learn how to use her. A lot of players haven't learned her yet, but of course the AI knows how to use her perfectly in AW. The AI isn't going to play dumb on that mode of the game. In AW I have to say, on the right node(s), she is 99% unbeatable in 3 fights or under. I will beat her eventually, but at what cost is unseen at the moment.

EdisonLaw