Who at kabam tought this was a good deal😂

Almost 300$ for not even a titan and 2 7*😆

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Doesn't matter if kabam thinks it has value. All that matters to them is that there are people out there who are buying these deals. While those people exists, things like this will still exist

JLordVileJ

Kabam could see 1 mil gold for 200 pounds and there would probably be 1 idiot out there who buys it. 200 pounds profit. Simple as

DNA3000

Kabam could see 1 mil gold for 200 pounds and there would probably be 1 idiot out there who buys it. 200 pounds profit. Simple as

And if such people exist, Kabam should go get their money. The more they spend, the less everyone else has to.

They happy, we happy, Kabam happy, Youtubers who rate offers happy. Even the people not happy are probably happy they can complain about being not happy. No losers here.

BringPopcorn

Congratulations OP, you discovered you can decide whether something is worth buying or not.
You must be a joy to go shopping with.

DiscoNnectKing

Congratulations OP, you discovered you can decide whether something is worth buying or not.
You must be a joy to go shopping with.

And you are becoming the most annoying forum regular out there.

DiscoNnectKing

Doesn't matter if kabam thinks it has value. All that matters to them is that there are people out there who are buying these deals. While those people exists, things like this will still exist

True but wouldn't it be better if the deals where more valueable. So more people spend? That's what its about no?

BringPopcorn

Congratulations OP, you discovered you can decide whether something is worth buying or not.
You must be a joy to go shopping with.
And you are becoming the most annoying forum regular out there.

Jokes on you I thought I already was.

Furrymoosen

It's not a good deal, but it does fall in line with most of Kabam's deals around 7* champs. It seems in general a 7* is valued at $100. For $320 USD, you get 2 7* crystals, a Titan, plus 10k 7* and 4k titan shards to spare. It's technically a better deal than most of what they've sold 7( for outside of double tracks.

JT_Supreme

That for a potential vtd and silver sable is a big gamble

ahmynuts

Congratulations OP, you discovered you can decide whether something is worth buying or not.
You must be a joy to go shopping with.
And you are becoming the most annoying forum regular out there.

Okay fan of Dr. Disrespect. Yeah we didnt forget that

HungaryHippo

Congratulations OP, you discovered you can decide whether something is worth buying or not.
You must be a joy to go shopping with.
And you are becoming the most annoying forum regular out there.

You don’t want to be part of the cool club who **** on any new person that doesn’t know everything that the mighty forum tough guys know?

Qwerty12345

they are just setting you up.

next deal will be $60 for a full 7 star, and 7500 titan shards... and it will be a "bargain" in comparison.

BringPopcorn

Imagine going into Amazon and dropping reviews on items that don't interest you...

DiscoNnectKing

Congratulations OP, you discovered you can decide whether something is worth buying or not.
You must be a joy to go shopping with.
And you are becoming the most annoying forum regular out there.
Okay fan of Dr. Disrespect. Yeah we didnt forget that

What was wrong with being a fan of drdisrespect back in the day lol

DiscoNnectKing

Imagine going into Amazon and dropping reviews on items that don't interest you...

If i'm using amazon daily and there is only one new item for sale among 10 regular items. Then the comparison is better

BringPopcorn

Imagine going into Amazon and dropping reviews on items that don't interest you...
If i'm using amazon daily and there is only one new item for sale among 10 regular items. Then the comparison is better

You are still comparing and reviewing something that didn't catch your interest...🤣

Pikolu

Doesn't matter if kabam thinks it has value. All that matters to them is that there are people out there who are buying these deals. While those people exists, things like this will still exist
True but wouldn't it be better if the deals where more valueable. So more people spend? That's what its about no?

You want more people complaining about the f2p and p2w gap widening? Also if every deal has "great value" then no deals actually have great value. They'll all be average value and then at big events like cyber weekend and J4, the deals would need to be "epic value" if you wanted people to spend on them. However, with those "epic value deals" being a thing, then people wouldn't spend on the "great value" things because they can get more for their money by simply being patient and waiting for the big events.

Then you have the economy balancing issues that come from every deal needing to be great value and then there is 0 hope for ftp to even think about competing. As an example, let's say that every deal has been great value for spenders, then the whales who actually spend on these types of offers, would have gone from, lets say 30 r3s (which is probably close to what it actually is right now) to having anywhere from 60-90 r3s. However, the ftps still would only have the same number of r3s as they do right now. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to be facing people with a full BG deck of r3s at probably a high sig too for all of them.

That's the main issue that comes when you want to inject better offers into the economy.

DNA3000

Doesn't matter if kabam thinks it has value. All that matters to them is that there are people out there who are buying these deals. While those people exists, things like this will still exist
True but wouldn't it be better if the deals where more valueable. So more people spend? That's what its about no?

The exact opposite is true. The goal is to sell as little as possible to as few players as possible while still making enough money to operate at a reasonable profit margin.

There are two fundamental models for massively multiplayer online games. There's the subscription model, and there's the microtransaction supported model, which is largely congruent with but not exactly synonymous with the free to play model.

In the subscription model everyone pays, and everyone pays basically the same amount. From a game-economy point of view this is the simplest model, because the game economy can be designed as if money doesn't exist. Because everyone spends the same amount, everyone sees the same game. All rewards can be awarded based solely on game play. There are no whales, no pay to play, no spending disparities.

The problem is: not everyone wants to pay. In fact, even the notion that everyone "pays the same" in a subscription model is flawed, because while that might be true in a literal sense, it isn't true from the perspective of the spenders. A millionaire business owner paying twenty bucks a month is not paying the same amount, on a relative basis, as a minimum wage student. The former is paying essentially nothing, the latter is paying a substantial portion of their discretionary budget. Relative to their propensity to pay, the first one is getting off easy while the latter is being asked to make a huge sacrifice to play the game.

The free to play microtransaction model allows everyone to pay for free, and then sells incremental benefits in the game for money. In this model, most players play for free, because in reality most people don't have tons of discretionary money to spend. A few do spend, and of those people some spend a lot in absolute terms, because they can afford to. This is the harder model to design for, because your in-game economy has to account for the monetization of the game. To make enough money to survive, you have to convince people to spend when they don't need to. You need to offer them things they are willing to spend on. But you also need to make sure that the things you offer them aren't so overwhelmingly beneficial that you convince the free players it isn't worth playing the game anymore. Ideally you want to sell things that the spenders thing is worth it, but the non-spenders equally think don't really matter.

You might think these are extremes, and there are lots of options in the middle, with some subscription fees and some microtransactions. And you'd be right. However, it seems like most successful games exist at the extremes, either trying to offer as level a playing field as possible with subscriptions, or trying to implement as unobtrusive microtransactions as possible by making concentrating spending among a minority of players.

What happens if all the deals are a) affordable and b) high value? Then most players will spend. Which will leave the few who don't at a disadvantage, and what's worse they will be at a disadvantage not just to a few whales, but to almost everyone around them. When you don't spend, and neither does most of the players you know, that's fine. When you don't spend and it seems like you're the only one, that's a hostile environment that most would soon leave.

You can force everyone to spend the same amount with subscriptions. Or you can allow most players to play for free, surrounded by other free to play players, with only a small minority spending a ton of money that everyone else can usually safely ignore. But anything in the middle creates additional problems.

In a recent live stream on Vega's channel, Kabam Crashed more or less stated his position aligns with the idea of "sell as little as possible to as few as possible" when he said almost exactly those words when describing his monetization philosophy. Crashed is, among other things, one of the people responsible for monetization in MCOC.

CROSSHAIRS

How much in American

Pikolu

How much in American

$80 USD

captain_rogers

How much in American

100 Freedom units 🦅🦅

DiscoNnectKing

Doesn't matter if kabam thinks it has value. All that matters to them is that there are people out there who are buying these deals. While those people exists, things like this will still exist
True but wouldn't it be better if the deals where more valueable. So more people spend? That's what its about no?
You want more people complaining about the f2p and p2w gap widening? Also if every deal has "great value" then no deals actually have great value. They'll all be average value and then at big events like cyber weekend and J4, the deals would need to be "epic value" if you wanted people to spend on them. However, with those "epic value deals" being a thing, then people wouldn't spend on the "great value" things because they can get more for their money by simply being patient and waiting for the big events.

Then you have the economy balancing issues that come from every deal needing to be great value and then there is 0 hope for ftp to even think about competing. As an example, let's say that every deal has been great value for spenders, then the whales who actually spend on these types of offers, would have gone from, lets say 30 r3s (which is probably close to what it actually is right now) to having anywhere from 60-90 r3s. However, the ftps still would only have the same number of r3s as they do right now. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to be facing people with a full BG deck of r3s at probably a high sig too for all of them.

That's the main issue that comes when you want to inject better offers into the economy.

Makes sense. Thanks for replying reasonable and not hating. I understand now

smdam38

I wouldn’t buy but a lot of people here have a lot of disposable income and don’t care much about money.

Palistes

I wouldn’t buy but a lot of people here have a lot of disposable income and don’t care much about money.

Odd statement. This game, and capitalism in general, wouldn't function if people with disposable income "cared about money" and didn't spend it.

smdam38

What’s odd about it?
And what does the myth of capitalism have to do with it?

It’s people playing the game with easy to get disposable income.

smdam38

That’s not capitalism.

CROSSHAIRS

That’s not capitalism.

Your right it's prestige pricing

Pandingo

They will take the sales data and adjust if needed. Look at the sig deals. Nobody was buying them so they keep tweaking them

captain_rogers

That’s not capitalism.

Capitalists steal everything, even the catch phrase of commies

I'm referring to
"tHaT's nOt cOmMunIsM"

BringPopcorn

As a capitalist I had the most fun in a vacation to Cuba