My disappointment in the latest Stream

This is not another post complaining about a giveaway or promo codes

I feel like streams are becoming very hollow or I don't know what else would be better to describe it. It does not feel interactive. I didn't feel like there was any benefit in it being live. It could be a video posted on youtube, scheduled as premiere and I think it would be the same experience.

Chat was awful. It felt like it was filled with bots. People spamming same message over and over again. Later they started spamming emotes, troll copy pastas. Not that it was offensive or anything but it's just not a good experience. At the same time, I couldn't write anything, was getting timed out for no reason, and even if i could send my message it would have not been seen and be lost among the spammed messages. Entering the giveaway also i dont know if was successful or not, chat doesn't give any feedback. Again it's not about the giveaway, it's about the chatting experience

I want to watch the stream and be involved. But like i said i feel like i dont need to. I could just watch RitchTheMan recap and not feel like i missed out on something, actually i would save myself some time.

twitch drops were a great addition tho, thanks for that!

people who watched the stream how do you feel about it?
and does Kabam have any plans to change the format of the stream?

my other post got lost and i dunno if it will be back later, if it does appear back i will delete that one.

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PT_99

Blud don't know anything about Twitch chat 😔

Demonzfyre

This is not another post complaining about a giveaway or promo codes

I feel like streams are becoming very hollow or I don't know what else would be better to describe it. It does not feel interactive. I didn't feel like there was any benefit in it being live. It could be a video posted on youtube, scheduled as premiere and I think it would be the same experience.

Chat was awful. It felt like it was filled with bots. People spamming same message over and over again. Later they started spamming emotes, troll copy pastas. Not that it was offensive or anything but it's just not a good experience. At the same time, I couldn't write anything, was getting timed out for no reason, and even if i could send my message it would have not been seen and be lost among the spammed messages. Entering the giveaway also i dont know if was successful or not, chat doesn't give any feedback. Again it's not about the giveaway, it's about the chatting experience

I want to watch the stream and be involved. But like i said i feel like i dont need to. I could just watch RitchTheMan recap and not feel like i missed out on something, actually i would save myself some time.

twitch drops were a great addition tho, thanks for that!

people who watched the stream how do you feel about it?
and does Kabam have any plans to change the format of the stream?

my other post got lost and i dunno if it will be back later, if it does appear back i will delete that one.

Past streams did not have interaction with chat either outside of announcing giveaway winners. I think what you're experiencing is that the streams seem clunky now. Jax just seemed to have a better personality for livestreaming. Dave is a great personality but tends to seem lost in the flow of the stream where Jax always seemed comfortable.

As the livestreams grow, you'll see more bots. It's just the way it is. You can't prevent it, you can only try and get rid of them as much as possible. But expecting for your message to be seen with 30k people in the stream is a little far fetched.

Farrukh_tv

Blud don't know anything about Twitch chat 😔

I dont use twitch a lot but i watch some other streamers sometimes, i dont get spammed witth a$$ cheeks or d'"ck emotes there.
It can be moderated. I am pretty sure its very easy fix to not allow these spams

Demonzfyre

Blud don't know anything about Twitch chat 😔
I dont use twitch a lot but i watch some other streamers sometimes, i dont get spammed witth a$$ cheeks or d'"ck emotes there.
It can be moderated. I am pretty sure its very easy fix to not allow these spams

It is moderated. But they can't ban someone before something happens. Everyone spamming those things were banned and it wasn't the same person over and over again.

Farrukh_tv

This is not another post complaining about a giveaway or promo codes

I feel like streams are becoming very hollow or I don't know what else would be better to describe it. It does not feel interactive. I didn't feel like there was any benefit in it being live. It could be a video posted on youtube, scheduled as premiere and I think it would be the same experience.

Chat was awful. It felt like it was filled with bots. People spamming same message over and over again. Later they started spamming emotes, troll copy pastas. Not that it was offensive or anything but it's just not a good experience. At the same time, I couldn't write anything, was getting timed out for no reason, and even if i could send my message it would have not been seen and be lost among the spammed messages. Entering the giveaway also i dont know if was successful or not, chat doesn't give any feedback. Again it's not about the giveaway, it's about the chatting experience

I want to watch the stream and be involved. But like i said i feel like i dont need to. I could just watch RitchTheMan recap and not feel like i missed out on something, actually i would save myself some time.

twitch drops were a great addition tho, thanks for that!

people who watched the stream how do you feel about it?
and does Kabam have any plans to change the format of the stream?

my other post got lost and i dunno if it will be back later, if it does appear back i will delete that one.
Past streams did not have interaction with chat either outside of announcing giveaway winners. I think what you're experiencing is that the streams seem clunky now. Jax just seemed to have a better personality for livestreaming. Dave is a great personality but tends to seem lost in the flow of the stream where Jax always seem comfortable.

As the livestreams grow, you'll see more bots. It's just the way it is. You can't prevent it, you can only try and get rid of them as much as possible. But expecting for your message to be seen with 30k people in the stream is a little far fetched.

Well yeah i dont expect my message to be seen by Dave or be shouted out on the stream, or something liek that. I meant that it wont be seen by anyone in general becausethere is too much spam, not to even someone in the chat.

dr2ws

It was a little cheesy, I’ve seen a few people say it was hard to watch. For it to be advertised as their 10th Anniversary, I expected a little more, a little bit more different, but it was pretty much the same as any other stream.

Demonzfyre

This is not another post complaining about a giveaway or promo codes

I feel like streams are becoming very hollow or I don't know what else would be better to describe it. It does not feel interactive. I didn't feel like there was any benefit in it being live. It could be a video posted on youtube, scheduled as premiere and I think it would be the same experience.

Chat was awful. It felt like it was filled with bots. People spamming same message over and over again. Later they started spamming emotes, troll copy pastas. Not that it was offensive or anything but it's just not a good experience. At the same time, I couldn't write anything, was getting timed out for no reason, and even if i could send my message it would have not been seen and be lost among the spammed messages. Entering the giveaway also i dont know if was successful or not, chat doesn't give any feedback. Again it's not about the giveaway, it's about the chatting experience

I want to watch the stream and be involved. But like i said i feel like i dont need to. I could just watch RitchTheMan recap and not feel like i missed out on something, actually i would save myself some time.

twitch drops were a great addition tho, thanks for that!

people who watched the stream how do you feel about it?
and does Kabam have any plans to change the format of the stream?

my other post got lost and i dunno if it will be back later, if it does appear back i will delete that one.
Past streams did not have interaction with chat either outside of announcing giveaway winners. I think what you're experiencing is that the streams seem clunky now. Jax just seemed to have a better personality for livestreaming. Dave is a great personality but tends to seem lost in the flow of the stream where Jax always seem comfortable.

As the livestreams grow, you'll see more bots. It's just the way it is. You can't prevent it, you can only try and get rid of them as much as possible. But expecting for your message to be seen with 30k people in the stream is a little far fetched.
Well yeah i dont expect my message to be seen by Dave or be shouted out on the stream, or something liek that. I meant that it wont be seen by anyone in general becausethere is too much spam, not to even someone in the chat.

From what I know, moderator chat is a bit different. They have people off camera looking at chat and will either write stuff down or pin a comment for the host to see. Since Kabam isn't doing donations or anything, its different than other streams where you can pay for your message to be seen. Past streams haven't been this big. But with it being advertised with other companies like IGN and Marvel, this stream got big, quickly.

Farrukh_tv

Blud don't know anything about Twitch chat 😔
I dont use twitch a lot but i watch some other streamers sometimes, i dont get spammed witth a$$ cheeks or d'"ck emotes there.
It can be moderated. I am pretty sure its very easy fix to not allow these spams
It is moderated. But they can't ban someone before something happens. Everyone spamming those things were banned and it wasn't the same person over and over again.

Again i dont use twitch a lot so dont see these messages on other chats and i am trying to stream myself too, i dont have any chatters like actually but still when i was setting moderation up i was suggested to turn on some settings to block the exact type of messages. I dunno if it works like that or not but thats my understanding. Sorry if i am wrong.

Furrymoosen

The stream felt like it had 83% filler and they need to tone it down to 50%. It wasn't bad, but it was way longer than it needed to be or should've been. 90 minutes to give 10 minutes of info is excessive. I appreciate that we get these streams and we get to see some of the faces behind the game, but they know exactly why 98% of the viewers tune in and they string everyone along for as long as they can.
Better focus, less planned cheesey jokes, and less pretending that they're being surprised by the information they're sharing would be great.

Bugmat78

This is not another post complaining about a giveaway or promo codes

I feel like streams are becoming very hollow or I don't know what else would be better to describe it. It does not feel interactive. I didn't feel like there was any benefit in it being live. It could be a video posted on youtube, scheduled as premiere and I think it would be the same experience.

Chat was awful. It felt like it was filled with bots. People spamming same message over and over again. Later they started spamming emotes, troll copy pastas. Not that it was offensive or anything but it's just not a good experience. At the same time, I couldn't write anything, was getting timed out for no reason, and even if i could send my message it would have not been seen and be lost among the spammed messages. Entering the giveaway also i dont know if was successful or not, chat doesn't give any feedback. Again it's not about the giveaway, it's about the chatting experience

I want to watch the stream and be involved. But like i said i feel like i dont need to. I could just watch RitchTheMan recap and not feel like i missed out on something, actually i would save myself some time.

twitch drops were a great addition tho, thanks for that!

people who watched the stream how do you feel about it?
and does Kabam have any plans to change the format of the stream?

my other post got lost and i dunno if it will be back later, if it does appear back i will delete that one.

You're on the money - not enough interaction and too many bots.

Also too many co-hosts I think. I think it works much better with 1 host and 1 guest at a time. Four simultaneously was too much given it was improv. I wouldn't even say that it was Dave - the issue was having a co-host who was trying to be a fulltime comedian and then 2 guests at the same time for half the stream.

It was also too long - given the length they would have needed to do something different eg the time they had MCOC jeopardy. Us silently watching 4 ppl improv and sometimes talking/interrupting each other for at least 40 mins didnt work.

dr2ws

Whenever Karate Mike is on stream I always smile, he’s always my favourite part of the stream.

N8buckeye08

Definitely agree with the feedback. For the number of people that watch the content, they should do prep and rehearsal for a tight 60 minutes. They had a ton of content to get through and a lot of what was said was not substantive.

I found the best content was when Jax would interview the Kabam team members so we could learn more about how the game is crafted. Dave probably doesn’t have the same skill set but a little prep would go a long way. There are so many opportunities for interesting stories for this milestone and we got just a small piece of that with the original models of the game.

I don’t remember who the new guy’s name was but his energy was too similar to Dave’s… it made both of them seem more annoying than they would be if they had a “straight” man to play off their silliness.

I’d also liked to have seen more of a preview of the necropolis challenges to properly set expectations for how difficult it’s going to be.

DRTO

If you have a livestream that has giveaways, expect 90% of the chat to be there just for that and do anything possible to win, which means spamming the chat heavily.

BringPopcorn

Exactly how do you think you can control a live chat with 32k+ people....

ContestOfNoobs

I expected more from 10th anniversary for what was hyped.

The background changes was really 1 of the big reveals 😂

Wozzle007

I think the stream was something like an hour and 40minutes. Think it would have benefited from being 45-60 minutes. It was too long and bloated. These would benefit from being much snappier. For a 10th anniversary it didn’t feel as big of an event as it should have been. Maybe if there the new Everest carinas dropped immediately afterwards it would have been a bit more special.

RockSlyde

99% of chat is just loot goblins begging for the giveaways. I think transitioning towards loot drops for everyone would work a bit better, but then all of chat would be begging for the loot drops. I like to watch the streams as they're fun and getting to see the info live is nice, but I agree that they've become overrun with giveaway-obsessed "viewers"

Azdef

Whenever Karate Mike is on stream I always smile, he’s always my favourite part of the stream.

This your alt @Karatemike415 ?

DocWest

It was way too long for a weekday morning/afternoon stream. The new info revealed did not justify how long it ended up being. The chat was a mess too, but I guess that was to be expected when most people are only showing up for codes and free stuff.

GK_23

First off, I appreciate Kabam presenting information to us in a laid back setting. I’m not an avid stream viewer, but I found myself sticking around for the full streams previously (when real life didn’t have me tied up) due to Kabam Jax’s palatable personality.

With that being said; for me, this one was as a tough watch most of the stream. Other than Kabam Crashed, I don’t resonate with the other personalities. It’s hard to watch/listen for content (and apparently hidden promo codes) when I’m constantly eye rolling 🙄 from the commentary that seems like a bad over-the-top performance with too much unnecessary filler; rather than an organic information-filled presentation/conversation.

And I understand there was a lot of info to share, but an hour an and a half stream is too much for me. Especially with how mentally nauseating the “filler” was. Even if it were to be one that’s highly engaging, an hour and a half is a good chunk of day that several other things in life are calling for.

I don’t have a solution (if there needs to be one offered), but just thought I’d share my personal feedback since it was asked.

Have a great day MCOC community! 😃

Shadow_Shooter

The studio’s appearance is quite amateurish. They could invest around $4-5k in better decor that would last for many years during their streams and events. Professional studio decor, hero replicas, comfortable seating and a visually appealing display of the company branding are all essential for the ambiance and when you represent your brand. The current setup, reminiscent of someone’s garage, needs to be revamped. The close seating and the cheap, thin tablecloth that shows through the table are also noticeable. Considering it’s their 10th-anniversary celebration, they could at least put up a nicer tablecloth.

Additionally, the 90s balloons stacked on shelves don’t contribute to a professional presentation. It’s clear that they need to improve their presentation if they want to capture my attention. While they may have a college-like culture within the company, I still expect some formality when it comes to company-sponsored streams for the game so we are not lost in miniscule details and more focus on the content and events.

ThePredator1001

I personally thought the last live stream was excellent. Dave had a lot of guests, they made a bunch of reveals. And I enjoyed watching it. There was over 30k people watching it live. Of course it’s gonna be hard to interact with chat. And that’s not what the stream was for. It was to let the game team show us exciting stuff coming to the game. They had a bunch of stuff to reveal and the stream was pretty long, I don’t think there would have been time for much interaction. If they want to interact it would have to be a more casual stream like the 7 days of streaming Jax did at the end of last year.

Giantwalrus56

It was way too long for a weekday morning/afternoon stream. The new info revealed did not justify how long it ended up being. The chat was a mess too, but I guess that was to be expected when most people are only showing up for codes and free stuff.

I agree. Not to mention, it became a bit cringe at times. In no way do I think doing that is easy, but I almost turned it off before Mike & Crashed showed up. I enjoy that Dave brings a different energy to the streams than Jax, but sometimes with his lead, the streams go way off the rails. Dave actually mentioned it himself towards the end...

Masquirade

This is not another post complaining about a giveaway or promo codes

I feel like streams are becoming very hollow or I don't know what else would be better to describe it. It does not feel interactive. I didn't feel like there was any benefit in it being live. It could be a video posted on youtube, scheduled as premiere and I think it would be the same experience.

Chat was awful. It felt like it was filled with bots. People spamming same message over and over again. Later they started spamming emotes, troll copy pastas. Not that it was offensive or anything but it's just not a good experience. At the same time, I couldn't write anything, was getting timed out for no reason, and even if i could send my message it would have not been seen and be lost among the spammed messages. Entering the giveaway also i dont know if was successful or not, chat doesn't give any feedback. Again it's not about the giveaway, it's about the chatting experience

I want to watch the stream and be involved. But like i said i feel like i dont need to. I could just watch RitchTheMan recap and not feel like i missed out on something, actually i would save myself some time.

twitch drops were a great addition tho, thanks for that!

people who watched the stream how do you feel about it?
and does Kabam have any plans to change the format of the stream?

my other post got lost and i dunno if it will be back later, if it does appear back i will delete that one.

I suppose your perspective depends on your motivation for watching a stream at all. Most people would struggle to properly interact with the 35k viewers they had aswell as get through the content they did. For me, when something is live, you know you're among the first to witness it, that adds a level of excitement that realistically you just don't get from a VOD.

There will be many people who didn't tune in and just watch the summaries anyway, you can cater to both audiences.

Herbal_Taxman

Kabam needs a stronger producer who can make the overall stream tighter and more consistent. They would also benefit from some persistent on screen graphics to help us know where they are in the agenda, what’s been talked about, what’s coming up.

BringPopcorn

Yeah Kabam, how dare you make a stream like that... I expect you guys to hire Christopher Nolan to direct the livestreams on 2025...

Deacon

The chat was unbearable and I just turned it off especially after I was silence for some reason from even posting .. even waiting more than the supposed 30 seconds.

As far as the personalities .. you can tell that conversation flow isn't any of their bread and butter. Streaming on YouTube is one thing when the audience is essentially just you but understanding the flow of a "show" is very much different. Being a host is very different from being a YouTube personality like Dave and Mike.

It all feels robotic and just pretense. Although I'm fully aware it's not pretense ... but it comes off that way. I was watching at work and people who aren't a part of the MCOC family commented how "fake" everyone seemed. On air personality, control, flow, presentation is a strange beast and you can't just pluck anyone in. Even Jax had his shortcomings in my opinion in that regard.

I've hosted shows for a few years, moderated live conference gaming panels so I know from experience how difficult it is to match and pair the right set of people to pull off a show. You need a proper "Maestro" that understands that dynamic and has existed in that space to present a show like this well.

captain_rogers

Half of the chat were pen!s emojis and spam giveaway codes

Squidopus

I’m surprised that there’s this much negativity around the stream. I have some problems with it, namely that Jax ran a much tighter ship than Dave does, but I’m willing to give him a few more streams to sort that out and hopefully find his flow.

I can’t say I agree at all about there needing to be “interactivity”. I’m watching the streams to learn about the new content and what’s coming up, not for Dave and co. to read chat messages. You could argue there’s no real point in it being a stream as opposed to a prepared video then, but I do kinda like the feel of being live with a bunch of my fellow players and I’d miss that if it were a video.

On that note though, I will certainly agree that chat is horrendous. It takes work to stamp out the problem chatters and you can’t ban em until they’ve already started being visibly bad, I get it, but it’s incessantly terrible and spammy. Like I said, I like the feeling of being with fellow players and seeing what everyone else thinks of the news, and I can’t do that when chat is nonstop flooded with people trying to type in nonexistent raffle codes and seemingly ignoring the stream. I’d say that they should just stop with those giveaways altogether but I realize that would probably get me roasted by the community, so I hope that at least Kabam finds some way to stop all the spam.

Final little note, I’ve seen complaints that the crew didn’t have any chemistry or that the whole show felt “forced”. I suppose I’ve never been very good at gauging people, but I didn’t feel that way at all and I kinda liked the somewhat chill vibe. It seems that I’m in the minority on that one though, so I’ll concede there and hope that others get whatever they’re looking for in that regard. At the end of the day I’m there for the news, if it’s delivered more professionally but boringly I’m still getting the main thing I want.

dr2ws

Whenever Karate Mike is on stream I always smile, he’s always my favourite part of the stream.
This your alt @Karatemike415 ?

He seems passionate about the game, I respect his dedication. 🫡