Anyone else a Sam fan?

I find Sam to be infuriatingly close to being a great champion. But to me, there are just too many timers to keep track of and hoops to jump through for there to be fairly underwhelming damage.

For how much his utility is lauded, I find him extremely lacking in non-conditional utility. He has so much utility tied to his armor ups, but he loses all of them when he uses his SP2. He can bypass miss, but only during his recon scan. He can get a bulwark buff that reduces the opponent's ability accuracy when hitting into his block, but that's also on a timer that may very well expire and leave you vulnerable. He has no utility that's just...there. You have to juggle so many things to even have access to it, and then sacrifice so much of it if you want to deal damage. I find that to be a very frustrating aspect of him.

PT_99

I have A R3 duped Falcon and R3 duped Sam.

What asking for 7* goofy hero daily does to a mf 💀

Sundance_2099

I'm really looking forward to the movie

JLordVileJ

I'm really looking forward to the movie

Same. First marvel movie i will watch in cinema since rags

dr2ws

Falcon does what Sam doesn’t, simple and effective.

EdisonLaw

I find Sam to be infuriatingly close to being a great champion. But to me, there are just too many timers to keep track of and hoops to jump through for there to be fairly underwhelming damage.

For how much his utility is lauded, I find him extremely lacking in non-conditional utility. He has so much utility tied to his armor ups, but he loses all of them when he uses his SP2. He can bypass miss, but only during his recon scan. He can get a bulwark buff that reduces the opponent's ability accuracy when hitting into his block, but that's also on a timer that may very well expire and leave you vulnerable. He has no utility that's just...there. You have to juggle so many things to even have access to it, and then sacrifice so much of it if you want to deal damage. I find that to be a very frustrating aspect of him.

A true jack of all trades but master of none

altavista

I find Sam to be infuriatingly close to being a great champion. But to me, there are just too many timers to keep track of and hoops to jump through for there to be fairly underwhelming damage.

For how much his utility is lauded, I find him extremely lacking in non-conditional utility. He has so much utility tied to his armor ups, but he loses all of them when he uses his SP2. He can bypass miss, but only during his recon scan. He can get a bulwark buff that reduces the opponent's ability accuracy when hitting into his block, but that's also on a timer that may very well expire and leave you vulnerable. He has no utility that's just...there. You have to juggle so many things to even have access to it, and then sacrifice so much of it if you want to deal damage. I find that to be a very frustrating aspect of him.

Agreed. What I’ve realized for myself is that I can (only barely) pay attention to one side of the HUD while playing. Cap Sam has things on timers under both his health bar and the opponent’s health bar that you have to pay attention to. I’m not able to keep track of all of that, so he’s not my type of champion.

Cat_Murdock

I love Sam, I have mine r3! Is he the hardest hitting champ, no definitely not. But I enjoy his combo of utility and it’s serviced me well in fights. I got to use him recently against both the Jabari Panther and Prowler EOP fights, as he was an objective champ but also his kit worked well for both. He’s not for everyone but he’s definitely for me

I disagree with the comparison to Silver Cent from above though. They’re both tech that don’t crit, and have some power drain mechanics, but otherwise Sam is anti Miss, anti prowess (not removal, but cowardice), anti offensive ability accuracy, anti getting hit by specials. He is also one of the few non metal techs, which comes in handy against things like Magnetos and Onslaughts. Cent is anti evade and unstoppable, a heal blocker, passive DOT focused, and has a couple of immunities. I use both, but usually not in overlapping areas.

EdisonLaw

Silver Centurion has almost same utility with better damage

Silver Centurion does have better damage but he doesn’t have the same utility as Sam such as -100% offensive ability accuracy into block while bulwark is active, the miss counter with lock on, parrying non contact attacks with armor ups, autoblock vs specials, etc.

Villain_87

dont ask with me... i am a true fan of kabam and groot

Chilling421

Just got him from back to back crystals ☹️. Its not that he's terrible, there are just better tech champs to use before I even consider using him

altavista

Silver Centurion has almost same utility with better damage
Silver Centurion does have better damage but he doesn’t have the same utility as Sam such as -100% offensive ability accuracy into block while bulwark is active, the miss counter with lock on, parrying non contact attacks with armor ups, autoblock vs specials, etc.

Ironheart is the better comparison to Sam, right down to be able to apply rupture debuffs. The difference is that Sam skews more defensive minded while Ironheart skews more offensive minded.

Regardless, I don’t particularly either’s timer based playstyles.

smdam38

Just got him from back to back crystals ☹️. Its not that he's terrible, there are just better tech champs to use before I even consider using him

Who are the better techs?

smdam38

I love Sam, I have mine r3! Is he the hardest hitting champ, no definitely not. But I enjoy his combo of utility and it’s serviced me well in fights. I got to use him recently against both the Jabari Panther and Prowler EOP fights, as he was an objective champ but also his kit worked well for both. He’s not for everyone but he’s definitely for me

I disagree with the comparison to Silver Cent from above though. They’re both tech that don’t crit, and have some power drain mechanics, but otherwise Sam is anti Miss, anti prowess (not removal, but cowardice), anti offensive ability accuracy, anti getting hit by specials. He is also one of the few non metal techs, which comes in handy against things like Magnetos and Onslaughts. Cent is anti evade and unstoppable, a heal blocker, passive DOT focused, and has a couple of immunities. I use both, but usually not in overlapping areas.

Anazing writeup.

Let’s Sam together and eff these other guys.

smdam38

Silver Centurion has almost same utility with better damage
Silver Centurion does have better damage but he doesn’t have the same utility as Sam such as -100% offensive ability accuracy into block while bulwark is active, the miss counter with lock on, parrying non contact attacks with armor ups, autoblock vs specials, etc.

Ridiculous take. Sam eats champs easy with one sp 2.
Please tell me a better tech champion.

Magrailothos

Silver Centurion has almost same utility with better damage
Silver Centurion does have better damage but he doesn’t have the same utility as Sam such as -100% offensive ability accuracy into block while bulwark is active, the miss counter with lock on, parrying non contact attacks with armor ups, autoblock vs specials, etc.
Ridiculous take. Sam eats champs easy with one sp 2.
Please tell me a better tech champion.

That's really not hard. If you just want to kill things quickly, better Tech champions would be:

- Guardian
- Hulkbuster
- Classic Iron Man
- Shocker
- Prowler

If you want more utility and damage:
- Ironheart does basically everything Sam does, but better.
- Viv Vision has immunities, power control and phase; and she can finish most fights faster than Sam, on 100% health
- Omega Sentinel packs a bigger punch and has different but equally versatile utility
- Future Ant-Man

shield311

Silver Centurion has almost same utility with better damage
Silver Centurion does have better damage but he doesn’t have the same utility as Sam such as -100% offensive ability accuracy into block while bulwark is active, the miss counter with lock on, parrying non contact attacks with armor ups, autoblock vs specials, etc.
Ridiculous take. Sam eats champs easy with one sp 2.
Please tell me a better tech champion.

Prowler
Shocker
IronHeart
Nimrod
Sentinel
Warlock
Fantman
Viv
Omega Sent
Ghost
Hulkbuster
Iron Man
Guardian
Starky
Idoom
G99
HTD
Doc Oct
Peni
War Machine
Red Skull
Shuri
LDS (maybe)
Ultron

all of the above mentioned are unarguable BETTER tech attackers generally, and if you want better defenders that are not listed above then just throw in the remaining techs, Arcade, Mysterio

shield311

so congrats your goat is better than, Kang, Ultron (Classic), Vision, Psycho Man, Iron Patriot, Green Goblin, Yondu? and listing others is just a waste of time so you get it, and mostly probably rocket and p99 are also better attackers while darkhawk is a better defender so yeah..

Rookie_Devil

so congrats your goat is better than, Kang, Ultron (Classic), Vision, Psycho Man, Iron Patriot, Green Goblin, Yondu? and listing others is just a waste of time so you get it, and mostly probably rocket and p99 are also better attackers while darkhawk is a better defender so yeah..

P99 is one of the best tech attackers

shield311

so congrats your goat is better than, Kang, Ultron (Classic), Vision, Psycho Man, Iron Patriot, Green Goblin, Yondu? and listing others is just a waste of time so you get it, and mostly probably rocket and p99 are also better attackers while darkhawk is a better defender so yeah..
P99 is one of the best tech attackers

bro finally made a forum account 🗣️🗣️

Chilling421

Just got him from back to back crystals ☹️. Its not that he's terrible, there are just better tech champs to use before I even consider using him
Who are the better techs?

Nimrod
Warlock
Og Ironman
Ironheart
Hulkbuster
Shocker
Peni
Prowler
Guardian
I can list more but that's really not my point. Like I said, he's not terribly. There are just better options