Attention: KABAM

ShodaiHighkageShodaiHighkage Member Posts: 127
edited December 22 in General Discussion
As you can check, I started just before banquet in 2022. I truly can't even remember that first banquet, I probably had 3* champs at max and it wasn't impactful or relevant to me being too new to the game to have an opinion on the event.

2023 was my first banquet in which I participated. For a year I kept hearing about how positively legendary this event was and that I should save for it because the rewards have always been epic. I spent $450 during banquet last year and heavily considered refunding through my credit card company after the massive disappointment.

After we all voiced our displeasure, your response was, "we hear you and we will do better." How is this the end result of you hearing us? You should have listened as opposed to just hearing us. This event for 2024 somehow eclipsed last year's event for disappointment and I didn't even spend on this banquet! I did save units up from spending/grinding throughout the year and wasted 24k units, but I didn't spend a single dollar for the event and I STILL want a refund lol.

This is all to say that I'm confident when I speak for anyone who started the game within the last two years; you have created an entirely different perspective for us than what has existed for veteran players. For them, this is a disappointment because they know how good it used to be. For us new players this is the standard and there is absolutely no reason for us to ever show interest in this event moving forward.

You sorely need to rethink your approach to fixing this debacle because it's going to cost you a lot more money than you expect.
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  • ShodaiHighkageShodaiHighkage Member Posts: 127
    edited December 22

    Yea I’m in the same spot as you. I came back to the game in March 2023 as a conqueror so when 2023 banquet came around it was the first one I had participated in. People were definitely disappointed, and I had a hard time understanding why banquet was rated so highly as an event.

    Fast forward to now and it’s legit the exact same lol

    Yeah, and if they drastically improve the event next year, that still won't do anything to change my mind because I'm decidedly not participating next year lol. They made their bed and I'm definitely not sleeping in it.
  • Nemesis_17Nemesis_17 Member Posts: 2,515 ★★★★★
    edited December 22

    Yea I’m in the same spot as you. I came back to the game in March 2023 as a conqueror so when 2023 banquet came around it was the first one I had participated in. People were definitely disappointed, and I had a hard time understanding why banquet was rated so highly as an event.

    Fast forward to now and it’s legit the exact same lol

    Yeah, and if they drastically improve the event next year, that still won't do anything to change my mind because I'm decidedly not participating next year lol. They made their bed and I'm definitely not sleeping in it.
    Yea I don’t see myself holding my units for banquet next year, cyber got me a lot of guaranteed value with 0 rng
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,942 ★★★★★
    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..
  • Alone13Alone13 Member Posts: 61

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    he didnt say he liked 2023 banquit, he said he heard positively about banquit
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,942 ★★★★★
    edited December 22
    Alone13 said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    he didnt say he liked 2023 banquit, he said he heard positively about banquit
    So he spent 450 bucks on something he didn't like... 🙄 And refunded after lol...anyone would have noticed how bad it was at 50$
  • ShodaiHighkageShodaiHighkage Member Posts: 127



    2023 was my first banquet in which I participated. For a year I kept hearing about how positively legendary this event was and that I should save for it because the rewards have always been epic. I spent $450 during banquet last year and heavily considered refunding through my credit card company after the massive disappointment.

    I need someone to explain this kind of post to me. I get that the banquet didn't meet people's expectations (mine as well, which is why I only did enough to help my alliance), but you can see what you were getting in the drop rates. So why would you refund, especially through your credit card? Simply because you didn't like the pulls you got?
    Well, I didn't refund, did I? But I can try to explain why I considered it. Dropping $450 was my lil holiday gift to myself and like most of us, last year's banquet was completely underwhelming if not a complete dud. After that, I considered just quitting the game and refunding the holiday gift money and using it towards something that would feel like, idk... A gift? Unfortunately, I opted to remain playing the game. I honestly should have just quit, but here we are.

    As far as checking the drop rates; I grind a decent amount of arenas and so exhausting my units for the event was the plan for the alliance rank rewards mostly, but also to do my part for the realm event.

    I didn't even check the rates and dumped 23k into the "Grand" banquet event's Inferior Banquet Crystal . I guess I had too much faith in Kabam and that's my mistake. I won't be repeating it.

    Can I ask when you started playing? Everyone I've talked to that has been here for ≤2 years seems to agree with me on the outlook of future banquets holding absolutely zero value or interest. This thread was intended to provide perspective for kabam from newer players such as myself. I have no concept of a good banquet event and aside from casual players who might advance at lower progressions, these events have been a joke to those of us who made valiant fairly quickly and saw the miniscule ROI on SBCs.

    If you had an awesome banquet I'm happy for you, but read the room: you're an anomaly.
  • ShodaiHighkageShodaiHighkage Member Posts: 127

    Alone13 said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    he didnt say he liked 2023 banquit, he said he heard positively about banquit
    So he spent 450 bucks on something he didn't like... 🙄 And refunded after lol...anyone would have noticed how bad it was at 50$
    I did not refund. Lol please work on your reading comprehension before commenting. Thank you.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,942 ★★★★★

    Alone13 said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    he didnt say he liked 2023 banquit, he said he heard positively about banquit
    So he spent 450 bucks on something he didn't like... 🙄 And refunded after lol...anyone would have noticed how bad it was at 50$
    I did not refund. Lol please work on your reading comprehension before commenting. Thank you.
    Well then you spent 450$ on something "you didn't like"... I read in segments cause you liked 2023, should have stopped there. You guys baited me into reading 2 or 3 more sentences. Well done.
  • ShodaiHighkageShodaiHighkage Member Posts: 127

    I spent $450 during banquet last year and heavily considered refunding through my credit card company after the massive disappointment.

    Alone13 said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    he didnt say he liked 2023 banquit, he said he heard positively about banquit
    So he spent 450 bucks on something he didn't like... 🙄 And refunded after lol...anyone would have noticed how bad it was at 50$
  • ShodaiHighkageShodaiHighkage Member Posts: 127
    nferno said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    Lol You didn’t read at all apparently
    Idk why he is like this.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,942 ★★★★★

    nferno said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    Lol You didn’t read at all apparently
    Idk why he is like this.
    I'm sorry you are right, I am just pissed at this event.
    Its not you its me
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 5,009 ★★★★★



    2023 was my first banquet in which I participated. For a year I kept hearing about how positively legendary this event was and that I should save for it because the rewards have always been epic. I spent $450 during banquet last year and heavily considered refunding through my credit card company after the massive disappointment.

    I need someone to explain this kind of post to me. I get that the banquet didn't meet people's expectations (mine as well, which is why I only did enough to help my alliance), but you can see what you were getting in the drop rates. So why would you refund, especially through your credit card? Simply because you didn't like the pulls you got?
    Well, I didn't refund, did I? But I can try to explain why I considered it. Dropping $450 was my lil holiday gift to myself and like most of us, last year's banquet was completely underwhelming if not a complete dud. After that, I considered just quitting the game and refunding the holiday gift money and using it towards something that would feel like, idk... A gift? Unfortunately, I opted to remain playing the game. I honestly should have just quit, but here we are.

    As far as checking the drop rates; I grind a decent amount of arenas and so exhausting my units for the event was the plan for the alliance rank rewards mostly, but also to do my part for the realm event.

    I didn't even check the rates and dumped 23k into the "Grand" banquet event's Inferior Banquet Crystal . I guess I had too much faith in Kabam and that's my mistake. I won't be repeating it.

    Can I ask when you started playing? Everyone I've talked to that has been here for ≤2 years seems to agree with me on the outlook of future banquets holding absolutely zero value or interest. This thread was intended to provide perspective for kabam from newer players such as myself. I have no concept of a good banquet event and aside from casual players who might advance at lower progressions, these events have been a joke to those of us who made valiant fairly quickly and saw the miniscule ROI on SBCs.

    If you had an awesome banquet I'm happy for you, but read the room: you're an anomaly.
    I started playing eight years ago for about six months, quit and returned about four years ago. My first banquet was great, as I got a six star that I had no business having, and helped me progress a to ton. After that, the banquets have been underwhelming, so I typically only spend to help my alliance reach whatever milestones they need.

    I just don't get the part of considering a refund though. I would never walk into a casino, spend xx amount of money, and then ask for my money back because I didn't like what I got. Which is essential what the crystals are for banquet - a gamble. But at least you know the drop rates and you know exactly what your getting for the milestones.
  • ShodaiHighkageShodaiHighkage Member Posts: 127
    edited December 22



    2023 was my first banquet in which I participated. For a year I kept hearing about how positively legendary this event was and that I should save for it because the rewards have always been epic. I spent $450 during banquet last year and heavily considered refunding through my credit card company after the massive disappointment.

    I need someone to explain this kind of post to me. I get that the banquet didn't meet people's expectations (mine as well, which is why I only did enough to help my alliance), but you can see what you were getting in the drop rates. So why would you refund, especially through your credit card? Simply because you didn't like the pulls you got?
    Well, I didn't refund, did I? But I can try to explain why I considered it. Dropping $450 was my lil holiday gift to myself and like most of us, last year's banquet was completely underwhelming if not a complete dud. After that, I considered just quitting the game and refunding the holiday gift money and using it towards something that would feel like, idk... A gift? Unfortunately, I opted to remain playing the game. I honestly should have just quit, but here we are.

    As far as checking the drop rates; I grind a decent amount of arenas and so exhausting my units for the event was the plan for the alliance rank rewards mostly, but also to do my part for the realm event.

    I didn't even check the rates and dumped 23k into the "Grand" banquet event's Inferior Banquet Crystal . I guess I had too much faith in Kabam and that's my mistake. I won't be repeating it.

    Can I ask when you started playing? Everyone I've talked to that has been here for ≤2 years seems to agree with me on the outlook of future banquets holding absolutely zero value or interest. This thread was intended to provide perspective for kabam from newer players such as myself. I have no concept of a good banquet event and aside from casual players who might advance at lower progressions, these events have been a joke to those of us who made valiant fairly quickly and saw the miniscule ROI on SBCs.

    If you had an awesome banquet I'm happy for you, but read the room: you're an anomaly.
    I started playing eight years ago for about six months, quit and returned about four years ago. My first banquet was great, as I got a six star that I had no business having, and helped me progress a to ton. After that, the banquets have been underwhelming, so I typically only spend to help my alliance reach whatever milestones they need.

    I just don't get the part of considering a refund though. I would never walk into a casino, spend xx amount of money, and then ask for my money back because I didn't like what I got. Which is essential what the crystals are for banquet - a gamble. But at least you know the drop rates and you know exactly what your getting for the milestones.
    Right, and like I said... That was my mistake to trust that Kabam would deliver after telling us they wouldn't make the same mistake twice. I fully understand that the overall arching event included the 10 7* along with other content.

    However, they hyped the Grand Banquet event up unnecessarily just to underperform. I'm disappointed, but I do appreciate what Kabam does. They made a good game that you can either spend or grind to get near the top end accounts so it's not completely p2w as anyone who's taken down a whale in BGs knows. It's a decent balance. But this Grand banquet? It's an L. Even with the new adjustments. The overall event is great and no one denies that, in their right mind. The "grand" banquet event specifically has failed colossally. It was intended to be well received and it's either a joke or a source of negativity in the forums. You see people angry, upset, lashing out, etc. No matter how you slice it, this is indefensible. If you wanted to hype the event, you should have allocated funds for it and given out less 7* to paragon+ or none at all.

    I don't think anyone at valiant was over the top excited to get the majority of these champs. A new paragon that rushed to get the 10? Most definitely. But for valiant players, this was a huge L two years running. I was paragon last year and banquet didn't give me valiant by a long shot. If they continue neglecting the people at the top, they'll only have the mega whales to thank in future banquets.

    Funny enough, I probably would have dropped at least another $450 on banquet on top of the 23k units that I already committed to banquet before it started but there's nothing they could put in them that would make me pay anything towards this banquet. They already said that the only thing they could do, they won't. So it's inconceivable that they'd add anything better than the bare minimum of improving the SBC. I understand why they can't, but that's the focal point. That's the issue with this event and I don't envy their Monday morning meetings trying to scramble to save this.

    In my opinion, if they simultaneously lowered the milestone requirements and once again improved them, we'd see a lot more positive feedback from the community. It would incentivize people to buy more terrible crystals just for the milestones and acknowledge that these are filler items just towards working for realm milestones. Lowering the minimum thresholds for these rewards would also immediately qualify people for rewards tiers they hadn't yet achieved, which might incentivize those who did already spend to maybe push a little more for their alliance or realm milestones. Improving them also works towards that goal. Adding new rewards tiers would help but I don't think they can afford it, tbh.

    I think they messed up pretty bad trying to hype this upcoming gift as well. They didn't learn a thing. Don't hype this up because the track record has been abysmal.
  • ShodaiHighkageShodaiHighkage Member Posts: 127

    nferno said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    Lol You didn’t read at all apparently
    Idk why he is like this.
    I'm sorry you are right, I am just pissed at this event.
    Its not you its me
    I get it man, no worries. This event has everyone anything but happy.
  • Lost____oneLost____one Member Posts: 12
    It would be a new low to have the Christmas gift .... or a claim it is " buffed" as compensation for the banquet.
  • Shadow_ShooterShadow_Shooter Member Posts: 438 ★★★
    all of the community is disappointed and that’s all i got to say.
  • CandyCane2CandyCane2 Member Posts: 379 ★★

    nferno said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    Lol You didn’t read at all apparently
    Idk why he is like this.
    I'm sorry you are right, I am just pissed at this event.
    Its not you its me
    I get it man, no worries. This event has everyone anything but happy.
    I don’t know about you all, but I’m pretty happy about this event. The crystals are really good for me. The gold, the iso, and the rewards. I’m really impressed and this made my Christmas even better!
  • Shadow_ShooterShadow_Shooter Member Posts: 438 ★★★
    edited December 23

    nferno said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    Lol You didn’t read at all apparently
    Idk why he is like this.
    I'm sorry you are right, I am just pissed at this event.
    Its not you its me
    I get it man, no worries. This event has everyone anything but happy.
    I don’t know about you all, but I’m pretty happy about this event. The crystals are really good for me. The gold, the iso, and the rewards. I’m really impressed and this made my Christmas even better!
    you’re the only one happy about it and we can clearly see it from multiple messages you post in each and every thread about banquet. it was hard to miss, to say the least. hope you get a better hobby or much better hope you’re getting paid for it, i know you arent.
  • CandyCane2CandyCane2 Member Posts: 379 ★★

    nferno said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    Lol You didn’t read at all apparently
    Idk why he is like this.
    I'm sorry you are right, I am just pissed at this event.
    Its not you its me
    I get it man, no worries. This event has everyone anything but happy.
    I don’t know about you all, but I’m pretty happy about this event. The crystals are really good for me. The gold, the iso, and the rewards. I’m really impressed and this made my Christmas even better!
    you’re the only one happy about it and we can clearly see it from multiple messages you post in each and every thread about banquet. it was hard to miss, to say the least. hope you get a better hoby or much better hope you’re getting paid for it, i know you arent.
    I am not trying to get attention, and I’m not being payed. I’m really impressed and want to give my opinion on it. Merry Christmas everyone!!
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  • UnyonfaceUnyonface Member Posts: 640 ★★★

    nferno said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    Lol You didn’t read at all apparently
    Idk why he is like this.
    I'm sorry you are right, I am just pissed at this event.
    Its not you its me
    I get it man, no worries. This event has everyone anything but happy.
    I don’t know about you all, but I’m pretty happy about this event. The crystals are really good for me. The gold, the iso, and the rewards. I’m really impressed and this made my Christmas even better!
    you’re the only one happy about it and we can clearly see it from multiple messages you post in each and every thread about banquet. it was hard to miss, to say the least. hope you get a better hoby or much better hope you’re getting paid for it, i know you arent.
    Nope, I’m good with what I spent as well got JJ and tons of rank up material, enough for 4 R3 7* champs.

  • Shadow_ShooterShadow_Shooter Member Posts: 438 ★★★
    Unyonface said:

    nferno said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    Lol You didn’t read at all apparently
    Idk why he is like this.
    I'm sorry you are right, I am just pissed at this event.
    Its not you its me
    I get it man, no worries. This event has everyone anything but happy.
    I don’t know about you all, but I’m pretty happy about this event. The crystals are really good for me. The gold, the iso, and the rewards. I’m really impressed and this made my Christmas even better!
    you’re the only one happy about it and we can clearly see it from multiple messages you post in each and every thread about banquet. it was hard to miss, to say the least. hope you get a better hoby or much better hope you’re getting paid for it, i know you arent.
    Nope, I’m good with what I spent as well got JJ and tons of rank up material, enough for 4 R3 7* champs.

    Thanks for representing 0.03% of the players.
  • ShodaiHighkageShodaiHighkage Member Posts: 127
    Unyonface said:

    Nope, I’m good with what I spent as well got JJ and tons of rank up material, enough for 4 R3 7* champs.

    I am not trying to get attention, and I’m not being payed. I’m really impressed and want to give my opinion on it. Merry Christmas everyone!!

    If you had an awesome banquet I'm happy for you, but read the room: you're an anomaly.

  • ShodaiHighkageShodaiHighkage Member Posts: 127

    Unyonface said:

    nferno said:

    You liked 2023 which was pretty bad...stopped reading there..

    Lol You didn’t read at all apparently
    Idk why he is like this.
    I'm sorry you are right, I am just pissed at this event.
    Its not you its me
    I get it man, no worries. This event has everyone anything but happy.
    I don’t know about you all, but I’m pretty happy about this event. The crystals are really good for me. The gold, the iso, and the rewards. I’m really impressed and this made my Christmas even better!
    you’re the only one happy about it and we can clearly see it from multiple messages you post in each and every thread about banquet. it was hard to miss, to say the least. hope you get a better hoby or much better hope you’re getting paid for it, i know you arent.
    Nope, I’m good with what I spent as well got JJ and tons of rank up material, enough for 4 R3 7* champs.

    Thanks for representing 0.03% of the players.
    Yeah, these exceptions think they're representative of the community lol
  • FishSkinFishSkin Member Posts: 39
    Over 7,000,000 crystals opened, and more being opened every hour.

    Yes, some of you are upset you haven't been able to participate as much as you'd like. And, yes, some of you are upset with the rewards from your limited contribution. Neither of those things constitute your beliefs that you can speak for Veteran players, or that this has somehow been the catalyst for MCOC's demise.

    Again, over 7,000,000 crystals already opened... the evidence is in the numbers, not your emotional responses, or personal feelings.
  • Sirius0130Sirius0130 Member Posts: 133
    There was nothing wrong with the banquet all the whiners are the normal self entitled simps.
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