we expected a pie for banquet but we got a ticket instead (which comes with a free pie!) but everyone's crying over getting a ticket and moaning how they can't eat the ticket. BUT IT COMES WITH A PIE! YOU CAN EAT THAT, CAN'T YOU?
There is no point in doing more than your minimum
unfortunately yes, there's minimal value past the milestones. it sucks but maybe we should also put the pitchforks down?
Not sure why giving the team valid constructive feedback they asked for is being categorized as “pitchforks”.
I could counter propose you do the same. What’s the point of screaming into the wind about milestones on multiple threads today?
startropics does NOT wanna get off Kabam's D.😝💀 Crashed ain't giving you an autograph bud, simply swallow your ego and accept that your singular opinion does not overshadow the facts and the experience of thousands of others.
I'm at 20,300 points currently, 14,400 units spent, with enough units to hit all the stretch goals Problem is I'm waiting for the realm, the banquet crystal drop rate ain't helping to fuel a self sustaining crystal opening mania Other than a 7* nexus crystal, the rest I got were similar to everyone else
we expected a pie for banquet but we got a ticket instead (which comes with a free pie!) but everyone's crying over getting a ticket and moaning how they can't eat the ticket. BUT IT COMES WITH A PIE! YOU CAN EAT THAT, CAN'T YOU?
There is no point in doing more than your minimum
unfortunately yes, there's minimal value past the milestones. it sucks but maybe we should also put the pitchforks down?
Ok Milestone Genius, care to explain something to me?... If this milestones are so great, explain to me why i spent over 20k units in past banquets and in 2023/2024 I decided to do the minimum to clear to milestones only?... Is it because I am satisfied with the milestones or because the crystals are trash and I rather not spend my units? 20k+ units in past years was not even whale level; but I spent them...now I'm sitting on 15K i don't even want to use... Are you one of those F2P players that constantly complains about the gap between spenders and F2P and that's why you like this structure so much? Maybe you should let everyone with a pitchfork do whatever they want, I mean there is not much people backing up Kabam on this one...
there's no denying it, the crystals ARE trash....to you, me, and probably everyone else, but the milestones are great, so don't go past the milestones. why are we complicating things? go where the value is...
if you're upset that you can't spend on more SBCs, i get it, but that's how they designed the event. but we're still getting a bunch of good stuff for relatively good value.
take a step back and look at as a whole. y'all mad about the packaging and not its contents. the contents are good and they're there...
we expected a pie for banquet but we got a ticket instead (which comes with a free pie!) but everyone's crying over getting a ticket and moaning how they can't eat the ticket. BUT IT COMES WITH A PIE! YOU CAN EAT THAT, CAN'T YOU?
There is no point in doing more than your minimum
unfortunately yes, there's minimal value past the milestones. it sucks but maybe we should also put the pitchforks down?
Ok Milestone Genius, care to explain something to me?... If this milestones are so great, explain to me why i spent over 20k units in past banquets and in 2023/2024 I decided to do the minimum to clear to milestones only?... Is it because I am satisfied with the milestones or because the crystals are trash and I rather not spend my units? 20k+ units in past years was not even whale level; but I spent them...now I'm sitting on 15K i don't even want to use... Are you one of those F2P players that constantly complains about the gap between spenders and F2P and that's why you like this structure so much? Maybe you should let everyone with a pitchfork do whatever they want, I mean there is not much people backing up Kabam on this one...
there's no denying it, the crystals ARE trash....to you, me, and probably everyone else, but the milestones are great, so don't go past the milestones. why are we complicating things? go where the value is...
if you're upset that you can't spend on more SBCs, i get it, but that's how they designed the event. but we're still getting a bunch of good stuff for relatively good value.
take a step back and look at as a whole. y'all mad about the packaging and not its contents. the contents are good and they're there...
There was 2 pages of complaints.. you complained about all the people complaining... Who exactly is this "everyone else"? I am sitting at 29k Points and 15k units. Any more assumptions?
I didn’t make a graph, but I can say that at 17,900 pts, I’ve gotten nothing monumental. No 7 stars, titans, or keys. Best things I got was enough fragments to make about 1.5 T4A and I got 500 awakening shards 2 times. Nothing else from my 300 unit Valiant crystals.
startropics does NOT wanna get off Kabam's D.😝💀 Crashed ain't giving you an autograph bud, simply swallow your ego and accept that your singular opinion does not overshadow the facts and the experience of thousands of others.
it's not an opinion. the SBCs are piss poor value and the milestones are great. kabam should have done a better job at messaging.
but this is about hurt feelings more than anything else. the community is mad that kabam didn't "ask nicely", "come correct", or to "their liking", in a manner that would comfort their fee-fees to the maximum extend possible. and since that didn't happen we get the same clueless ignorant mob mentality that we've always gotten.
startropics does NOT wanna get off Kabam's D.😝💀 Crashed ain't giving you an autograph bud, simply swallow your ego and accept that your singular opinion does not overshadow the facts and the experience of thousands of others.
it's not an opinion. the SBCs are piss poor value and the milestones are great. kabam should have done a better job at messaging.
but this is about hurt feelings more than anything else. the community is mad that kabam didn't "ask nicely", "come correct", or to "their liking", in a manner that would comfort their fee-fees to the maximum extend possible. and since that didn't happen we get the same clueless ignorant mob mentality that we've always gotten.
is 1000+ FUs to dave "constructive criticism"?
I mean by better job at messaging, you mean not spend 3 months hyping these trash crystals up? Not purposefully misleading us by saying it’s only 50% filler? Or tell us that it’s all 7star relevant but in irrelevant quantities?
startropics does NOT wanna get off Kabam's D.😝💀 Crashed ain't giving you an autograph bud, simply swallow your ego and accept that your singular opinion does not overshadow the facts and the experience of thousands of others.
it's not an opinion. the SBCs are piss poor value and the milestones are great. kabam should have done a better job at messaging.
but this is about hurt feelings more than anything else. the community is mad that kabam didn't "ask nicely", "come correct", or to "their liking", in a manner that would comfort their fee-fees to the maximum extend possible. and since that didn't happen we get the same clueless ignorant mob mentality that we've always gotten.
is 1000+ FUs to dave "constructive criticism"?
I mean by better job at messaging, you mean not spend 3 months hyping these trash crystals up? Not purposefully misleading us by saying it’s only 50% filler? Or tell us that it’s all 7star relevant but in irrelevant quantities?
a reasonable person would see or feel the droprates then understand the value in the milestones and get over it, but some of these people don't care.
the community wants blood and acts as if they've been deeply wronged on such a cosmic scale that that no amount of contrition by kabam could ever make up for it.
it's irrational online cancel culture behavior and gross and they should grow the hell up imo.
i'm not referring to you bigblue, but to others...nobody was "wronged", the event is fine, nobody is forcing you to spend, you're grown ass person with a mind of your own, now stop pretending to be a victim and get over it.
Bought like another 50 of those SBC..only 3000 ⁷ stars and 1000 Titan shards.97% of those were rank up materials.My ⁷stars crystals haven't been too thrilling neither..Latest has been White Tiger, Duped Patriot Sam Wilson, Duped Gambit..and Wiccon Duped from the milestone Nexus crystal. Out of an selection of Howard the duck and duping my Red Goblin.
Bought like another 50 of those SBC..only 3000 ⁷ stars and 1000 Titan shards.97% of those were rank up materials.My ⁷stars crystals haven't been too thrilling neither..Latest has been White Tiger, Duped Patriot Sam Wilson, Duped Gambit..and Wiccon Duped from the milestone Nexus crystal. Out of an selection of Howard the duck and duping my Red Goblin.
I still struggle to see the value even in the milestones
for 15k..
60k 7* shards 5k titan shards enough t4 alpha for 2 r3s... 3 7* glorious guardian champs (some who are very good) 7* glorious guardians awakening gem 70 7* glorious guardians sig stones 30 7* generic sigs 1-2 generic bunch of necessary catalysts (t6c, t5c, t6b, t3a) 7* isophyne
plus....2 more 7* basics and a 7* nexus
plus whatever you pulled from those SBCs, which is a cherry on top.
for 15k this is very solid. how much would just a 2-3 generic gem cost with units 5 weeks ago?
So, we are talking of 5 odin's or 500$.
The 7* shards - good ( RNG again) T4 alpha - good Titan shards 5k - not good Glorious games champs/ awakening gem/ sig stones - not good or good ( depends if you really like any of them or roster is limited ) 1-2 genric - bad SBC - do I really need to?
Without actually going over the quantity of rewards lets analyse the quality for 5 Odin's worth and then decide...( Also don't compare it to cyber weekend or add the 10*10 supply drop etc. Just as a stand alone event)
I still struggle to see the value even in the milestones
for 15k..
60k 7* shards 5k titan shards enough t4 alpha for 2 r3s... 3 7* glorious guardian champs (some who are very good) 7* glorious guardians awakening gem 70 7* glorious guardians sig stones 30 7* generic sigs 1-2 generic bunch of necessary catalysts (t6c, t5c, t6b, t3a) 7* isophyne
plus....2 more 7* basics and a 7* nexus
plus whatever you pulled from those SBCs, which is a cherry on top.
for 15k this is very solid. how much would just a 2-3 generic gem cost with units 5 weeks ago?
So, we are talking of 5 odin's or 500$.
The 7* shards - good ( RNG again) T4 alpha - good Titan shards 5k - not good Glorious games champs/ awakening gem/ sig stones - not good or good ( depends if you really like any of them or roster is limited ) 1-2 genric - bad SBC - do I really need to?
Without actually going over the quantity of rewards lets analyse the quality for 5 Odin's worth and then decide...( Also don't compare it to cyber weekend or add the 10*10 supply drop etc. Just as a stand alone event)
we're gonna compare it to cyber weekend because it was 3 weeks apart...
i am too lazy to do the work and come up with the exact differences because nobody wants to listen, but look at it, the banquet is much better.
there's a lot more materials in the banquet milestones than these 3 items in green shown below and they both cost 15k units. banquet technically costs less than 14k...
it's not even close. banquet blows it away...
edit: and also we can't just buy the bottom tier on cyber we have to spend so it's even more expensive
I still struggle to see the value even in the milestones
for 15k..
60k 7* shards 5k titan shards enough t4 alpha for 2 r3s... 3 7* glorious guardian champs (some who are very good) 7* glorious guardians awakening gem 70 7* glorious guardians sig stones 30 7* generic sigs 1-2 generic bunch of necessary catalysts (t6c, t5c, t6b, t3a) 7* isophyne
plus....2 more 7* basics and a 7* nexus
plus whatever you pulled from those SBCs, which is a cherry on top.
for 15k this is very solid. how much would just a 2-3 generic gem cost with units 5 weeks ago?
So, we are talking of 5 odin's or 500$.
The 7* shards - good ( RNG again) T4 alpha - good Titan shards 5k - not good Glorious games champs/ awakening gem/ sig stones - not good or good ( depends if you really like any of them or roster is limited ) 1-2 genric - bad SBC - do I really need to?
Without actually going over the quantity of rewards lets analyse the quality for 5 Odin's worth and then decide...( Also don't compare it to cyber weekend or add the 10*10 supply drop etc. Just as a stand alone event)
we're gonna compare it to cyber weekend because it was 3 weeks apart...
i am too lazy to do the work and come up with the exact differences because nobody wants to listen, but look at it, the banquet is much better.
there's a lot more materials in the banquet milestones than these 3 items in green shown below and they both cost 15k units. banquet technically costs less than 14k...
it's not even close. banquet blows it away...
edit: and also we can't just buy the bottom tier on cyber we have to spend so it's even more expensive
I’m not necessarily commenting on the banquet event - but just correcting you on cyber weekend.
You could’ve actually got 2 of the 3rd deal in tier two and 1 of the 2nd deal in tier 3. - this would cost 13k units and for that you get … - enough to r3 3x 7 star champs and a 7 star champ selector?!
I still struggle to see the value even in the milestones
for 15k..
60k 7* shards 5k titan shards enough t4 alpha for 2 r3s... 3 7* glorious guardian champs (some who are very good) 7* glorious guardians awakening gem 70 7* glorious guardians sig stones 30 7* generic sigs 1-2 generic bunch of necessary catalysts (t6c, t5c, t6b, t3a) 7* isophyne
plus....2 more 7* basics and a 7* nexus
plus whatever you pulled from those SBCs, which is a cherry on top.
for 15k this is very solid. how much would just a 2-3 generic gem cost with units 5 weeks ago?
So, we are talking of 5 odin's or 500$.
The 7* shards - good ( RNG again) T4 alpha - good Titan shards 5k - not good Glorious games champs/ awakening gem/ sig stones - not good or good ( depends if you really like any of them or roster is limited ) 1-2 genric - bad SBC - do I really need to?
Without actually going over the quantity of rewards lets analyse the quality for 5 Odin's worth and then decide...( Also don't compare it to cyber weekend or add the 10*10 supply drop etc. Just as a stand alone event)
we're gonna compare it to cyber weekend because it was 3 weeks apart...
i am too lazy to do the work and come up with the exact differences because nobody wants to listen, but look at it, the banquet is much better.
there's a lot more materials in the banquet milestones than these 3 items in green shown below and they both cost 15k units. banquet technically costs less than 14k...
it's not even close. banquet blows it away...
edit: and also we can't just buy the bottom tier on cyber we have to spend so it's even more expensive
I’m not necessarily commenting on the banquet event - but just correcting you on cyber weekend.
You could’ve actually got 2 of the 3rd deal in tier two and 1 of the 2nd deal in tier 3. - this would cost 13k units and for that you get … - enough to r3 3x 7 star champs and a 7 star champ selector?!
A much better deal in my opinion?!
we couldn't pick and choose from each tier, we had to unlock them first (look at the text to the right the of "tiers").
we had to spend 5k units just to unlock tier 2 and 15k to unlock tier 3. if you want the 2023 selector deal in tier 3 it's going to cost 20k units.
which ones would you have picked?
4th offer in t1 (7* basic, 10x sigs) x2 for 5000? 3rd offer in t2 x 2 for 8000?
startropics does NOT wanna get off Kabam's D.😝💀 Crashed ain't giving you an autograph bud, simply swallow your ego and accept that your singular opinion does not overshadow the facts and the experience of thousands of others.
it's not an opinion. the SBCs are piss poor value and the milestones are great. kabam should have done a better job at messaging.
but this is about hurt feelings more than anything else. the community is mad that kabam didn't "ask nicely", "come correct", or to "their liking", in a manner that would comfort their fee-fees to the maximum extend possible. and since that didn't happen we get the same clueless ignorant mob mentality that we've always gotten.
is 1000+ FUs to dave "constructive criticism"?
I mean by better job at messaging, you mean not spend 3 months hyping these trash crystals up? Not purposefully misleading us by saying it’s only 50% filler? Or tell us that it’s all 7star relevant but in irrelevant quantities?
a reasonable person would see or feel the droprates then understand the value in the milestones and get over it, but some of these people don't care.
the community wants blood and acts as if they've been deeply wronged on such a cosmic scale that that no amount of contrition by kabam could ever make up for it.
it's irrational online cancel culture behavior and gross and they should grow the hell up imo.
i'm not referring to you bigblue, but to others...nobody was "wronged", the event is fine, nobody is forcing you to spend, you're grown ass person with a mind of your own, now stop pretending to be a victim and get over it.
Even the drop rates are misleading though. The crystal says 10% chance to get signature stones… so they made it 2…
13% chance to get 7star shards but the amounts vary and can be as low as 1k.
I’m not saying I agree with those that are proclaiming we were cosmically wronged. But Kabam has been like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown on this one with the way they obfuscated and continue to do with this event.
They may not have outright lied, but good liars can use the truth to do it, and that’s what this feels like. Nobody like to be lied too and the team did exactly that through half truths and wordplay.
I get that you think pointing at the milestones makes you seem like the rational port on a storm of irrational outrage… but I think you are under valuing the righteous anger of those that legitimately feel tricked. It seems like we don’t disagree to much on that point about the crystals being horrible. I just think you are overvaluing the milestones, while you think me and others disappointed are undervaluing them.
Sure they are ok… but this is a game… and this event is not fun because of this poorly designed crystal. And then you go back review the messaging leading up to the event and it just feels gross and the journey to get those milestones feels gross and slimey every time you open a crystal. Personally I rate this event as worse than last years
I’m glad I couldn’t log on when banquet started. By the time I did, many were complaining the crystals were trash. I opened enough to get the deathless piece. Now I’m sitting back and waiting to see if the realm milestones are hit. I’m sure I’m not the only one.
And as far as the rewards I have already gotten, I have t3a and t6b overflowing now. It’s so annoying to keep getting these when we can’t even sell them. I’m going to have to use it to rank up some champs that I have no desire to rank up just so it doesn’t go completely to waste.
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I could counter propose you do the same. What’s the point of screaming into the wind about milestones on multiple threads today?
Crashed ain't giving you an autograph bud, simply swallow your ego and accept that your singular opinion does not overshadow the facts and the experience of thousands of others.
Problem is I'm waiting for the realm, the banquet crystal drop rate ain't helping to fuel a self sustaining crystal opening mania
Other than a 7* nexus crystal, the rest I got were similar to everyone else
if you're upset that you can't spend on more SBCs, i get it, but that's how they designed the event. but we're still getting a bunch of good stuff for relatively good value.
take a step back and look at as a whole. y'all mad about the packaging and not its contents. the contents are good and they're there...
I am sitting at 29k Points and 15k units. Any more assumptions?
No 7 stars, titans, or keys. Best things I got was enough fragments to make about 1.5 T4A and I got 500 awakening shards 2 times. Nothing else from my 300 unit Valiant crystals.
but this is about hurt feelings more than anything else. the community is mad that kabam didn't "ask nicely", "come correct", or to "their liking", in a manner that would comfort their fee-fees to the maximum extend possible. and since that didn't happen we get the same clueless ignorant mob mentality that we've always gotten.
is 1000+ FUs to dave "constructive criticism"?
Even in their own thread about how bad it is, it's had 805 comments and crickets from Kabam.
the community wants blood and acts as if they've been deeply wronged on such a cosmic scale that that no amount of contrition by kabam could ever make up for it.
it's irrational online cancel culture behavior and gross and they should grow the hell up imo.
i'm not referring to you bigblue, but to others...nobody was "wronged", the event is fine, nobody is forcing you to spend, you're grown ass person with a mind of your own, now stop pretending to be a victim and get over it.
This guy spent almost $5,000
Should post all those bad pulls, sorry
The 7* shards - good ( RNG again)
T4 alpha - good
Titan shards 5k - not good
Glorious games champs/ awakening gem/ sig stones - not good or good ( depends if you really like any of them or roster is limited )
1-2 genric - bad
SBC - do I really need to?
Without actually going over the quantity of rewards lets analyse the quality for 5 Odin's worth and then decide...( Also don't compare it to cyber weekend or add the 10*10 supply drop etc. Just as a stand alone event)
i am too lazy to do the work and come up with the exact differences because nobody wants to listen, but look at it, the banquet is much better.
there's a lot more materials in the banquet milestones than these 3 items in green shown below and they both cost 15k units. banquet technically costs less than 14k...
it's not even close. banquet blows it away...
edit: and also we can't just buy the bottom tier on cyber we have to spend so it's even more expensive
You could’ve actually got 2 of the 3rd deal in tier two and 1 of the 2nd deal in tier 3.
- this would cost 13k units and for that you get …
- enough to r3 3x 7 star champs and a 7 star champ selector?!
A much better deal in my opinion?!
we had to spend 5k units just to unlock tier 2 and 15k to unlock tier 3. if you want the 2023 selector deal in tier 3 it's going to cost 20k units.
which ones would you have picked?
4th offer in t1 (7* basic, 10x sigs) x2 for 5000?
3rd offer in t2 x 2 for 8000?
still short 2000 to unlock tier 3...
so we buy the 5th offer in t1 (1-2 gem) for 2000?
that's 15k units...
plus 5000 more for the 2023 selector
so for 20000 units cyber monday would give us:
2 7* basics
1-2 gem
6 t4a
50 generics
12 t6c
12 t5c
2023 selector
2-3 gem
that's a lot less than what the banquet gives
for 13.85k units and assuming we hit all global targets the banquet gives:
6 7* basics
1 7* nexus
2x 1-2 gem
6 t4a
30 generics
14 t6c
14 t5c
3 guardians champions
7* awakening gem
7* guardians awakening gem
70 7* guardian sig stones
7* isophyne dupe
5k titan shards
a bunch of stuff from 50 SBCs...
we're paying 6k units less and getting a ton more stuff, it's not even close.
13% chance to get 7star shards but the amounts vary and can be as low as 1k.
I’m not saying I agree with those that are proclaiming we were cosmically wronged. But Kabam has been like Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown on this one with the way they obfuscated and continue to do with this event.
They may not have outright lied, but good liars can use the truth to do it, and that’s what this feels like. Nobody like to be lied too and the team did exactly that through half truths and wordplay.
I get that you think pointing at the milestones makes you seem like the rational port on a storm of irrational outrage… but I think you are under valuing the righteous anger of those that legitimately feel tricked. It seems like we don’t disagree to much on that point about the crystals being horrible. I just think you are overvaluing the milestones, while you think me and others disappointed are undervaluing them.
Sure they are ok… but this is a game… and this event is not fun because of this poorly designed crystal. And then you go back review the messaging leading up to the event and it just feels gross and the journey to get those milestones feels gross and slimey every time you open a crystal. Personally I rate this event as worse than last years
And as far as the rewards I have already gotten, I have t3a and t6b overflowing now. It’s so annoying to keep getting these when we can’t even sell them. I’m going to have to use it to rank up some champs that I have no desire to rank up just so it doesn’t go completely to waste.