Kabam Content Creator Retreat

FishSkin

Anyone in the know in terms of the what/where/when details can be revealed to us?

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Armageddøn

Huh

Bendy

Anyone in the know in terms of the what/where/when details can be revealed to us?

Stuff they learnt is nda till kabam releases the info then they can as they have a set date

FishSkin

A few content creators spent the weekend at Kabam HQ in December - but were sworn to secrecy with what was discussed.

Just curious if anyone has been in a livestream of late and heard an update as to when they can spill some beans

FishSkin

Anyone in the know in terms of the what/where/when details can be revealed to us?
Stuff they learnt is nda till kabam releases the info then they can as they have a set date

Ah ok, so the first we hear will be from Kabam.

Appreciate it!

Darkness275

I'm actually very happy there was a content creator* retreat of sorts.

My issues with it are that it was invite only, not even everyone in the CCP was permitted to join AND in-game prizes were provided to people in attendance.

Optics of these things are very basic. It's the 10 year anniversary of the game an you cancelled the public event everyone was looking forward to and instead host a private invite only event AND give away in-game prizes...

Could there not have been a public meet/open-invitation where the anniversary is celebrated, prizes are given out, maybe small things are teased and while that's going on certain creators are then taken aside and shown additional NDA sneak peak content, asked for input, etc?

FishSkin

I have no issues with it - selection process, attendee prizes… whatever

Just looking forward to the outcome of it

Normax_X

just hope we can get some info out of it soon cause the way the ones who went explained if, it seems there's a pretty good roadmap for the game, but how much can they do idk. Cause for example they were given the SBC drop rates earlier than the general public yet nothing was changed/talked about being changed even tho 90% of the ccp members r the ones who complained about the crystal, so idk how much/if any of their feedback gets taken into account

SlayerOfGods

My issues with it are that it was invite only, not even everyone in the CCP was permitted to join

Most of the CCP were not told about it, btw. We only found out after a couple of the CCP members who were going started posting about it. Kabam clearly had no plans to tell the rest of us. Honestly a super shady move from them. They didn't even apologize that we found out that way. They just kinda moved on.

JLordVileJ

My issues with it are that it was invite only, not even everyone in the CCP was permitted to join
Most of the CCP were not told about it, btw. We only found out after a couple of the CCP members who were going started posting about it. Kabam clearly had no plans to tell the rest of us. Honestly a super shady move from them. They didn't even apologize that we found out that way. They just kinda moved on.

That had no right to be so funny. Bro really said kabam is that one friend who will invite everyone out except a couple people and not event talk about it after

Average_Desi

I'm actually very happy there was a content creator* retreat of sorts.

My issues with it are that it was invite only, not even everyone in the CCP was permitted to join AND in-game prizes were provided to people in attendance.

Optics of these things are very basic. It's the 10 year anniversary of the game an you cancelled the public event everyone was looking forward to and instead host a private invite only event AND give away in-game prizes...

Could there not have been a public meet/open-invitation where the anniversary is celebrated, prizes are given out, maybe small things are teased and while that's going on certain creators are then taken aside and shown additional NDA sneak peak content, asked for input, etc?

It was a fully sponsored event right? Maybe there might have been budget or logistics concerns in having it as an open invite.

SlayerOfGods

My issues with it are that it was invite only, not even everyone in the CCP was permitted to join
Most of the CCP were not told about it, btw. We only found out after a couple of the CCP members who were going started posting about it. Kabam clearly had no plans to tell the rest of us. Honestly a super shady move from them. They didn't even apologize that we found out that way. They just kinda moved on.
That had no right to be so funny. Bro really said kabam is that one friend who will invite everyone out except a couple people and not event talk about it after

It's kinda amusing sure but they actually only invited 1/3 of the CCP. Some of which hadn't uploaded in years - while they didn't invited some of their most active and devoted members.

...and some of the people they invited weren't even CCP members or really content creators lol. No shade to anyone but that's very lame on Kabam's part.

FishSkin

My issues with it are that it was invite only, not even everyone in the CCP was permitted to join
Most of the CCP were not told about it, btw. We only found out after a couple of the CCP members who were going started posting about it. Kabam clearly had no plans to tell the rest of us. Honestly a super shady move from them. They didn't even apologize that we found out that way. They just kinda moved on.
That had no right to be so funny. Bro really said kabam is that one friend who will invite everyone out except a couple people and not event talk about it after
It's kinda amusing sure but they actually only invited 1/3 of the CCP. Some of which hadn't uploaded in years - while they didn't invited some of their most active and devoted members.

...and some of the people they invited weren't even CCP members or really content creators lol. No shade to anyone but that's very lame on Kabam's part.

It’s kinda their right to invite whoever they like - abit like when your boss decides to only take a select few to the pub on a Friday. Including that one guy that always makes the toilet stink, and barely scrapes by on targets 🤷

Sure it can make you sad. But you got to ask yourself “why does this make me sad?”

SlayerOfGods

My issues with it are that it was invite only, not even everyone in the CCP was permitted to join
Most of the CCP were not told about it, btw. We only found out after a couple of the CCP members who were going started posting about it. Kabam clearly had no plans to tell the rest of us. Honestly a super shady move from them. They didn't even apologize that we found out that way. They just kinda moved on.
That had no right to be so funny. Bro really said kabam is that one friend who will invite everyone out except a couple people and not event talk about it after
It's kinda amusing sure but they actually only invited 1/3 of the CCP. Some of which hadn't uploaded in years - while they didn't invited some of their most active and devoted members.

...and some of the people they invited weren't even CCP members or really content creators lol. No shade to anyone but that's very lame on Kabam's part.
Sure it can make you sad. But you got to ask yourself “why does this make me sad?”

This will be my last reply in this thread because the entire nuance of the situation is lost over text, but what a dumb thing to say lol. I was obviously sad because they only invited a select few people and then everyone kept it secret.

If they'd just disclosed the event and explained to all of us before we had to learn about it in that way, it would've spared a lot of hurt feelings. I was FAR from the only person who was sad over this.

I know they can invite whoever they want lmfao. That's incredibly obvious. It goes without saying. It's more about the lack of consideration. Anyways, if I discuss more about it then it will be on my platforms.

FishSkin

My issues with it are that it was invite only, not even everyone in the CCP was permitted to join
Most of the CCP were not told about it, btw. We only found out after a couple of the CCP members who were going started posting about it. Kabam clearly had no plans to tell the rest of us. Honestly a super shady move from them. They didn't even apologize that we found out that way. They just kinda moved on.
That had no right to be so funny. Bro really said kabam is that one friend who will invite everyone out except a couple people and not event talk about it after
It's kinda amusing sure but they actually only invited 1/3 of the CCP. Some of which hadn't uploaded in years - while they didn't invited some of their most active and devoted members.

...and some of the people they invited weren't even CCP members or really content creators lol. No shade to anyone but that's very lame on Kabam's part.
Sure it can make you sad. But you got to ask yourself “why does this make me sad?”
This will be my last reply in this thread because the entire nuance of the situation is lost over text, but what a dumb thing to say lol. I was obviously sad because they only invited a select few people and then everyone kept it secret.

If they'd just disclosed the event and explained to all of us before we had to learn about it in that way, it would've spared a lot of hurt feelings. I was FAR from the only person who was sad over this.

I know they can invite whoever they want lmfao. That's incredibly obvious. It goes without saying. It's more about the lack of consideration. Anyways, if I discuss more about it then it will be on my platforms.

I’m sorry it made you sad - that truly sucks.

The sore truth is they don’t owe you a heads-up, an explanation, or an apology. They put on an event for a select few, and you weren’t one of them - as much as that sucks. I hope this doesn’t eat you up too much for too long.

Skunkcabbage

My issues with it are that it was invite only, not even everyone in the CCP was permitted to join
Most of the CCP were not told about it, btw. We only found out after a couple of the CCP members who were going started posting about it. Kabam clearly had no plans to tell the rest of us. Honestly a super shady move from them. They didn't even apologize that we found out that way. They just kinda moved on.

Sounds like Kabam trolled you, that's low-key kinda hilarious as a 10 year anniversary prank 😂

Darkness275

It’s kinda their right to invite whoever they like - abit like when your boss decides to only take a select few to the pub on a Friday.

100%

But in this scenario of yours, if the boss starts handing out bonuses but only to those in attendance, it becomes an HR issue.

Not the point I or Slayer were trying to make though and I feel like you know that.

FishSkin

It’s kinda their right to invite whoever they like - abit like when your boss decides to only take a select few to the pub on a Friday.
100%

But in this scenario of yours, if the boss starts handing out bonuses but only to those in attendance, it becomes an HR issue.

Not the point I or Slayer were trying to make though and I feel like you know that.

That’s quite a wild addition to my comparison.

Are you suggesting there’s an HR equivalent here that can step in and discipline Kabam for not inviting you?

Or is it because attendees got a “gift” that you’re defining as a bonus?

I think I understand your points. You feel like Kabam owed you an explanation for not inviting you, or an apology for how it was communicated - something along those lines.

I just don’t agree with you. And it’s OK to disagree. We’re talking about subjective views on something.

Darkness275

It’s kinda their right to invite whoever they like - abit like when your boss decides to only take a select few to the pub on a Friday.
100%

But in this scenario of yours, if the boss starts handing out bonuses but only to those in attendance, it becomes an HR issue.

Not the point I or Slayer were trying to make though and I feel like you know that.
That’s quite a wild addition to my comparison.

Are you suggesting there’s an HR equivalent here that can step in and discipline Kabam for not inviting you?

Or is it because attendees got a “gift” that you’re defining as a bonus?

I think I understand your points. You feel like Kabam owed you an explanation for not inviting you, or an apology for how it was communicated - something along those lines.

I just don’t agree with you. And it’s OK to disagree. We’re talking about subjective views on something.

You are 100% correct in that it’s okay to disagree.

I’m not trying to convince you, just saying that it’s an optics bundle that very easily could have been avoided and in doing so, avoid alienating people.

I think it’s questionable to have an invite only gathering and to also give out prizes that can impact the game and people’s accounts to those in attendance.

I’d think that even if I had been invited.

I don’t think Kabam owes an apology. At least that’s not what I’m asking for, I’d never have been expected to be invited anyway, I’m not even part of the CCP.

I am disappointed that a public event was cancelled. I am disappointed that an invite only one was hosted and that it was kept super secret.

Apologise? For what. What will that do. We’ve all already heard about how they acknowledge they should communicate better and be more transparent.

Aside from grumbling about prizes being given out - but on this point I will acquiesce as one could argue it’s like the prizes given out to people who participated in a beta test.

Communication of what was being planned in advance to it happening would have smoothed over a lot of things. The position the people who were invited got placed in was just as awkward as the position of those not invited.

It all became a very hushed “if you know you know” sort of atmosphere and that just made it seem even more shady. It’s the ten year anniversary and they know the general public has been looking forward to some big summoners gathering. Another showdown, some celebration, etc…. But that was cancelled, and instead there’s an invite only function. In game prizes are given out. No communication is made.

This all from a company who consistently pushes out that communication and transparency (when possible) is something they’re actively looking at improving because they’ve acknowledged failures in the past.

Perhaps I’m wrong - that’s okay too. It just rubbed me the wrong way.

DinoHop05

My issues with it are that it was invite only, not even everyone in the CCP was permitted to join
Most of the CCP were not told about it, btw. We only found out after a couple of the CCP members who were going started posting about it. Kabam clearly had no plans to tell the rest of us. Honestly a super shady move from them. They didn't even apologize that we found out that way. They just kinda moved on.
That had no right to be so funny. Bro really said kabam is that one friend who will invite everyone out except a couple people and not event talk about it after
It's kinda amusing sure but they actually only invited 1/3 of the CCP. Some of which hadn't uploaded in years - while they didn't invited some of their most active and devoted members.

...and some of the people they invited weren't even CCP members or really content creators lol. No shade to anyone but that's very lame on Kabam's part.
Sure it can make you sad. But you got to ask yourself “why does this make me sad?”
This will be my last reply in this thread because the entire nuance of the situation is lost over text, but what a dumb thing to say lol. I was obviously sad because they only invited a select few people and then everyone kept it secret.

If they'd just disclosed the event and explained to all of us before we had to learn about it in that way, it would've spared a lot of hurt feelings. I was FAR from the only person who was sad over this.

I know they can invite whoever they want lmfao. That's incredibly obvious. It goes without saying. It's more about the lack of consideration. Anyways, if I discuss more about it then it will be on my platforms.

I'm guessing they chose people who contribute meaningfully to the community. That seems to make sense based on who was there.

BringPopcorn

Are you guys really trolling a content creator like Slayer for.not being invited to an event, when some of your existance is doubtful if it wasnt for a birth certificate?

FishSkin

It’s kinda their right to invite whoever they like - abit like when your boss decides to only take a select few to the pub on a Friday.
100%

But in this scenario of yours, if the boss starts handing out bonuses but only to those in attendance, it becomes an HR issue.

Not the point I or Slayer were trying to make though and I feel like you know that.
That’s quite a wild addition to my comparison.

Are you suggesting there’s an HR equivalent here that can step in and discipline Kabam for not inviting you?

Or is it because attendees got a “gift” that you’re defining as a bonus?

I think I understand your points. You feel like Kabam owed you an explanation for not inviting you, or an apology for how it was communicated - something along those lines.

I just don’t agree with you. And it’s OK to disagree. We’re talking about subjective views on something.
You are 100% correct in that it’s okay to disagree.

I’m not trying to convince you, just saying that it’s an optics bundle that very easily could have been avoided and in doing so, avoid alienating people.

I think it’s questionable to have an invite only gathering and to also give out prizes that can impact the game and people’s accounts to those in attendance.

I’d think that even if I had been invited.

I don’t think Kabam owes an apology. At least that’s not what I’m asking for, I’d never have been expected to be invited anyway, I’m not even part of the CCP.

I am disappointed that a public event was cancelled. I am disappointed that an invite only one was hosted and that it was kept super secret.

Apologise? For what. What will that do. We’ve all already heard about how they acknowledge they should communicate better and be more transparent.

Aside from grumbling about prizes being given out - but on this point I will acquiesce as one could argue it’s like the prizes given out to people who participated in a beta test.

Communication of what was being planned in advance to it happening would have smoothed over a lot of things. The position the people who were invited got placed in was just as awkward as the position of those not invited.

It all became a very hushed “if you know you know” sort of atmosphere and that just made it seem even more shady. It’s the ten year anniversary and they know the general public has been looking forward to some big summoners gathering. Another showdown, some celebration, etc…. But that was cancelled, and instead there’s an invite only function. In game prizes are given out. No communication is made.

This all from a company who consistently pushes out that communication and transparency (when possible) is something they’re actively looking at improving because they’ve acknowledged failures in the past.

Perhaps I’m wrong - that’s okay too. It just rubbed me the wrong way.

Maybe I just can’t relate because I’m a Brit and we don’t get events and gatherings anyway lol

FishSkin

Are you guys really trolling a content creator like Slayer for.not being invited to an event, when some of your existance is doubtful if it wasnt for a birth certificate?

Trolling?

I just don’t agree with him. That’s all. Not going to change my view and pander because he has a YouTube channel.

And you say “a content creator like Slayer” - I’ve never heard of him. But having had a wee look - no face to the YouTube channel, and predominantly CGR based content.

Granted, a very brief look. So I may well be way off - but he certainly isn’t as big a content creator for me as he is for you.

JLordVileJ

It’s kinda their right to invite whoever they like - abit like when your boss decides to only take a select few to the pub on a Friday.
100%

But in this scenario of yours, if the boss starts handing out bonuses but only to those in attendance, it becomes an HR issue.

Not the point I or Slayer were trying to make though and I feel like you know that.
That’s quite a wild addition to my comparison.

Are you suggesting there’s an HR equivalent here that can step in and discipline Kabam for not inviting you?

Or is it because attendees got a “gift” that you’re defining as a bonus?

I think I understand your points. You feel like Kabam owed you an explanation for not inviting you, or an apology for how it was communicated - something along those lines.

I just don’t agree with you. And it’s OK to disagree. We’re talking about subjective views on something.
You are 100% correct in that it’s okay to disagree.

I’m not trying to convince you, just saying that it’s an optics bundle that very easily could have been avoided and in doing so, avoid alienating people.

I think it’s questionable to have an invite only gathering and to also give out prizes that can impact the game and people’s accounts to those in attendance.

I’d think that even if I had been invited.

I don’t think Kabam owes an apology. At least that’s not what I’m asking for, I’d never have been expected to be invited anyway, I’m not even part of the CCP.

I am disappointed that a public event was cancelled. I am disappointed that an invite only one was hosted and that it was kept super secret.

Apologise? For what. What will that do. We’ve all already heard about how they acknowledge they should communicate better and be more transparent.

Aside from grumbling about prizes being given out - but on this point I will acquiesce as one could argue it’s like the prizes given out to people who participated in a beta test.

Communication of what was being planned in advance to it happening would have smoothed over a lot of things. The position the people who were invited got placed in was just as awkward as the position of those not invited.

It all became a very hushed “if you know you know” sort of atmosphere and that just made it seem even more shady. It’s the ten year anniversary and they know the general public has been looking forward to some big summoners gathering. Another showdown, some celebration, etc…. But that was cancelled, and instead there’s an invite only function. In game prizes are given out. No communication is made.

This all from a company who consistently pushes out that communication and transparency (when possible) is something they’re actively looking at improving because they’ve acknowledged failures in the past.

Perhaps I’m wrong - that’s okay too. It just rubbed me the wrong way.
Maybe I just can’t relate because I’m a Brit and we don’t get events and gatherings anyway lol

I'm a Brit and I can relate lol

BringPopcorn

Are you guys really trolling a content creator like Slayer for.not being invited to an event, when some of your existance is doubtful if it wasnt for a birth certificate?
Trolling?

I just don’t agree with him. That’s all. Not going to change my view and pander because he has a YouTube channel.

And you say “a content creator like Slayer” - I’ve never heard of him. But having had a wee look - no face to the YouTube channel, and predominantly CGR based content.

Granted, a very brief look. So I may well be way off - but he certainly isn’t as big a content creator for me as he is for you.

I didn't name anyone in particular or quoted, if you felt I was talking about you, there might be a reason..

Toproller89

I'm hoping I get invited to the next one, when they approve my request to be in CCP

JLordVileJ

Are you guys really trolling a content creator like Slayer for.not being invited to an event, when some of your existance is doubtful if it wasnt for a birth certificate?
.
Granted, a very brief look. So I may well be way off - but he certainly isn’t as big a content creator for me as he is for you.

Not fully sure if I understand what you are saying because of the phrasing. If you are saying he doesn't seem like a big content creator, he is one of the biggest for mcoc. If you are saying for you he's not a big one then sure fair enough

FishSkin

Are you guys really trolling a content creator like Slayer for.not being invited to an event, when some of your existance is doubtful if it wasnt for a birth certificate?
Trolling?

I just don’t agree with him. That’s all. Not going to change my view and pander because he has a YouTube channel.

And you say “a content creator like Slayer” - I’ve never heard of him. But having had a wee look - no face to the YouTube channel, and predominantly CGR based content.

Granted, a very brief look. So I may well be way off - but he certainly isn’t as big a content creator for me as he is for you.
I didn't name anyone in particular or quoted, if you felt I was talking about you, there might be a reason..

The reason was the “you guys” part of your comment. All good 👍🏻

BringPopcorn

Are you guys really trolling a content creator like Slayer for.not being invited to an event, when some of your existance is doubtful if it wasnt for a birth certificate?
Trolling?

I just don’t agree with him. That’s all. Not going to change my view and pander because he has a YouTube channel.

And you say “a content creator like Slayer” - I’ve never heard of him. But having had a wee look - no face to the YouTube channel, and predominantly CGR based content.

Granted, a very brief look. So I may well be way off - but he certainly isn’t as big a content creator for me as he is for you.
I didn't name anyone in particular or quoted, if you felt I was talking about you, there might be a reason..
The reason was the “you guys” part of your comment. All good 👍🏻

That's like saying someone called you Cinderella cause you wear the same size of shoes...

FishSkin

Are you guys really trolling a content creator like Slayer for.not being invited to an event, when some of your existance is doubtful if it wasnt for a birth certificate?
.
Granted, a very brief look. So I may well be way off - but he certainly isn’t as big a content creator for me as he is for you.
Not fully sure if I understand what you are saying because of the phrasing. If you are saying he doesn't seem like a big content creator, he is one of the biggest for mcoc. If you are saying for you he's not a big one then sure fair enough

Yup, exactly that - for me, not a big name in the content creator space.

FishSkin

Are you guys really trolling a content creator like Slayer for.not being invited to an event, when some of your existance is doubtful if it wasnt for a birth certificate?
Trolling?

I just don’t agree with him. That’s all. Not going to change my view and pander because he has a YouTube channel.

And you say “a content creator like Slayer” - I’ve never heard of him. But having had a wee look - no face to the YouTube channel, and predominantly CGR based content.

Granted, a very brief look. So I may well be way off - but he certainly isn’t as big a content creator for me as he is for you.
I didn't name anyone in particular or quoted, if you felt I was talking about you, there might be a reason..
The reason was the “you guys” part of your comment. All good 👍🏻
That's like saying someone called you Cinderella cause you wear the same size of shoes...

That’s a big “nope” from me lol