This is the most perplexing "update" ever. It's like every final decision maker at Kabam is unfamiliar with the game, and are out of touch with the community. What was the real objective here?
One thing (out of the many) that I don't understand is the shard trade-in cost increase. Really? This is an UPdate alright. The cost went UP 😂
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And for those of us who are no longer investing in 6*'s, will there ever be an OPTION to trade or sell excess 6* AG's and lower star AG's? Maybe for a small amount of 7* AG fragments, or sig stones? Something towards 7*'s for the 6*AG's, and 6* resources for the 5* AG's. They're still awarded in the game, but are not needed as much as they used to be for some of us.
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Random math moment: It looks like the time frame to acquire a free-ish Titan is based off of the difference in the amount of shards it takes to fully form both? This is the first thought that came to mind since the Titan (7* Featured) is of higher value than the 7* basic, so it would take longer to get from the sigil.
Here's a breakdown of my math salad wild guess lol. Again, this is just a wild guess..nothing factual.
15,000 7* shards to form a 7* crystal. 20,000 TTN shards to form a TTN cystal. Difference is 5,000 shards. 5,000 = 1/3 of 15,000 (7* shards). 1/3 of a year = 4 months. 4 months + 6 months (time to acquire a Sigil 7*)= 10 months.
This is like a slap in the face for people who’ve been subscribed for years waiting for an update on the store. The trade in values make no sense. Currently we’re able to trade in 15,000 5 star shards a week for 4,500 6 star shards. That means a 6 star costs 31,000 5 star shards. Granted, we do have to wait 3 weeks to trade in that many 5 star shards, but the point still stands that you’ve made it 19,000 shard more expensive.
Currently for paragon and above we can trade in 15000 5* shards a week for 5500 6* shards. (400 * 10 + 300 * 5). That means a 6* costs less than 27000 5* shards. It's now 23000 shards expensive. And with the new changes we can only get one 6* per month for 50000 5 star shards whereas we used to get almost 2 6 star crystal per month with the current sigil store.
Basically we'd get 22000 6* shards per month (5500 * 4 weeks) for 60000 5* shards and the new sigil gives only 1 full 6 star crystal for 50000 5* shards!
Seems like sigil is for players who pay, I'm FTP, i was thinking to buy it but extra boost to storage and other resources won't help me much because most of the time I'm out of resources
I just purchased the 30 day Sigil a few days ago and am not happy to see this. While I understand there will be some level of compensation for units and sigil, it isn't adding up. Plus, I won't get the shards and potions and ISO, etc...
I've been playing for 10 years. I've heard that refunds through Google Play can result in a ban, and that would be ridiculous considering the circumstances. So who do I contact for a refund?
I just purchased the 30 day Sigil a few days ago and am not happy to see this. While I understand there will be some level of compensation for units and sigil, it isn't adding up. Plus, I won't get the shards and potions and ISO, etc...
I've been playing for 10 years. I've heard that refunds through Google Play can result in a ban, and that would be ridiculous considering the circumstances. So who do I contact for a refund?
Such a shame this is a DOA update. After the stream hype, I was really looking forward to rejoining the Sigil but this is horribly disappointing.
Most of the Black Iso Market trade-in values and Sigil Store prices are comically bad, and I noticed the featured 6* crystal trade-in has been removed, which was really valuable for progressing players. Effectively, the BIM (which was already pretty bad) will become totally irrelevant to the majority of players.
I don't understand why the rewards have been split between weekly and monthly bundles? Apart from the potions, most of the items in the weekly bundle do not have caps which would mean weekly drops are better. I can understand wanting to create that weekly dopamine hit, but this claiming this bundle would just remind me how disappointing the subscription value is! It doesn't even appear to arrive automatically, so I've got to go and claim it?
Hopefully Kabam think a bit deeper about this - not sure how they expected it to land but from the player's perspective it looks like it's been designed by the work experience kid.
I pay sigil every month from the beginning, but i will stop now, this is not worth it anymore. I just both in sigil store after long time 7 star scarlet and i will not safe a year for something good in store, trade 6* for 7* shards is stupidity, i need iso from these 6* and from dupes is 7*shardes and gold too. Not worth it anymore. But this is just my opinion. For somebody will this offer good for sure.
It’s like Kabam decided this in July and waited until January to release something already outdated.
The trade-in store is atrocious, way too expensive to trade stuff. The store itself is awful because everyone wants the titan crystal yet saying it’s overpriced is an understatement.
Completely out of touch with veteran players. Seeing it as a cheap way to get units and gold is all it is, and it’s enough to get me to subscribe, so job done I suppose!
Once again paragon and valiant are grouped together.... Except if you want to trade in 20 t3a to a t4a, which will be exciting for the top 100 of the banquet realm leaderboard.
The new sigil store looks pretty bad. We can't trade with gold anymore.. we can't sigil potions without using our sigil credits.. thats not good at all. the trading value for most of the items has increased also. I'll rather keep the outdated store at this point. This is pretty bad. The 10th year haven't been great at all. Starting from the banquet crystals now the sigil store. What's next.
Is it me or does this not look like more of the same just that everything has been shifted around? Also the trade-in store isn't looking great based on how much it takes to get a crystal..which was the problem with the current store also, taking months upon months to earn a 7*. Was much better when I decided when I wanted the sigil and when I didnt vs being locked in to something that is barely any better, but now becomes a monthly expense.
Hopefully there is still an option to just pay for whenever you want a month like all the other normal subscription services in existence.
Maybe if valiant progression title meant more in places like this Kabam wouldn’t have to keep structuring things in a way that lets lower progression “catch up” because people would actually push content again.
This was a problem many of us saw coming back when TB was first announced… there’s a real issue with the way progression is structured right now and it’s really been highlighted by the Banquet, Realm Events, and now this new and “improved” Sigil.
Is it April 1st already because this is horrible joke. Please redo the whole thing or reduced prices on all things in store with reduced cost and cool down based on rank
devil’s advocate; the 1:1replacement ratio on Super Sigil credits may not be as bad as it appears at first blush.
I believe I got about 170 regular, and 140 super tokens? and currently the ONLY thing you can do with those is buy Cash Witch.
when this goes live, (if I keep the sigil under the ‘new and improved’ format) I’m at about 310 out of 400, if I just wanted to dupe Cash Witch and drop the service. the conversion of that purchase to a standard currency, and the price drop, actually puts her as more attainable? OR I could spend those out on something else, not being locked in to one item specifically.
also of note, the mechanism to convert sig stones up may actually be useful to some, especially Valliants getting to filter 6* sigs to 7.
NOT arguing the update isn’t underwhelming. all y’all who are offended ain’t wrong; the crystal trade in ratio is insulting; as is the lack of more consideration for Valiants, and a huge missed opportunity to use this for a different chase champ instead of/ in addition to Cash Witch. this really can’t be put in the W column for Kabam as it is right now.
not sure if I will maintain my sigil, but more info helps.
Apologies if this was asked before, but is any consideration being given to run a special Sigil arena again, as was done some time ago when a special arena was run that gave a chance to obtain a free 1-month subscription?
I got a question about the sigil update. Will it Increase the invatory for Tier 4 alpha catalyst? Because I got 4 in my overstock and no way to use the,m at this moment.
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It's like every final decision maker at Kabam is unfamiliar with the game, and are out of touch with the community. What was the real objective here?
One thing (out of the many) that I don't understand is the shard trade-in cost increase. Really? This is an UPdate alright. The cost went UP 😂
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
And for those of us who are no longer investing in 6*'s, will there ever be an OPTION to trade or sell excess 6* AG's and lower star AG's? Maybe for a small amount of 7* AG fragments, or sig stones? Something towards 7*'s for the 6*AG's, and 6* resources for the 5* AG's. They're still awarded in the game, but are not needed as much as they used to be for some of us.
😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩😩
Random math moment: It looks like the time frame to acquire a free-ish Titan is based off of the difference in the amount of shards it takes to fully form both? This is the first thought that came to mind since the Titan (7* Featured) is of higher value than the 7* basic, so it would take longer to get from the sigil.
Here's a breakdown of my math salad wild guess lol. Again, this is just a wild guess..nothing factual.
15,000 7* shards to form a 7* crystal.
20,000 TTN shards to form a TTN cystal.
Difference is 5,000 shards.
5,000 = 1/3 of 15,000 (7* shards).
1/3 of a year = 4 months.
4 months + 6 months (time to acquire a Sigil 7*)= 10 months.
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Basically we'd get 22000 6* shards per month (5500 * 4 weeks) for 60000 5* shards and the new sigil gives only 1 full 6 star crystal for 50000 5* shards!
I've been playing for 10 years. I've heard that refunds through Google Play can result in a ban, and that would be ridiculous considering the circumstances. So who do I contact for a refund?
Most of the Black Iso Market trade-in values and Sigil Store prices are comically bad, and I noticed the featured 6* crystal trade-in has been removed, which was really valuable for progressing players. Effectively, the BIM (which was already pretty bad) will become totally irrelevant to the majority of players.
I don't understand why the rewards have been split between weekly and monthly bundles? Apart from the potions, most of the items in the weekly bundle do not have caps which would mean weekly drops are better. I can understand wanting to create that weekly dopamine hit, but this claiming this bundle would just remind me how disappointing the subscription value is! It doesn't even appear to arrive automatically, so I've got to go and claim it?
Hopefully Kabam think a bit deeper about this - not sure how they expected it to land but from the player's perspective it looks like it's been designed by the work experience kid.
The trade-in store is atrocious, way too expensive to trade stuff. The store itself is awful because everyone wants the titan crystal yet saying it’s overpriced is an understatement.
Completely out of touch with veteran players. Seeing it as a cheap way to get units and gold is all it is, and it’s enough to get me to subscribe, so job done I suppose!
Hopefully there is still an option to just pay for whenever you want a month like all the other normal subscription services in existence.
-kabam probably
This was a problem many of us saw coming back when TB was first announced… there’s a real issue with the way progression is structured right now and it’s really been highlighted by the Banquet, Realm Events, and now this new and “improved” Sigil.
I believe I got about 170 regular, and 140 super tokens? and currently the ONLY thing you can do with those is buy Cash Witch.
when this goes live, (if I keep the sigil under the ‘new and improved’ format) I’m at about 310 out of 400, if I just wanted to dupe Cash Witch and drop the service. the conversion of that purchase to a standard currency, and the price drop, actually puts her as more attainable? OR I could spend those out on something else, not being locked in to one item specifically.
also of note, the mechanism to convert sig stones up may actually be useful to some, especially Valliants getting to filter 6* sigs to 7.
NOT arguing the update isn’t underwhelming. all y’all who are offended ain’t wrong; the crystal trade in ratio is insulting; as is the lack of more consideration for Valiants, and a huge missed opportunity to use this for a different chase champ instead of/ in addition to Cash Witch. this really can’t be put in the W column for Kabam as it is right now.
not sure if I will maintain my sigil, but more info helps.
But I have literally no other response than...
Holy wow, you guys suck.
...I will continue to not think about the Summoner's Sigil.